GIRL's GOT SKILLS

[dansbuds]

Do you let them totally dry out between feedings Dan?

the pots in flower ? no , they get fed 4 times during the light cycle every day for a total of about 2 to 3 minutes . they're still plenty damp by the time the lights come on & they get thier first feed . the very top layer of coco maybe be a little dry , but below that they're plenty wet .
its a no no to let coco dry out at all ! thats when salts cyrstalize & cause problems !

 

[Aspenou812]

Come on looking for roots.... Lots of roots....

 

[dansbuds]

Patience Girl Patience !!! ya just stuck them yesterday lol

a watched pot never boils !!!!

 

[Drumskinz]

thats an auto shut off valve for my RO feed to the barrel . the black hose coming out has a 1/4" smaller hose coming off it at the top of the barrel , thats my anti siphon hose .

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Oh, ok. So it's just a 1/4" piece of vinyl hose tee'd to the larger black vinyl hose and just hangs out of the top of the Rez for air. Sorry for being so dumb with my questions,
I hope to get better at this indoor stuff

 

[dansbuds]

no question is a stupid question ! thats what these forums are for , helping each other learn to grow & get the best out of it we can !

make sure the smaller hose points in to the barrel ! when the pump kicks on it sprays from that tube too . but make sure its not to long & is under water ..... then you defeated the purpose lol

 

[dansbuds]

Since Ive been on probation (january)........ not even a little puff.....and hes in a bad mood....

(75 more days till doobie time)

JUst call me Walter

& I hope the next month & a half go quick for ya !!!

 

[Drumskinz]

Come on looking for roots.... Lots of roots....

Do you use the 2 part z7 in your cloner? I've had shitty success with my ez clone 60 up until recently. I now dose my cloner every 4 days with z7 and clear rez when it's running and keep the ph at or close to 5.5. My water temp is around 80 degrees and that's why I use clear rez. Last Thursday, 7 days ago I put some gbbx2's,bx4's, sb's, c99's and some gth in the cloner. Tonite I have roots on a couple of c99's and some nubs starting on the rest of them. For me that's great. I just did a previous run 3 weeks ago with same method and got 60 out of 60 with beautiful white roots. Used to be I'd get maybe 20 to root and the rest turned to mush...does bio slime ring a bell lol

 

[Aspenou812]

yea i use z7 i have alot of people trying it...

 

[Aspenou812]

Im just wore out.... big Drama yesterday morning stressful as hell...So glad that's over...i cant even tell ya....then partly to blow off some steam i had the great idea to take a bunch of people spearfishing last night... That was crazy in all my years in the water at night I've never seen fish acting like they did last night... And i've seen a lot of fish and alot of wild shit going on in the water.... Then i got stuck cleaning the fish at my place.... And the night would not end until those clones were all set up.... I am confident that i will have the numbers i need out of the 53.... At least i hope i will.... The new boat has its benefits... The systems on that boat made our old boat look bad.. The sonar alone is just wow.... Fathom has a 45 MPH cruise and will under the right conditions run flat out at 70 +.... 65 is easy and that's moving in the water.... Yea those engines are sexy as hell....that's what i like about her... oh and the underwater lights.... It has triple the lights normally installed and lights up a column of water about 45 feet across all the way to the bottom....

 

[redlaser]

Im just wore out.... big Drama yesterday morning stressful as hell...So glad that's over...i cant even tell ya....then partly to blow off some steam i had the great idea to take a bunch of people spearfishing last night... That was crazy in all my years in the water at night I've never seen fish acting like they did last night... And i've seen a lot of fish and alot of wild shit going on in the water.... Then i got stuck cleaning the fish at my place.... And the night would not end until those clones were all set up.... I am confident that i will have the numbers i need out of the 53.... At least i hope i will....

No rest for the wicked, some things can't wait, or are best done asap. Usually time well spent, sense of accomplishment generally follows.

 

[Budley Doright]

Under the circumstances.....NO rest for the weary..... seems more appropriate....

 

[Bobbo4200]

Okay thanks Dan. I think I might be feeding too much and sogging them down.

