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I like these events and the idea of these events and I've even been to a few and more and the problem I see now is going to these and getting "grower AIDS"...
And I mean... Like..> Anything! Everything!
Selling cuts, trading cuts, and every grower from miles around interacting... LOL if people are worried about this bullshit china virus, I'll tell you what I worry about > Powdery mildew and root aphids.
I've seen plenty of times I've been there and there are noticeable signs of bug damage on clones being sold. You're probably not going to see the bug, but you'll see the slight signs... Spotting, "flaking", and some other symptoms of munchers.
Does anyone even, at least, SPRAY THEIR SHOES with some sort of soapy cleaning or other disinfecting agent before you get in your car???
Are you going to strip off (or burn) all your clothes before you get in the car?
How about when you get in your house? Or before??
"Hey would you hand me a towel when I get home so the neighbors don't see me running from the car inside I have to run to shower in the bathroom when I get back" <<<< pretty much a real story.
oh and yeah theres the...
"YES I would like to do your high paying consulting job and try and fix your horrible problem with mold and bugs. EXCEPT I don't want to bring that shit home with me are you nuts?? How much are you paying me??? You do know all my strains are better than yours???"
So like... I'm just sayin.... Even I may go.. Cause like, I'm bored! Its good times! Good weed! Fun to see people and support the industry! And fuck this fake virus no being social bullshit! We're weed people. We're scofflaws. Omg someone shoot me I used the word "scofflaw"....
but.
Do I want to buy those cuts??? Sure... Uh..> I'm not paying prob over $50 from a guy especially for stuff I don't know isn't coming from a tissue culture lab-level cloning operation, with no pedigree, no trust, no at least somewhat of a company, and even then, you only cut away the vectors for disease in TC and once it's out of the lab, forget it, you are simply introducing mold and disease back onto supposedly "clean" clones.
But that's just me, cause I'm all set. Someone might need to pay $100+ dollars or more for some good cuts, yeah, I mean, honestly it's probably the minimum I would charge at an event like this also for some stuff. .... You know, you do retail, you know you have your low money, your mid money, and your high range. And they can just clone it forever, sell it as clones even, etc.,.
But jesus christ I wouldn't charge my friends that lol.
Also I use AGE as much as "elite-ness" or status as a metric for how much a clone is worth money wise (along with how good the high/flavor is as well)... FOR INSTANCE.. Something under 5, or especially 3 years old as a clone, is worth much less than something over 5 years, which at that point could garner a price label over $100.
Usually depending how good something is, I would tack on anywhere from $100 dollars to $10,000 dollars per year that cut has been alive (in that keeper's possession). Anything less than 5 years old I really wouldn't do this for though > it simply hasn't proven itself worthy through the test of time on many levels, first being market viable, but also being able to simply survive the barrage of diseases and pests that will likely befall it, which also takes some love and care of a grower to keep it... Meaning, it was worth keeping as well versus anything else.
So even with your Cannomic Labs clones, who I think will be there... Like, you're walking into an open sewer and the white plague is airborne, the worst threats are microscopic. They travel in your clothes, your hair, and your feet.
I'm not knocking the event, I'm just saying be careful.
Not of that china virus bs again. I think you have more to worry about with bad MA drivers than that.
And the bugs! Like. Burn your clothes. And the cuts you buy after. And seeds. Just like. Assume there's spores and stuff on there. So like, yeah. Spend your money, drive that economy, and burn it. Cause you realize shit! What were you thinking lol! And it's ok, you realize ahh well. You helped out the economy.
Oh.. and theres these neat handheld UV wands being sold at home depot.. Sure you can grab em online... DO they work for viruses (and mold)??//... Uh... Maybe.. BUT FUCKING CHRIST SELL SOME EYE PROTECTION WITH IT WILL YA! >... the warning on the back is not enough.. DO NOT look at that shit. Christ. "Hey Lets sell some blinding wands with very little warning" "ok!" lol.
