Gettin the Hands Dirty: Mother Search 2021

[DunHav`nFun]

Hey Bro......Been a minute but just wanted to stop by and show respect for you gettin all yer ducks in a row.......Been keepin up with the thread but been busy scrapin off and excavating a spot for my yr round place at the beach so I don`t haveta migrate north when rental season rolls around......Gladta see you`ve found some production bitches to keep rotations in check , just remember the heads like variety so at least you`ve got 2 different strains to start with......Hopefully you `ll run down a couple more keepers and then monocroppin each quad insures more yield per each run for mo money , mo money , mo money every cycle ......You still lookin for that 1 oz plant to exploit right ?....I`m pullin for ya......

Any headway made for your lil cabin yet , or is it still in the drawing and concept phase .....Good luck on gettin it done .......I`ve dug and put in footings , poured a basement foundation instead of concrete block to raise me up off the ground far enough in case of hurricanes and storm surge from the gulf make it across the road .....My beach place that`s up on telephone poles to prevent such flood damage.has seen 4-5 ft. storm surge with really bad storms but it`s never made it across the rd where my pier and boathouse is , so I feel fairly safe putting in a basement for the crib to sit on.....anyways...........

Proud to see ya makin shit happen my buddy.....Hope everything falls into place for your rotations sooner than later , so keep strokin and get that environment dialed so all other aspects will follow ....aight ?.....Not gonna bust yer balls bout reflectix , you what to do......lol......Take care and......

Peace......DHF..............

 

[swapmeet]

Hey Bro......Been a minute but just wanted to stop by and show respect for you gettin all yer ducks in a row.......Been keepin up with the thread but been busy scrapin off and excavating a spot for my yr round place at the beach so I don`t haveta migrate north when rental season rolls around......Gladta see you`ve found some production bitches to keep rotations in check , just remember the heads like variety so at least you`ve got 2 different strains to start with......Hopefully you `ll run down a couple more keepers and then monocroppin each quad insures more yield per each run for mo money , mo money , mo money every cycle ......You still lookin for that 1 oz plant to exploit right ?....I`m pullin for ya......

Hey brother,

It is good to see you around actually posting... I see you lurkin around... liking a post here and there. I see ya bro. I appreciate it too. So.... first, congrats on getting your beach project going. I'll update the cabin situation below. Right now, structural update... So as you might remember, the quad is in my flower room... However, I have an identical flower room right next to it... I bought more racks and all, got them assembled and laid out in room "B." I was looking for that efficient setup that was going to make my life easier and get me to that 1 zip/plant average that I am chasing.

As for the keeper stgrains so far, I've got the two. A nice frosty ass, quick flowering, good yielder in the Gigabud, and a fast flowering (for a haze cross @8-9 weeks), purple, frosty, and powerful Blue Dream #3.... Since it is a cross of a US Haze cut and blueberry ice....it is kind of a purple haze cross... So those are my first two keepers. However, there are several strains I haven't even tried yet to go with my new young mothers and serious strains still on the way...so I still have much too many...but it's all about finding the best few strains to momo and dial...

I figured it would be much easier to water and such if I could walk around the inside...so I pushed the racks against the walls and found that if I make kind of a pentagon with the racks, not only could I fit 5 instead of 4, but it seems like it would be easier to move in there for my big ass... Of course, with that realization, came another. If I hope to get my goal of a zip per, and I want the 5th rack, I will need more light. So I was thinking about using 3 x 600w HPS in my tower rather than 3 x 315w CMH. Par can only go so far... Penetration is the key, and I have the lights already... so it is just a matter of changing the sockets on my tower to mogul...

So I started thinking.... If I have a triple stack of 600w lights with 4 shelves of plants, the only difference between my racks and your old rooms, is the fuckin racks... so while I'm using the same amount of plants, roughly the same size of room (I think yours were 10x10, and these might be 9x9), the same amount of shelves, and the same 3 lights set up the same way, why don't I just get rid of the racks and put shelves the way you did it? This way, I can spread the plants out a little and stagger the plants on each shelf so the plants below stretch up between the the plants above them....

So in flower room B, I am going to recreate one of your flip rooms and just turn it into a monocrop production room for the 6 week strain (gigabud NL x Big Bud) and fill the room half every 2 weeks, or just go full room....haven't decided... you and I can talk it through. Once I get things dialed, I can automate watering. we will have to fully revisit the flip rooms later on. If the shelving works anything like yours, then I'll convert room A into the same setup, and use my rack quads in bigger rooms that aren't like perfect for the shelves....

