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Gorilla Glue #4 - Part II

Cannavore

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The only issue with Mammoth P is its 97% water. Ur paying allot for 3% of microbials..

Actually it's 1% Microbes, 2% Alfalfa extract, and 97% h20.

and not to be an alarmist but some of the strains of microbes within Mammoth P can affect human beings. (Citrobacter freundii, Comamonas testosteroni).


you could make your own microbes for way cheaper and better than a bottled product.
 

~star~crash~

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Actually it's 1% Microbes, 2% Alfalfa extract, and 97% h20.

and not to be an alarmist but some of the strains of microbes within Mammoth P can affect human beings. (Citrobacter freundii, Comamonas testosteroni).


you could make your own microbes for way cheaper and better than a bottled product.

what do you know? share some knowledge for the sake of conversation :) peace
 

Cannavore

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i know that i know nothing lol that's about it...... all im trying to say is it can't be a good sign when you google the ingredients and find scientific studies showing possible links with these strains of bacteria with appendicitis and meningitis... correct me if i'm wrong here, cause all i did was google this stuff 20 seconds ago lol.







"Citrobacter freundii is a member of the family Enterobacteriaceae and is often the cause of significant opportunistic infections. C. freundiihas also been associated with neonatal meningitis and brain abscess (14). The mortality and morbidity rate ofCitrobacter meningitis is unacceptably high. The fatality rate associated with neonatal meningitis is 25 to 50%; moreover, serious neurological sequelae result in 75% of survivors. Although the implication Citrobacter spp. in neonatal meningitis and brain abscess is clear, the mechanisms by which these organisms cause disease have been poorly investigated."

https://iai.asm.org/content/67/8/4208.full
 

shishkaboy

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Got a free sample of this not too long ago and now Im using this stuff. They told me to foliar feed with it but I just use it in the root zone. Still collecting data...
 

Grizz

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knowing that you know nothing makes you smarter than most, I know that :biggrin:

i know that i know nothing lol that's about it...... all im trying to say is it can't be a good sign when you google the ingredients and find scientific studies showing possible links with these strains of bacteria with appendicitis and meningitis... correct me if i'm wrong here, cause all i did was google this stuff 20 seconds ago lol.







"Citrobacter freundii is a member of the family Enterobacteriaceae and is often the cause of significant opportunistic infections. C. freundiihas also been associated with neonatal meningitis and brain abscess (14). The mortality and morbidity rate ofCitrobacter meningitis is unacceptably high. The fatality rate associated with neonatal meningitis is 25 to 50%; moreover, serious neurological sequelae result in 75% of survivors. Although the implication Citrobacter spp. in neonatal meningitis and brain abscess is clear, the mechanisms by which these organisms cause disease have been poorly investigated."

https://iai.asm.org/content/67/8/4208.full
 

Hammerhead

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I just follow the bottles instructions. I think its price point is to high for what it has in it. I don't know anything about the bacteria there using. I did watch many side by sides on you tube. That's why I wanted to give it a try. Having just 1% of the microbes we need its not a good buy IMO. I will find something that has a better price point for whats in it.

Mammoth P Active ingredients.


Pseudomonas putida is a rod-shaped, flagellated, gram-negative bacterium that is found in most soil and water habitats where there is oxygen. Pseudomonas putida has several strains including the KT2440, a strain that colonizes the plant roots in which there is a mutual relationship between the plant and bacteria. The surface of the root, rhizosphere, allows the bacteria to thrive from the root nutrients. In turn, the Pseudomonas putida induces plant growth and protects the plants from pathogens.


Comamonas testosteroni s a Gram-negative soil bacterium. caused gastroenteritis by this organism in a 65-year-old female. Not much info on this for plants

Citrobacter freundi found in soil water, sewage, food and in the intestinal tracts of animals and humans. commonly found to be a member of the soil microbiome. This microbe plays an important role in the nitrogen cycle in the environment. C. freundii is responsible for reducing nitrate to nitrite in the environment. This conversion is an important and crucial stage in the nitrogen cycle.


Enterobacter cloacae is a member of the normal gut flora of many humans and is not usually a primary pathogen. Some strains have been associated with urinary tract and respiratory tract infections in immuno compromoised individuals.
 

billb

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I gotcha. Thanks. I’m going to put a lil more an do what the bottle says. I understand a lil better now. If you find something please share. You know so much more than so many of us on here. We all benefit greatly by replicating a good few of yalls methods
 

~star~crash~

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he's is very good with the knowings ... i found out early on that all U have to do is read his posts & you'll usually learn something valuable about growing marijuana ...he makes it easy to learn and shares his knowledge freely
 

Americangrower

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IDK about Mammoth P but $100 for 500ml I will stick with Organic Gem with Kelp.

Plant Health
Gives long lasting results with improvements in plant color, overall health and tremendous growth.
Soil Health
Soil qualities are improved for deeper rooting and better penetration of water and nutrients. Unproductive soil is can be rebuilt and replenished.
Microbial Activity
Promotes the growth of bacteria and other organisms as well as providing supplementary macro and micro nutrients.
$50 a gal. and local
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Dog Star

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This is what i get on Christmass from OvergrowDaWorld... to put salt on a wound
as i was wished so hard to grow GG#4... you can clearly sees that community
is full of mental illness aka hoarding..


What Is Hoarding Disorder?

