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Gorilla Glue #4

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Hammerhead

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Duuuuuude!!!!! u should stick to ur rules.... Bringing in infected cuts without bein heavily armed is very dangerous.... Pm doesnt have to be visible to be present.... Fuk around with your organic food safe methods... They work till the stop working n ur issue that yoyr tryin to prevent comes full speed n ur like fuk.... For new cut nukem!!!! 3x if known to come with stuff.. Veggem take cuts start ur own clean healthy mom disregard trash i original plant....
If ur gonna be takin in cuts from sources eagle 20 is a must have in the quarantine area... Use it or not... Better be safe n just have it

If u feel the need to use that poison that's your decision to do so mime is different then yours. I would never use that. I would toss the cuts before I use that. Your insinuating I knew they had PM. I did not. If I had known I would have passed. I will def try my method before I use anything that not food safe. I know all about PM. its everywhere doesn't even need to show. You have PM spores in your room we all do. I'm not a newbie I know WTF im doing here guys.
 

MIMedHead

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If u feel the need to use that poison that's your decision to do so mime is different then yours. I would never use that. I would toss the cuts before I use that. Your insinuating I knew they had PM. I did not. If I had known I would have passed. I will def try my method before I use anything that not food safe. I know all about PM. its everywhere doesn't even need to show. You have PM spores in your room we all do. I'm not a newbie I know WTF im doing here guys.

Wait hold on............................ I thought you had no idea how to grow cannabis. I thought you were a first time rookie..................
 

Grizz

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all the honor goes you my friend, well done. same with sureshot66, you two should be very proud, I know I am.
 

milkyjoe

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I'm not gonna spray my cuts with nutrients if u want to do that fine. I will do what I want to do. There are many many different products to treat PM that are not systemic. Most are not safe to use on food crops. Using p35 is fine to use to pre treat cuts. Its not the same as spraying cuts with nuts witch will kill the cuts.. If the CU in nutrients killed off PM I would not be seeing any on these new cuts. There is a specific reason I'm using P35. Its not to add more CU even though it might but I doubt there would be any increased levels from the amount I will be using. It might get used 2x while in veg on new incoming cuts.. But I could use it at any stage of growth if I see PM. To think I would use it in amounts that would cause a toxic level of CU boggles my mind. Sure there are some stupid people I'm not 1 of them. In none of my post did I ever say I was applying it to large plants. I could if I wanted to it would not cause any issue in the amount I will be using..

Dude...you are spraying your crop with a nutrient. Cu and sulfate are both nutrients. Why is that hard to grasp...nutrients are the root cause of all disease
 

Hammerhead

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Dude let it go man. Sure P35 has Cu in it I never disagreed with you. You think p35 is the same as spraying a food based Nutrient that will have the same effect to kill off PM I don't agree.. Its not intended to be used to feed your plants. Just because something has a metal in it doesn't make it a Nutrient for plants to use as food. Its also used as a Bactericide. I do not agree with your interpretation that p35 is the same as using PBP to feed my plants with. Time to just agree to disagree and move on.
 

thewhitelotus

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Sup duuuuuuuuudes and dudettes! Bout to glove up and bring down the rest of the Glue...been slacking. I mean everyone takes about 7 days to bring down 4 plants right?!?! :biggrin:

I havent even dove into the mixed tray yet.....le sigh.

Have i mentioned I HATE trimming?!? At least theres football on and I just noticed them mountains are blue as hell on my frosty CL Smooths! Its party time friends
 

lil~greensprout

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All this Drama... seems I'm going too need a second Joint this evening !
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Ok I'm ready, continue on...
Sprout. :smoker:
 

milkyjoe

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Dude let it go man. Sure P35 has Cu in it I never disagreed with you. You think p35 is the same as spraying a food based Nutrient that will have the same effect to kill off PM I don't agree.. Its not intended to be used to feed your plants. Just because something has a metal in it doesn't make it a Nutrient for plants to use as food. Its also used as a Bactericide. I do not agree with your interpretation that p35 is the same as using PBP to feed my plants with. Time to just agree to disagree and move on.

Riddle me this PF...if you had enough Cu in your nutes to start with would pf 35 do anything for you?
 

Hammerhead

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Riddle me this PF...if you had enough Cu in your nutes to start with would pf 35 do anything for you?


You win dude what ever you say is right. To answer you question P35 has nothing in common with the food I feed my plants other than it has Cu in it. P35 is used as a fungicide/Bactericide not food. Last time I will respond to this stupid banter. My work speaks for itself.
 

who dat is

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I'll never know why people HAVE to be right. Just call it a difference of opinion like PF said.....

and remember that I can pee the farthest out of anybody in here.
 

MrTea

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Dude let it go man. Sure P35 has Cu in it I never disagreed with you. You think p35 is the same as spraying a food based Nutrient that will have the same effect to kill off PM I don't agree.. Its not intended to be used to feed your plants. Just because something has a metal in it doesn't make it a Nutrient for plants to use as food. Its also used as a Bactericide. I do not agree with your interpretation that p35 is the same as using PBP to feed my plants with. Time to just agree to disagree and move on.


Kind of like Neem meal. Vs Neem oil. Aerating Neem and spraying it isnt going to have the same effect as spraying the oil
 

MrTea

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Here's some leafs glue threw that I thot were cool
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And here's some nuggets
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If that is indeed a Variegation...TAKE A CUT OF IT. I see more variegAted leaves on some lowers. . The trait carries into cuttings. You could be the first one to run a variegated GG4.It won't produce as well but it would be a beautiful end result.

Makes me wonder if you have the real deal or not although as everyone always says...so many s1's who knows anymore.
 

Loc Dog

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FYI regarding Chitosan Oligosaccharide -

Both chitin and chitosan have demonstrated antiviral, antibacterial, and antifungal properties, and have been explored for many agricultural uses. They have been utilized to control disease or reduce their spread, to chelate nutrient and minerals, preventing pathogens from accessing them, or to enhance plant innate defenses.

When used to enhance plant defenses, chitin and chitosan induce host defense responses in both monocotyledons and dicotyledons. These responses include lignification [1], ion flux variations, cytoplasmic acidification, membrane depolarization and protein phosphorylation [2–5], chitinase and glucanase activation [6,7], phytoalexin biosynthesis [8,9], generation of reactive oxygen species [10], biosynthesis of jasmonic acid [11], and the expression of unique early responsive and defense-related genes [12–14]. In addition, chitosan was reported to induce callose formation [15,16], proteinase inhibitors [17], and phytoalexin biosynthesis [18] in many dicot species. The response to chitin, chitosan, and derived oligosaccharides varies with their acetylation degree. This review summarizes some of the uses of these natural products in agriculture and gives an overview of the mechanisms involved.

Here is the full article from 5 years ago -

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2866471/

Regarding it being poison, here is the MSDS -

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/MSDS/MSDS/DisplayMSDSPage.do?country=US&language=en&productNumber=523682&brand=ALDRICH&PageToGoToURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sigmaaldrich.com%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct%2Faldrich%2F523682%3Flang%3Den

Phyton 35 MSDS -

http://phytoncorp.com/wp-content/uploads/Phyton-35-GHS-SDS-6-15.pdf
 
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