Any headway made for your lil cabin yet , or is it still in the drawing and concept phase .....Good luck on gettin it done .......I`ve dug and put in footings , poured a basement foundation instead of concrete block to raise me up off the ground far enough in case of hurricanes and storm surge from the gulf make it across the road .....My beach place that`s up on telephone poles to prevent such flood damage.has seen 4-5 ft. storm surge with really bad storms but it`s never made it across the rd where my pier and boathouse is , so I feel fairly safe putting in a basement for the crib to sit on.....anyways...........

Proud to see ya makin shit happen my buddy.....Hope everything falls into place for your rotations sooner than later , so keep strokin and get that environment dialed so all other aspects will follow ....aight ?.....Not gonna bust yer balls bout reflectix , you what to do......lol......Take care and......

Peace......DHF..............

As for my cabin.... The drawings, blue prints, and all that shit have been drawn up and signed off on by my engineer and we are now onto the building permit stage. The green house on the roof will be about 30' x 45' and my grow laboratory in the basement is a 50' square.... so that will be nice... it will look something like this, according to my architect...:

 

[exploziv]

That's not a cabin, man, that's a dreamhouse!
Good luck getting it built, looks sweet!

 

[swapmeet]

That's not a cabin, man, that's a dreamhouse!
Good luck getting it built, looks sweet!

Hahaha thanks bro...it is a cabin because it is in the mountains lol it is still 675 sqm (7,265 sq ft.). A big cabin lol... We should start developing the lot around the first of the year... One of the coolest parts is that whole second floor in front is a glass wall overlooking a great view... it is my bedroom including shower and closet with that glass.... So it will be like limo tint, but shower and bedroom are all overlooking this:

 

[DunHav`nFun]

Cabin my ass..............More like a damn mansion in da mtns from where my old ass sees it......Well.....I wrote a damn book and it disappeared so the cliffnotes version is all I`ve got the strength for at this point in the game..........sooooo......Thin kin bout doin a 3-600 stacker like I had huh.....you could do worse.....lol......My rooms were outside 8x8 but the shelves were 1' inward so the grow area was 6x6 with everything not green covered in reflectix for a perfect 50 watts per sq ft usin active intakes and exhaust out turnin room air over twice per minute utilizing CO2 inherent in the air we breathe with temps in the low to mid 80`s 24/7/365......

Corners were chopped/angled to keep plants away from each other and room to stretch so they wouldn`t grow into each other and choke one another out.....plus.....lumens fall off in dead corners and plants suffer ....that`s from Heath`s findings on his original design of his vertical shelf grows before he graduated to the angled racks with his fully recirculating runs in hydroton......anyways.....Good luck on everything Bro.....I`m around , just tryin to focus on my project and get as far as possible before havin to frame this bitch up and pull all the trades in to do subcontract work....

Hopefully I `ll finish before rental season begins round spring break , but most likely not since help`s so damn hard to find these days.....Eeeeerbody `s been ruined by Biden`s fuckin 3 and 400 a week pay on top of unemployment since mofo`s were makin more sittin on their dead ass than actually earnin a living , and now even though it`s over , folks just don`t wanna work any more.....sad really......aight.....Gotta go check my crab traps before it gets dark.....Take care and holler on any help you need ......

Peace.....DHF...........

 

[swapmeet]

Cabin my ass..............More like a damn mansion in da mtns from where my old ass sees it......Well.....I wrote a damn book and it disappeared so the cliffnotes version is all I`ve got the strength for at this point in the game..........sooooo......Thin kin bout doin a 3-600 stacker like I had huh.....you could do worse.....lol......My rooms were outside 8x8 but the shelves were 1' inward so the grow area was 6x6 with everything not green covered in reflectix for a perfect 50 watts per sq ft usin active intakes and exhaust out turnin room air over twice per minute utilizing CO2 inherent in the air we breathe with temps in the low to mid 80`s 24/7/365......

Corners were chopped/angled to keep plants away from each other and room to stretch so they wouldn`t grow into each other and choke one another out.....plus.....lumens fall off in dead corners and plants suffer ....that`s from Heath`s findings on his original design of his vertical shelf grows before he graduated to the angled racks with his fully recirculating runs in hydroton......anyways.....Good luck on everything Bro.....I`m around , just tryin to focus on my project and get as far as possible before havin to frame this bitch up and pull all the trades in to do subcontract work....