People with hoarding disorder excessively save items that others may view as worthless. They have persistent difficulty getting rid of or parting with possessions, leading to clutter that disrupts their ability to use their living or work spaces.
Hoarding is not the same as collecting. Collectors look for specific items, such as model cars or stamps, and may organize or display them. People with hoarding disorder often save random items and store them haphazardly. In most cases, they save items that they feel they may need in the future, are valuable or have sentimental value. Some may also feel safer surrounded by the things they save.
Hoarding disorder occurs in an estimated 2 to 6 percent of the population and often leads to substantial distress and problems functioning. Some research show hoarding disorder is more common in males than females. It is also more common among older adults--three times as many adults 55 to 94 years are affected by hoarding disorder compared to adults 34 to 44 years old.
Consequences

Hoarding disorder can cause problems in relationships, social and work activities and other important areas of functioning. Potential consequences of serious hoarding include health and safety concerns, such as fire hazards, tripping hazards and health code violations. It can also lead to family strain and conflicts, isolation and loneliness, unwillingness to have anyone else enter the home and an inability to perform daily tasks such as cooking and bathing in the home.
Diagnosis Diagnosing Hoarding Disorder

Individuals with hoarding disorder have difficulty discarding items because of strong perceived need to save items and/or distress associated with discarding. The symptoms result in the accumulation of a large number of possessions that congest and clutter living areas of the home or workplace and make them unusable.






P.S.--- Dont wish to grow those cut any more,nor i wish to have anything with folks that act this way... i wish to be free and in good mental health,just that.


Goodby and please dont arouse me any more... will put anybody that tryes further
to harrass me on ignore list.
 

onavelzy

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This is what i get on Christmass from OvergrowDaWorld... to put salt on a wound
as i was wished so hard to grow GG#4... you can clearly sees that community
is full of mental illness aka hoarding..


What Is Hoarding Disorder?

People with hoarding disorder excessively save items that others may view as worthless. They have persistent difficulty getting rid of or parting with possessions, leading to clutter that disrupts their ability to use their living or work spaces.
Hoarding is not the same as collecting. Collectors look for specific items, such as model cars or stamps, and may organize or display them. People with hoarding disorder often save random items and store them haphazardly. In most cases, they save items that they feel they may need in the future, are valuable or have sentimental value. Some may also feel safer surrounded by the things they save.
Hoarding disorder occurs in an estimated 2 to 6 percent of the population and often leads to substantial distress and problems functioning. Some research show hoarding disorder is more common in males than females. It is also more common among older adults--three times as many adults 55 to 94 years are affected by hoarding disorder compared to adults 34 to 44 years old.
Consequences

Hoarding disorder can cause problems in relationships, social and work activities and other important areas of functioning. Potential consequences of serious hoarding include health and safety concerns, such as fire hazards, tripping hazards and health code violations. It can also lead to family strain and conflicts, isolation and loneliness, unwillingness to have anyone else enter the home and an inability to perform daily tasks such as cooking and bathing in the home.
Diagnosis Diagnosing Hoarding Disorder

Individuals with hoarding disorder have difficulty discarding items because of strong perceived need to save items and/or distress associated with discarding. The symptoms result in the accumulation of a large number of possessions that congest and clutter living areas of the home or workplace and make them unusable.






P.S.--- Dont wish to grow those cut any more,nor i wish to have anything with folks that act this way... i wish to be free and in good mental health,just that.


Goodby and please dont arouse me any more... will put anybody that tryes further
to harrass me on ignore list.

Seems a bit harsh.

I tried to follow this but the link you made doesn't have anything to do with you or ogdw. The logic of your argument about being gifted plants by hoarders is also hard to follow. I think assuming logic was being used was my error.

I think you're right. Time to move on mate.
 

billb

Active member
Veteran
This is what i get on Christmass from OvergrowDaWorld... to put salt on a wound
as i was wished so hard to grow GG#4... you can clearly sees that community
is full of mental illness aka hoarding..


What Is Hoarding Disorder?

People with hoarding disorder excessively save items that others may view as worthless. They have persistent difficulty getting rid of or parting with possessions, leading to clutter that disrupts their ability to use their living or work spaces.
Hoarding is not the same as collecting. Collectors look for specific items, such as model cars or stamps, and may organize or display them. People with hoarding disorder often save random items and store them haphazardly. In most cases, they save items that they feel they may need in the future, are valuable or have sentimental value. Some may also feel safer surrounded by the things they save.
Hoarding disorder occurs in an estimated 2 to 6 percent of the population and often leads to substantial distress and problems functioning. Some research show hoarding disorder is more common in males than females. It is also more common among older adults--three times as many adults 55 to 94 years are affected by hoarding disorder compared to adults 34 to 44 years old.
Consequences

Hoarding disorder can cause problems in relationships, social and work activities and other important areas of functioning. Potential consequences of serious hoarding include health and safety concerns, such as fire hazards, tripping hazards and health code violations. It can also lead to family strain and conflicts, isolation and loneliness, unwillingness to have anyone else enter the home and an inability to perform daily tasks such as cooking and bathing in the home.
Diagnosis Diagnosing Hoarding Disorder

Individuals with hoarding disorder have difficulty discarding items because of strong perceived need to save items and/or distress associated with discarding. The symptoms result in the accumulation of a large number of possessions that congest and clutter living areas of the home or workplace and make them unusable.






P.S.--- Dont wish to grow those cut any more,nor i wish to have anything with folks that act this way... i wish to be free and in good mental health,just that.


Goodby and please dont arouse me any more... will put anybody that tryes further
to harrass me on ignore list.
I’m lost, obviously we shouldn’t post gg4 pics! Cray
 

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