Exactly. We shouldn't feel the need to depopulate nature. Except for mosquitos. And dandelions.
We have coyotes here in the heart of Toronto. Like every other critter, they use the river ravines as highways.
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Getting rid of coyotes and bobcats
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Exactly. We shouldn't feel the need to depopulate nature. Except for mosquitos. And dandelions.
We have coyotes here in the heart of Toronto. Like every other critter, they use the river ravines as highways.
Vandenberg
Well-known member
I use led predator lights as a deterrent.
I have both coyote and bobcat living all around me. When it comes to coyotes their are good coyotes and their are bad coyotes . Bad Coyotes kill pets and livestock.
Bad coyotes are ridiculously easy to terminate by playing the easily downloadable sound of a wild rabbit screaming while being attacked/ murdered. A coyote pack will see a pack member shot dead in front of them and 15 minutes later , same spot, same recording, they'll come rushing in again to get them some fresh rabbit.
Coyotes that leave your Pets and livestock alone are your friends and ones that don't are the enemy. If you kill the friendlies, the chance of an aggressive killer moving into the area is greatly increased as newcomers will take over an abandoned area. That being said I use blinking led lights that simulate the eyes of a big predator cat. Predators do not like/ participate in sketchy situations where they may become the prey.
PREDATOR LIGHTS is the takeaway here, They will keep the critters standing back. I use them around my chicken coop and haven't had problemS since. I am told that these are effective against Bobcats as they think these apparently are the bigger Cougars glowing eyes stalking them and makes them wary of their precarious surroundings too.
As an aside, the solar powered blinking led lights provide a theft deterrent as most people believe the flashing lights to be part of a property security system.
I have both coyote and bobcat living all around me. When it comes to coyotes their are good coyotes and their are bad coyotes . Bad Coyotes kill pets and livestock.
Bad coyotes are ridiculously easy to terminate by playing the easily downloadable sound of a wild rabbit screaming while being attacked/ murdered. A coyote pack will see a pack member shot dead in front of them and 15 minutes later , same spot, same recording, they'll come rushing in again to get them some fresh rabbit.
Coyotes that leave your Pets and livestock alone are your friends and ones that don't are the enemy. If you kill the friendlies, the chance of an aggressive killer moving into the area is greatly increased as newcomers will take over an abandoned area. That being said I use blinking led lights that simulate the eyes of a big predator cat. Predators do not like/ participate in sketchy situations where they may become the prey.
PREDATOR LIGHTS is the takeaway here, They will keep the critters standing back. I use them around my chicken coop and haven't had problemS since. I am told that these are effective against Bobcats as they think these apparently are the bigger Cougars glowing eyes stalking them and makes them wary of their precarious surroundings too.
As an aside, the solar powered blinking led lights provide a theft deterrent as most people believe the flashing lights to be part of a property security system.
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St. Phatty
Active member
Dealing with the same crap myself. But it's in a forested area. Planning to install "temporary fences". Never seen a more dishonest planning-zoning department.
Vandenberg
Well-known member
Old reliable electric fences are relatively easy and affordable especially when doing under an acre of land. The have new generation "tapes" that are high visibility for safety reasons.
The equipment is setup and designed as do it yourself.
The shock they deliver can go from a light tingle (for pet containment) to knock you on your/ "its" ass depending on the charging unit used.
The equipment is setup and designed as do it yourself.
The shock they deliver can go from a light tingle (for pet containment) to knock you on your/ "its" ass depending on the charging unit used.
Cuddles
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what a good idea. Don´t kill them or seriously injure them - just hurt them so they learn to stay away from a certain area.