Hopefully I `ll finish before rental season begins round spring break , but most likely not since help`s so damn hard to find these days.....Eeeeerbody `s been ruined by Biden`s fuckin 3 and 400 a week pay on top of unemployment since mofo`s were makin more sittin on their dead ass than actually earnin a living , and now even though it`s over , folks just don`t wanna work any more.....sad really......aight.....Gotta go check my crab traps before it gets dark.....Take care and holler on any help you need ......

Peace.....DHF...........

Hey bro,

I just measured the room after laying out my racks like this:

and I was thinking....wtf do I need these racks for? Shelves would take up much less room. It won't be exactly like yours, but close enough to where there isn't a better person to offer experiences in your set up that could help me dial my set up in. The room is 8' x 7.5ish'. I can offset the light by a couple inches in the room to make it roughly similar, Also, I will be using much smaller pots than you did. Yours were 5g and mine are 2g, so I can save a couple inches on each side there too. I will have to hang netting in front of each shelf, as you suggested to me, to support branches as well as keep them away from the light...

As for air movement... I am lucky because I live in a cool climate year around and there is always a breeze blowing. there won't be a door on that room and it has two big ass windows that are wide open....it also has an open window in the actual room, so the breeze just blows through during the day. If the fan under the light tower is not enough, then I can mount a duct fan on the ceiling, and duct it out the window. I'll do tests/dry runs and adjust as needed.

I am thinking 4 shelves of 6 plants except the door wall, which will have 3 or 4.

12"
28"
44"
60"

Since the bulbs in my tower are facing up rather than down, the light projects up and out rather than down and out, so to speak... so I will probably want the sockets at least, what, 8" lower than if they were facing down? perhaps lower? What are your thoughts on that hahaha and everything else...

 

[DunHav`nFun]

Well Bro.....let`s see.....btw.....I like those racks , especially the corner ones , if you can keep the plants away from each other once they hit stretch mode.....I ` d have had octagons if I had my druthers but my old ass ain`t croppin no mo......My racks were @ 18,36,54 and 72" with the bottoms of my bare bulbs @ 2,4, and 6 ' , and the reason I used # 5 smart pots was due to the fact I only fed once a day till end of stretch and then once they started drinkin more in full swellage mode , I changed over to twice a day/12 hr cycles that is......

My basement ceilings were only 7' 6" but ceilings and back walls were covered in reflectix so light bounced up down and all around ftw.......looks like your ceilings are higher up than that , but with your bulbs pointed up not much light will be lost since directly above OR below bare bulb tips , lumens , par , umol , whatever the fuck they call the shit these days. , fall off dramatically.....that said......

The more plants per shelf you run will cut down the need for more weight per each container , so that 1 oz per plant might not be necessary for the end results come choptime..dunno...that`s the X factor yet to be determined...anyways....Dialage comes from doin this shit ...So get to work and handle it my buddy......I gotcher back......Take care and good luck on more pheno huntin......

Peace.....DHF.............

 

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Well Bro.....let`s see.....btw.....I like those racks , especially the corner ones , if you can keep the plants away from each other once they hit stretch mode.....I ` d have had octagons if I had my druthers but my old ass ain`t croppin no mo......My racks were @ 18,36,54 and 72" with the bottoms of my bare bulbs @ 2,4, and 6 ' , and the reason I used # 5 smart pots was due to the fact I only fed once a day till end of stretch and then once they started drinkin more in full swellage mode , I changed over to twice a day/12 hr cycles that is......

I have problems with the very corners of the racks as well. I was thinking of leaving the corners open, just putting pots on both sides at least 8" from the corner. I suppose I could make little corner shelves bridging the gap and putting a corner plant there...we will see. If I do that, it will be in the dialage stage, after a run or two...


I was actually thinking of something similar, with the base of the socket around even with the top of the pots or a little higher than the very bottom branches of the first plant, then go up about 2' per light from there. This should, in theory, ensure that the whole plant gets really good light. I figure that since my pots are 7-8" tall, and plants going in at around 20", with the shelf at 18" I can start at about 28" and go up 2' each from there.

My basement ceilings were only 7' 6" but ceilings and back walls were covered in reflectix so light bounced up down and all around ftw.......looks like your ceilings are higher up than that , but with your bulbs pointed up not much light will be lost since directly above OR below bare bulb tips , lumens , par , umol , whatever the fuck they call the shit these days. , fall off dramatically.....that said.....