 

[dansbuds]

Okay thanks Dan. I think I might be feeding too much and sogging them down.

untill a good root system is built up , you can smother the roots & slow the growth if watering/feeding to often . its a fine line & takes awhile to learn where that line is .
i went over the feeding of fresh transplants or young plants a few posts back in here somewhere .

this ........ [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]just make sure to go easy on the feeding for the first couple weeks . every 3 days or so & just enough to feed the plant . you don't want to smother the roots & slow the growth down . they need that dryness to build the roots . then once they get fully developed you can feed daily & eventually 3 or 4 times a day . [/FONT]

 

[dansbuds]

Im just wore out.... big Drama yesterday morning stressful as hell...So glad that's over...i cant even tell ya....then partly to blow off some steam i had the great idea to take a bunch of people spearfishing last night... That was crazy in all my years in the water at night I've never seen fish acting like they did last night... And i've seen a lot of fish and alot of wild shit going on in the water.... Then i got stuck cleaning the fish at my place.... And the night would not end until those clones were all set up.... I am confident that i will have the numbers i need out of the 53.... At least i hope i will.... The new boat has its benefits... The systems on that boat made our old boat look bad.. The sonar alone is just wow.... Fathom has a 45 MPH cruise and will under the right conditions run flat out at 70 +.... 65 is easy and that's moving in the water.... Yea those engines are sexy as hell....that's what i like about her... oh and the underwater lights.... It has triple the lights normally installed and lights up a column of water about 45 feet across all the way to the bottom....

but thats all over now & all you have to do is wait for roots & enjoy the time with lil dove

wish ya had better shit to smoke though .... thats gotta suck !!!

 

[waltersobchak]

Couple q's about your cloning procedure if you have time.

Did you use plugs straight from the bag or did you soak them first?

Rooting powder or gel before plug insertion?

Precharged coco with low strength nutes? ec?

Do you do your final 45 degree cut underwater? das a huge bowl

Just straight v+b?

Trying to make sure my gameplan is tight, first time w/o a cloner and using coco. Seed to mom went smooth other then some initial (what I believe was) calmag deficiency from not bringing the ro up to .3ec before adding the v+b. Maybe lockout from ph fluctuation messing with wet dry cycles building roots, not too sure, coco newb.

Just took 8 WWxBB and soaking in ph tap under low light for now.

Coco precharge and feed plan
- ro
- cal/mag up to .3 ec
- v+b .2 ec up to .5 ec total.
- ph 6.0
- soak, trim tips 30%, cut stem 45, dip in rooting powder of gel(have both), stick in plug and/or straight coco(haven't decided but have both)
- mist dome and set seed mat to 76
- single 2' T5 hung 3' above dome

I've got some other weapons in the arsenal i've gathered from my readings but not sure if I should add or just keep it simple for first try
- rhizotonic
- microblife hydro vitamin+amino
- protekt
- agsil16
- sm90
- z7 enzyme

 

[dansbuds]

Couple q's about your cloning procedure if you have time.

Did you use plugs straight from the bag or did you soak them first? I just soak them in tap water

Rooting powder or gel before plug insertion?
yes
Precharged coco with low strength nutes? ec?
yes .... .3 or .4 EC is plenty
Do you do your final 45 degree cut underwater? das a huge bowl
yes , but i also put the fresh cuts in a cup of water over night so they become turgid & have plenty of water in the stems & tops
Just straight v+b?
V&B plus 1ml of calmag & 2ml of the microbe life amino acids per gallon
Trying to make sure my gameplan is tight, first time w/o a cloner and using coco. Seed to mom went smooth other then some initial (what I believe was) calmag deficiency from not bringing the ro up to .3ec before adding the v+b. Maybe lockout from ph fluctuation messing with wet dry cycles building roots, not too sure, coco newb.
V&B has alot of Cal & Mag already in it , so unless you see a Cal or Mag def , i would hold off on using it . sounds like you had a calcium hog strain & needed the extra Cal .
Just took 8 WWxBB and soaking in ph tap under low light for now.

