Gorilla Glue #4...

[Treetroit City]

Reading the numbers everyone is hitting
I average 2+ oz per gal of medium using coco. For example my last run, totally not dialed no nets handwatered way to hot everything against me aside from me lol I hit 4.5-5 oz off of every 2 gal plant I had even the sour dub gave me over 5 oz from 2 gal. I'm thinking many of u could leave in smaller pots for longer periods, especially the coco guys. Seems like a lot of dirt slangin at transplant time but then again it's been a min since I hit the dirt I may have forgot how shit works lol
I do know that making sure they are more rooted to the final pot will kill plenty of stretch and nodes are tighter with excess veg food first few weeks of bloom, with any strain I've ran, and that usually adds up to smaller containers with shorter and heavier plants.
After several runs with smart pots I've concluded they work no better for improved yield and I use more nutes n water cuz they dry fast. More expense and more expense. My plastic pots stand up better n I can drench the top n not have water spew out the sides n droppers can drown the top same way no leaking.
Anyway goin on a tangent my point was maybe a couple of u guys can try a smaller pot n let it establish just past what u think is right and flip see if u use less supplies n get more. Worth a shot on a light 1x
I read many time this out yields the dub majorly but not with what I see posted compared to my dub haul. I easily get 1.5 a bulb with dub og gsc any of those "lightweights" using small containers but granted its coco. But handwater 1x a day
What do u guys think?

I personally think you are making a whole lot of sense.

I have airpots and they are a pain in the ass to hand water without shit seeping all out the sides.

I'll be doing some side by side with reg hard black plastic pots soon.

 

[Hammerhead]

I have some of the knock off air pots. there Nursery pots with slits cut into the side of the pots..I have to water these 2-3x more often than normal pots.

 

[Grizz]

Sir if your getting 4 oz per on sour dub your doing something right , same with the gsc, your kicking ass, if I dident know you personaly I would call bull shit. but I do and believe you,

 

[unclefishstick]

i probably forgot to mention it but there is a gorilla glue picture only thread in the flower pic sub forum now.

 

[Danksmith]

thats all i needed to hear from you guys bout the pots.... ive had these two gal plastic pots that are just so convienient and easy to work with... i like the smart pots but like u said in flower were not seeing any huge advantage to the air pots drying out quicker...

i suppose the question for me becomes do the air pots lose thier moisture cause of the airyness(obv).... or could the extra o2 make the plant uptake the feed quicker and at higher rates? its prob both but does a plant uptake quicker with air pots?

im thinking of 4 glue vegged out in 2 gals under a 600, would do much much more but considering space and other gear will have to do

 

[Jbomber79]

I would think coco in smart pots would = constant watering

 

[unclefishstick]

thats all i needed to hear from you guys bout the pots.... ive had these two gal plastic pots that are just so convienient and easy to work with... i like the smart pots but like u said in flower were not seeing any huge advantage to the air pots drying out quicker...

i suppose the question for me becomes do the air pots lose thier moisture cause of the airyness(obv).... or could the extra o2 make the plant uptake the feed quicker and at higher rates? its prob both but does a plant uptake quicker with air pots?

possibly....gardening is all about finding the balance point for your particular space and style but all things being equal i do think air pots and smart pots offer some advantages in many garden situations.but like any tool they need to be used correctly,theres no such thing as a product that will automatically improve your garden performance no matter how much it cost or what it says on the bottle,no one way of doing things is inherently better.

 

[SirSmokalot]

Exactly unc
Smarts are great for flood n drain n large outdoor trees IMO
More of a Waste otherwise

Just sharing my experience with pots and pot size vs yield. Thinking mucho medium could be saved without sacrificing yield with a few tweaks in the approach and to the thought.

Yeah JW I got no one to impress so my numbers are legit. And there is room for improvement still. Yes 5oz dub girl in 2 gal coco topped one time n not net or bamboo. Just a beast
And another 7.5 off of 4 3/4 gal girls on edge row. She puts out for me man

 

[Dr. Purpur]

Smart-pot, One Hunnud gallon

Waiting for it to cool down back there, then we will start mixing sunshine Advanced with Worm Castings, bone meal, blood meal, Dr. Earth Life, and Kelp. Maybe some organic chickety doo doo too.

So How many ounces should aim for with Gorilla Glue?

 

[Dr. Purpur]

Humboldt House Mix Everclear Shatter Glass

Humboldt House Mix Everclear Shatter Glass

Mix of Sour Diesel, Headband, OG Kush and possibly a tiny bit of GDP.