My ceilings in there are over 8', maybe 8.5.... so with all the upward-facing light bulbs, reflectix on the ceiling seems like the right idea to me. Wow, a couple things jump out at me there... your top shelf is 6', as is the bottom of your top light... I know your shelves were angled what 45 degrees? So your top-shelf plants must have been growing out almost right at the bulbs against or right up against the ceiling. Those shelf heights and bottom of bulb heights would work well for my tall ass...I'm 6'4, so that saves the bending... also, 18" instead of 16 between the plants is better for me too. I have been hesitant to have the bulbs below the tops of my plants, but I guess it wouldn't be much of an issue with the bulbs facing upwards, shooting light up and out...

The more plants per shelf you run will cut down the need for more weight per each container , so that 1 oz per plant might not be necessary for the end results come choptime..dunno...that`s the X factor yet to be determined...anyways....Dialag e comes from doin this shit ...So get to work and handle it my buddy......I gotcher back......Take care and good luck on more pheno huntin......

Peace.....DHF.............

This is a good point... with 6 per shelf instead of 4, I would need only .67 oz/ plant to reach my goal, and if I fit 8, well, that would take it down to a half zip per to reach my weight goal. That seems to be very, very plausible.

 

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I edited the last one with actual figures @DunHav`nFun so read it again before responding...lol

 

[DunHav`nFun]

No biggie Bro....... I catch the drift......lol......First off......With bare bulbs.......The majority of your light is sideways with very very little above OR below the tips of the bulbs , and that` s why it`s of utmost importance to light the grow area with as optimal watts per sq ft as possible.....The reflectix behind the plants , on the fronts of the angled shelves plus the ceilings guarantee that ALL the light gets bounced back at the plants from every angle with 50 watts per sq ft .......

My next move had I not been forced to retire , was gonna be to build lil runways around the bulbs to get containers up off the concrete floors and load 16 more plantlets in each room for a total of 80 instead of 64 cuz the floors were just wasted after seeing all the room leftover since I never went in the rooms but once when stretch was completely over to get rid of all unneeded fanleaves , and there`s no tellin what final numbers would end at once dialed in and hoonin but alas I `ll never know.....lol.....and yeah......

My shelves were at 45 degree angles cuz Heath came to the conclusion early on when he was first starting out with plants on the walls , that plants wasted too much energy growing toward the light stimulus that could be utilized more efficiently if they were already pointed directly AT the light source with no need to be phototropic .....I believe that`s the term if my old ass recalls correctly , and the other reasons being that with plants on flat shelves like in stadium setups , the backs of the plants always needed hacked out to prevent lack of penetration and allow the fronts of the plants to use all the energy being all they could be by end of cycle , and really you only get 1/2 the yield from each plant compared to if they point right at the light source........

With angled shelves and the plants pointed directly at the bare bulbs , there`s no need to hack away any parts of the plants since the lights penetration`s aimed at and hitting the WHOLE plant , not just the fronts......anyways.....Hope you get the gist of it.....It ain`t rocket science just mostly common sense from many observations watchin how plants grow toward bare bulbs sideways......aight.....Nuff outta my old self this day.....It`s warmed up to 72 and I`m gone fishin for some speckled trout and redfish to put on da grill ......Keep strokin Bro.....Dialage is within reach with more runs under your belt and attention to detail......Take care and ......

Peace......DHF............

 

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No biggie Bro....... I catch the drift......lol......First off......With bare bulbs.......The majority of your light is sideways with very very little above OR below the tips of the bulbs , and that` s why it`s of utmost importance to light the grow area with as optimal watts per sq ft as possible.....The reflectix behind the plants , on the fronts of the angled shelves plus the ceilings guarantee that ALL the light gets bounced back at the plants from every angle with 50 watts per sq ft .......

My next move had I not been forced to retire , was gonna be to build lil runways around the bulbs to get containers up off the concrete floors and load 16 more plantlets in each room for a total of 80 instead of 64 cuz the floors were just wasted after seeing all the room leftover since I never went in the rooms but once when stretch was completely over to get rid of all unneeded fanleaves , and there`s no tellin what final numbers would end at once dialed in and hoonin but alas I `ll never know.....lol.....and yeah......

interesting... It will be nice to have that kind of penetration.... There really is no reason not to set a row on the floors, also concrete... if they can get enough light that way, then I'll try it.... why raise them off the ground though, just for drainage?