I had know idea they even make those rubber bullets! But then, I know bugger all about guns anyway
I guess there´s nothing you can´t get hold of across the atlantic, lol
Cuddles
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a lot of people make the mistake of regarding dandelions are crappy weed. It is not, it´s actually a very valuable herb
PS. I do agree about the mosquitos! they can be mean little buggers... and wasps
I remember a lady in Thunderbird C.C. in Rancho Mirage. She couldn’t have a fence, but she figured out she could have trash cans. She lined them up all around her property.
they have non-lethal bean bag rounds, rubber slugs, & other neat stuff out there for shotguns, not sure if they sell to non-LEO. small bird shot at modest ranges will put them on the move...
Switcher56
Comfortably numb!
they use to sell .22 birdshot. Bad for varmints at close range but would definitely skedaddle a coyote at 50 yards.
just the noise alone will put a "yote in high gear. i bought some rat shot cartridges for my .38 Smith & tried them on targets. past 10 feet, you couldn't reliably put holes in a piece of notebook paper...they would be great for discouraging someone from trying to get in your car with you though...
Dandelions should and are cultivated.they are used in detox teas and other things.they are great plants.
Anyway not to derail this thread but I actually asked AOH the same question not too long ago.really unless you wanna go looking for the den there's not much you can do.when your dogs are outside watch extra carefully.ive lived in the country most of my life and I never had a problem with them until recently.but I still can't prove it was a coyote that killed a couple cats.hes getting old now but our rot killed tons of cats.so I can't rule out another dog killed the cats.
Anyway good luck buddy.i wouldn't worry too much.just keep an extra careful eye on your dogs
Green Squall
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My best advice is learn to live with them and don't be like me...Over a decade ago when the coyote population was at its peak, my cat got out and I found his remains in my front yard. Naturally shocked and pissed beyond belief, my knee jerk reaction was to shoot one, but I only wounded it. I regret it to this day, since it most likely suffered. Coyotes are like any other animal just trying to survive and I see it as the natural order or things. If you have small pets, its your responsibility to keep an eye on them and not let them roam unattended. We can't just go off killing every little thing that's an inconvenience.
troutman
Seed Whore
When cats get bigger than dogs you have rats with fur that bark.
Just don't leave your pets out when you're not around.
Even kitties are dangerous. Ricky LaFleur gets attacked by one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25fQwwZqrzI
Just don't leave your pets out when you're not around.
Even kitties are dangerous. Ricky LaFleur gets attacked by one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25fQwwZqrzI
When cats get bigger than dogs you have rats with fur that bark.
Just don't leave your pets out when you're not around.
Even kitties are dangerous. Ricky LaFleur gets attacked by one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25fQwwZqrzI
i've been bitten by both cats and dogs (bats too, long story) and i'd prefer another dog bite if i get a choice. i don't know what disease ridden rodents they gnaw on while out and about, but cat bites (scratches too) ALWAYS get infected...
Switcher56
Comfortably numb!
reminds me of the Komodo dragon. One bite and your dead meat. I saw a documentary on them. Their mouths are worse than the most nastiest of sewers you have ever encountered. It bites you, allows you to take off, he may watch you for days (dependent on size of prey) until you keel over. Then, its burger time. Nasty little (not so little) buggers!
I only saw each once, but hill behind house is steep and covered with tall weeds, trees, and fallen trees. I am hoping the wolf urine is working to keep them away. Had 4 or 5 deer everyday last year, and now gone, probably from wolf urine. Saw led lights that look like eyes, and motion activated sprinkler to scare them away.
Will clear out back hill in fall. Leaving now because of lots of extremely fast growing weeds that are all stickers, and hope that deters them also.
That sounds like good idea, especially if added to top of existing fence, or maybe razor wire (town might bitch about anything they do not like for looks).
I probably have some, and an old 22.
Last thing I want to do is kill them, but if they go after dogs, that is different story. Property is less than half acre, and they are only in fenced in area. Small deck to go out, and front yard like to let them run for 20 minutes mid morning. Have also thought about adding bamboo sticks to fence poles, and hanging deer fencing, but worried about tons of birds not seeing it, and getting stuck.
electric fence along the ground & on top might do it. i've seen 'yotes go right over a 6' chainlink fence before. easy as pie...