Coco precharge and feed plan
- ro
- cal/mag up to .3 ec
- v+b .2 ec up to .5 ec total. i wouldn't go over .4 EC with a precharge , most clones can't handle that much & you can burn them right from the start .
- ph 6.0
- soak, trim tips 30%, cut stem 45, dip in rooting powder of gel(have both), stick in plug and/or straight coco(haven't decided but have both)
- mist dome and set seed mat to 76
- single 2' T5 hung 3' above dome

I've got some other weapons in the arsenal i've gathered from my readings but not sure if I should add or just keep it simple for first try
- rhizotonic
- microblife hydro vitamin+amino
- protekt
- agsil16
- sm90
- z7 enzyme

you have a solid plan & you have done your homework , alot like Aspen did before diving in .

Rhizo is great for roots ! but what i don't like about it is it skyrockets the PH ! way up to over 10.0 , so you need to bring it back down which means another bottle needed to adjust the PH . V&B & the other additives bring the PH down . thats why i use the protekt as a PH up .... its silica which is great for the plants , but it also brings the PH up .
the microbe life has been great for keeping my veg plants & moms very happy !!! for some reason V&B seems to lack a little in veg when used alone , the amino acids have been a big help to me .
agsil16 & SM90 ...... i don't have any experiance with ......
the Z7 is great & keeps the salts & slime to a minimum ..... but it makes the PH climb back up after a day or so , so your rez will need readjusting more often . so i got to where i only use it if i think its needed .

other than that , your plan looks great ! if you have any more questions .... we're all here to help !

 

[Ichabod Crane]

I believe agsil16 is the same as Protekt.

SM-90 is ok for pest but not really needed for cloning if you dont have pests. Also it will raise the PH. It is mostly a essential oil mix.

 

[Aspenou812]

but thats all over now & all you have to do is wait for roots & enjoy the time with lil dove

wish ya had better shit to smoke though .... thats gotta suck !!!

Suck isn't the word for it.... when you're use to high quality.... they should outlaw the shit weed.... OH thats right they already did that....

 

[Aspenou812]

Couple q's about your cloning procedure if you have time.

Did you use plugs straight from the bag or did you soak them first?

Rooting powder or gel before plug insertion?

Precharged coco with low strength nutes? ec?

Do you do your final 45 degree cut underwater? das a huge bowl

Just straight v+b?

Trying to make sure my gameplan is tight, first time w/o a cloner and using coco. Seed to mom went smooth other then some initial (what I believe was) calmag deficiency from not bringing the ro up to .3ec before adding the v+b. Maybe lockout from ph fluctuation messing with wet dry cycles building roots, not too sure, coco newb.

Just took 8 WWxBB and soaking in ph tap under low light for now.

Coco precharge and feed plan
- ro
- cal/mag up to .3 ec
- v+b .2 ec up to .5 ec total.
- ph 6.0
- soak, trim tips 30%, cut stem 45, dip in rooting powder of gel(have both), stick in plug and/or straight coco(haven't decided but have both)
- mist dome and set seed mat to 76
- single 2' T5 hung 3' above dome

I've got some other weapons in the arsenal i've gathered from my readings but not sure if I should add or just keep it simple for first try
- rhizotonic
- microblife hydro vitamin+amino
- protekt
- agsil16
- sm90
- z7 enzyme

Thanks those are some good questions....
- I mixed up the solution for my cloner with z7, rooting solution ph that to 5.7.... Had some left over...
- I soak the rapid rooters in the leftover clone solution, hold them under give them a squeeze pull them out and squeeze all that water out....
- I use the starters upside down, so i cut a slit before i soak them in the bottom of the plug about an inch deep....
- I just some cheap rooting powder from lowes because it saved me a trip to the store....
- I made the new cuts at a node and made the cut under water then dipped into the rooting powder..... Always make a cut at the node if possible nodes are full of hormones... rooting hormones...
- I slip the fresh cut into the plug and use a small rubber band to hold it together
- then i needed to soak the coco.... I used the same solution to soak the coco... never put dry coco anywhere close to roots, the dry coco will pull the moisture out of the roots or plants quickly....
.... Maybe the gods will like how i did all that...it is labour intensive.... and show me the roots....

 

[MrBungle]

taking cuts under water? hmm thats a new one to me.... I don't see how it could hurt... just seems like extra work