My shelves were at 45 degree angles cuz Heath came to the conclusion early on when he was first starting out with plants on the walls , that plants wasted too much energy growing toward the light stimulus that could be utilized more efficiently if they were already pointed directly AT the light source with no need to be phototropic .....I believe that`s the term if my old ass recalls correctly , and the other reasons being that with plants on flat shelves like in stadium setups , the backs of the plants always needed hacked out to prevent lack of penetration and allow the fronts of the plants to use all the energy being all they could be by end of cycle , and really you only get 1/2 the yield from each plant compared to if they point right at the light source........

With angled shelves and the plants pointed directly at the bare bulbs , there`s no need to hack away any parts of the plants since the lights penetration`s aimed at and hitting the WHOLE plant , not just the fronts......anyways.....Hope you get the gist of it.....It ain`t rocket science just mostly common sense from many observations watchin how plants grow toward bare bulbs sideways......aight.....Nuff outta my old self this day.....It`s warmed up to 72 and I`m gone fishin for some speckled trout and redfish to put on da grill ......Keep strokin Bro.....Dialage is within reach with more runs under your belt and attention to detail......Take care and ......

Peace......DHF............

I figured instead of angling the brackets at 45, I can angle the shelves by putting a strip or two across the back of the brackets, then put the shelves on so the back is higher than the front... with the fabric pots, they probably wont slide much either....

 

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Here is a picture of my little outdoor experiment.... If this one goes well, which it seems to be so far, then I will train some indoor veg Amnesia Hazes, then put them outside to flower...

Not too shabby looking.... 3 weeks into flower.... probably another week or so of stretching......I figure I could fit 4 or 5 of these here if I train them a bit first inside....

This was her on day 1 of flower:

 

[DunHav`nFun]

Heath`s racks were built like you say with staggered strips to hold the containers up and completely open with the front strips higher than the back......Mine were framed and covered in pondliner to prevent leaks down on each next level........now.....Plants on the floor....rather up off the floor and why ?.....Well , drainage for sure so they wouldn`t sit in their own runoff and reabsorb used nutrients that would ultimately cause residual salts buildup , but more importantly .....Concrete`s a heatsink and will draw the warmth outta the rootzones and eventually slow and shut down growth completely f not remedied.....Cold rootzone / rootmass bad.....warm rootzone / rootmass good.....but....

Plants on the floor wouldn`t yield as much as the angled plants due to the phototropism and wasted energy leaning and growing toward the light stimulus from sittin flat on da floor , but would definitely end up increasing the bottom line results from each cycle , so why not ............also.....bringing outdoor plants inside and vice versa......Gotta be careful about bringin critters in with plants that`re easily exposed to insects where they live and thrive outdoors , so just be ready to implement an IPM / integrated pest management program should interlopers and critters invade the inside grow areas cuz they can kill rotations as fast as they begin.....guaranteed....aight......Good luck......Keep strokin and......

Peace......DHF.............

 

[swapmeet]

Heath`s racks were built like you say with staggered strips to hold the containers up and completely open with the front strips higher than the back......Mine were framed and covered in pondliner to prevent leaks down on each next level........now.....Plants on the floor....rather up off the floor and why ?.....Well , drainage for sure so they wouldn`t sit in their own runoff and reabsorb used nutrients that would ultimately cause residual salts buildup , but more importantly .....Concrete`s a heatsink and will draw the warmth outta the rootzones and eventually slow and shut down growth completely f not remedied.....Cold rootzone / rootmass bad.....warm rootzone / rootmass good.....but.... Plants on the floor wouldn`t yield as much as the angled plants due to the phototropism and wasted energy leaning and growing toward the light stimulus from sittin flat on da floor , but would definitely end up increasing the bottom line results from each cycle , so why not ............also.....

Got it I'll get them off the ground and slanted...like I did at the hot house a year and a half ago or 2 years... and all my rack shelves are lined with plastic, as these will be...once I get around my target yield, I'll automate watering...

bringing outdoor plants inside and vice versa......Gotta be careful about bringin critters in with plants that`re easily exposed to insects where they live and thrive outdoors , so just be ready to implement an IPM / integrated pest management program should interlopers and critters invade the inside grow areas cuz they can kill rotations as fast as they begin.....guaranteed....aight. .....Good luck......Keep strokin and......

Peace......DHF.............