 

[dansbuds]

Reading the numbers everyone is hitting
I average 2+ oz per gal of medium using coco. For example my last run, totally not dialed no nets handwatered way to hot everything against me aside from me lol I hit 4.5-5 oz off of every 2 gal plant I had even the sour dub gave me over 5 oz from 2 gal. I'm thinking many of u could leave in smaller pots for longer periods, especially the coco guys. Seems like a lot of dirt slangin at transplant time but then again it's been a min since I hit the dirt I may have forgot how shit works lol
I do know that making sure they are more rooted to the final pot will kill plenty of stretch and nodes are tighter with excess veg food first few weeks of bloom, with any strain I've ran, and that usually adds up to smaller containers with shorter and heavier plants.
After several runs with smart pots I've concluded they work no better for improved yield and I use more nutes n water cuz they dry fast. More expense and more expense. My plastic pots stand up better n I can drench the top n not have water spew out the sides n droppers can drown the top same way no leaking.
Anyway goin on a tangent my point was maybe a couple of u guys can try a smaller pot n let it establish just past what u think is right and flip see if u use less supplies n get more. Worth a shot on a light 1x
I read many time this out yields the dub majorly but not with what I see posted compared to my dub haul. I easily get 1.5 a bulb with dub og gsc any of those "lightweights" using small containers but granted its coco. But handwater 1x a day
What do u guys think?

I think your right on the money !!! the biggest pot i use is the 3 gallon smartie . but mostly 2 gallon plastic buckets & an occasional 2 gallon hempy bucket . i easily get 2 z's per gallon & alot of times 3 z's per gallon of coco .

My rooted clones go into 5" squares to veg for a couple weeks then into the final pot . my hempys .... the clone goes right into the 2 gallon pot as soon as its rooted .




This pic is those same clones 25 days later ....



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[Phillthy]

the smaller pots could work well but in a water only soil mix the only real way to achieve more ounces per plant is to increase pot size. an oz per gallon is good rule of thumb.

 

[Hammerhead]

If you veg your plants small then small pots will be fine. I veg big this requires a big pot. I dont want to get root bound. The plants I veg 70+days get very close to rootbound when harvested. The rootball is so hard it doent look like theres any soil left when I break it apart...

 

[Dr. Purpur]

the smaller pots could work well but in a water only soil mix the only real way to achieve more ounces per plant is to increase pot size. an oz per gallon is good rule of thumb.

Oh Good! Thanks Phill

 

[Hammerhead]

I go from 16oz cups to 1g pots. they stay in the 1g pot for a while. I would say 12' tall before another up pot. Then into the flowering pot 3-8g pots. Here is one of the knock off air pots 5g. the large plant is BKGK the smaller of the 2 is the GSC X Querkle. Its in the largest pot I have 8g.... Im going to flower her early to see what she is like..


I forgot to add this room is 100f right now. This room is attached to my house but its outside called a screen room. I have the walls covered in panda. The roof is metal with a drop ceiling installed.

 

[SirSmokalot]

That is great growth for 25 days Dan
Bitchin

Phil totally for you water only cats I get it. U need enough food to be present the entire cycle. Peeps in soil who feed also can manage with smaller pots easily. And yes that is a perfect expectation in soil 1-1.5 per gal is what I hit regularly amended or bottle fed didn't matter

Having excessive roots doesn't equal root bound though and in any case if they are staying wet n well fed does it really matter. I have let my soil plants do what many consider over establish their çontainer and as long as I wasn't relying on food in the container to last the duration of the grow and was adding it in as needed I experîenced no lag in growth from becoming root bound, which I think the term is overused to begin with. I guess I choose to look at it as well established.
I need to see a straight coco yield posted cuz if u guys crush the dub with the glue in dirt I'm liking it more n more I better hit 2+ per bulb with a gg4 mono or ill kill myself lol

I rareły mono crop myself I hit 1.5 + per 1k running ten -20 varieties at a time every time but like a few types per light and occasionally I manage to fill up a light with one thing love that!

But hammer that shit looks like some straight flame, Phil yo shit is always pretty, and unc I haven't seen finer bud porn in ages, those glue tops look just like my dubs. Exactly.
Perfection fellas.
Mad props
M moms got a few cuts rockin time to slay the beast and get my glue on too ya feel me!

 

[Hammerhead]

everything has been getting feed 2x a day from this heat wave. One is full strength feed the other is just to keep her whistle wet. I've seen many newbies have allot of issues from over watering.. those that dont know any better should be careful on watering too much. I dont like my soil to be wet 24/7. I let it dry for the roots to spread out looking for moisture/food..

 

[Grizz]

I know it goes against every coco rule but I do my coco the same way hammer

 

[unclefishstick]

especially since the first rule of coco club is dont talk about coco club...

stuck 6 glue cuts today,not much longer till big mama glue can go into flower,thats going to be fun to watch...especially with a 10 gallon and 5 gallon along side,i think just those 3 plants will fill an 8x4 area...especially with some cookie plants to fill in the gaps...

 

[Grizz]

your really going to have to kill it this time unc to beat what you did last run,