I am not bringing any plants in from outdoors....just veg inside and flower outside. I cannot veg outside since we are close enough to the equator to have a 12/12 light cycle all year round... So the long flowering, big stretching plants will veg inside with the rest, then flower outside and stretch to their heart's content and take up as much space as they want outside...I have some more sour diesel, some bruce B, and some amnesia haze that I can happily flower outside....

 

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Quick update:

I've got another wave in the books, trimmed, and drying. I give a couple of nug shots taken during our trimming extravaganza. After that we will talk flower room B. I got the brackets and shelves yesterday evening... So I will get the hardware and get those up today...


First, some nuggets of love:

My first taste of the Blue Cheese

I'll let you play the guessing game on which plant this came off...no hints, don't ask:

and I was surprised to see how frosty gigabud 3 is. gigabud is already a keeper with GB1 and GB2 both very similar, though 2 yields more. Gigabud 3 certainly did not disappoint in bag appeal, smoke, nor power... a real keeper that I will be filling up flower room B with, monocroped.... here is the GB3, some of these nugs literally look frozen...The frost is real in GB:

This was my first 1,000 or so gummies that my first attempt produced....I played with the dosing through that batch and I am going to shoot for tomorrow for the first wave of the second batch...I have learned a lot about gummies in the first batch...these were pineapple flavor, second batch kiwi-strawberry... I made gummy bears, dinosaurs, and other shit. I bought some new molds in dog bone gummies and heart, but I have not received them yet, so bears next batch:

I'll actually do another post about Room B...

 

[CosmicGiggle]

Very nice swapmeet, I'd say 2021 has been a productive year for you, flowers/gummies, keep going!

 

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As far as the shelves in room B go, this is my thinking:

I was originally thinking about 2 x 4' shelves on my 8' wall. I figured that an actual plywood sheet is not quite 4 x 8, so If I cut the sheet in half, I would have two 4x4' pieces... Then, since my pots are only 8", I could cit 10" shelves with the leftover 6-8" strip cut into pot stoppers in the front... so pots don't slide off the front when watering...

I am not sure if you guys know this, buy plywood is pretty fuckin expensive these days... around $30 a sheet for 1/2". Then my wife found some nice little ABS plastic shelves that are 3' x 1'x about an inch or so thickness, with a grate top for air flow and easy drainage... Since there are so many holes, I can use zip ties to secure 1/2" PEX or PVC to the top front for stoppers...plus, Once I'm ready to automate watering, I can just punch/drill holes in the pipe, put a straight connector to 1/4" tube, to basket stake. I can keep the res directly outside and in between the two rooms so one res can feed both rooms when I'm ready.

Now... when I was first shown these shelves (my wife ordered several for one of her projects), I started thinking about the corners... As you were saying, @Freds, regarding the best shape of a room being an octagon. This is because in the corners, the plants get tucked in and covered by the plants on either side of corner plants...so an octagon would move the corner plants forward and properly give them access to light and air, since they are at least even with plants on either side, perhaps even a tiny bit in front...and it keeps them spaced well...basically giving corner plants their own space.... So, I was thinking....

these shelves are 3' each, so a bracket on each end of each shelf is the way to go. 2 of these side by side is 6', leaving a foot in each corner completely open.

so if I cut two of these shelves in half, I will have 4 pieces 1.5' long.

Those can be bridged across the corners with an edge over the bracket on either side..... This will create the proverbial octagon.

with only 8" pots (2g), I can very comfortably fit 3 per shelf, or perhaps 7 on 2 shelves if I put one between the two shelves too. But for now, the plan is 3 per shelf or 6 per wall with open corners.

So, all this said, this is what I envisage:


I have 2 x 8' walls, and 2 x 7' walls.

So my rough sketch looks something like this:

this makes 25/shelf, which could change by one or two, depending on spacing x 5 shelves. I will pick up the hardware and get some shelving up today.. I can already tell the bottom right corner plants will be eliminated.... more to come...

 

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Here is the spacing on 3/shelf:

 

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Things just got Serious in here... My final seeds of this project have finally made it... now that part is complete... I bought this pack directly from them, so it is like a buffet of plants known for the kind of growth, frostiness, yield, and power I am looking for. I'll get these germing tonight... now it's back to work.

 

[swapmeet]

Very nice swapmeet, I'd say 2021 has been a productive year for you, flowers/gummies, keep going!

Hey bro, thanks for stopping by...It is getting there. I am trying to build momentum into 2022... so far, so good. Thanks for the kind words.