But Idk I saw those and thought hell yeah, seeing as using UV is something I want to incorporate into things and many commercial setups already are using uv cleaning lighting in their ductwork and so on.... Something like those wands is very good for this and the home, IF they work.. Shit.. If those things can kill mold.. AND other bugs. Mold alone is good enough but... Man.. Can someone get Med Genomics on this?? Maybe I'll hit someone up...
only $300 to get a real votski or Brunson cut??? that's hella cheap. Brunson's in that video with Cardi B right?
I like these events and the idea of these events and I've even been to a few and more and the problem I see now is going to these and getting "grower AIDS".
Does anyone even, at least, SPRAY THEIR SHOES with some sort of soapy cleaning or other disinfecting agent before you get in your car???
Are you going to strip off (or burn) all your clothes before you get in the car?
How about when you get in your house? Or before??
"Hey would you hand me a towel when I get home so the neighbors don't see me running from the car inside I have to run to shower in the bathroom when I get back" <<<< pretty much a real story.
"YES I would like to do your high paying consulting job and try and fix your horrible problem with mold and bugs. EXCEPT I don't want to bring that shit home with me are you nuts?? How much are you paying me??? You do know all my strains are better than yours???"
Do I want to buy those cuts??? Sure... Uh..> I'm not paying prob over $50 from a guy especially for stuff I don't know isn't coming from a tissue culture lab-level cloning operation, with no pedigree, no trust, no at least somewhat of a company, and even then, you only cut away the vectors for disease in TC and once it's out of the lab, forget it, you are simply introducing mold and disease back onto supposedly "clean" clones.
But that's just me, cause I'm all set. Someone might need to pay $100+ dollars or more for some good cuts, yeah, I mean, honestly it's probably the minimum I would charge at an event like this also for some stuff. .... You know, you do retail, you know you have your low money, your mid money, and your high range. And they can just clone it forever, sell it as clones even, etc.,.
But jesus christ I wouldn't charge my friends that lol.
Also I use AGE as much as "elite-ness" or status as a metric for how much a clone is worth money wise (along with how good the high/flavor is as well)... FOR INSTANCE.. Something under 5, or especially 3 years old as a clone, is worth much less than something over 5 years, which at that point could garner a price label over $100.
Usually depending how good something is, I would tack on anywhere from $100 dollars to $10,000 dollars per year that cut has been alive (in that keeper's possession). Anything less than 5 years old I really wouldn't do this for though > it simply hasn't proven itself worthy through the test of time on many levels, first being market viable, but also being able to simply survive the barrage of diseases and pests that will likely befall it, which also takes some love and care of a grower to keep it... Meaning, it was worth keeping as well versus anything else.
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The experience is what you make it. You can get bugs walking into a hydro store.
You should definitely be quarantining your cuts in a separate area and taking clones from there.
Absolutely. Being proactive about prevention is the key, not total avoidance.
To be honest, I would be so thrilled to speak about cannabis in person with others, I would be all over an event like that. As of now, forums are the only way I can interact with other growers.
Absolutely. Being proactive about prevention is the key, not total avoidance.
To be honest, I would be so thrilled to speak about cannabis in person with others, I would be all over an event like that. As of now, forums are the only way I can interact with other growers.
So I've gone the total avoidance route on taking in clones for many years now. I see many strains I would love to get though. What's the best way to handle cuts when taking them in? Separate area for sure but what products do people use to treat the clones to make sure you kill anything that might be on them and is not gonna hurt you...
Well home depot, lowes, and any other local garden center or any place really they sell plant or have horticultural products can be a vector for bugs and mold.[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]You can get bugs walking into a hydro store. [/FONT]
The problem when I go to things like this is most people are not "real" growers or were trained in any way in actual horticultural science.[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]On one hand, I would love to be able to go to an event where I could discuss cannabis growing face to face with people and trade genetics and information.[/FONT]
The whole "separate area thing".. Like... What about when you go check on the clones, and then walk back to wherever you go. And then you check your grow. Youre going back and forth between areas... Its no bueno. Thats not a separate area, it's just a hassle for you..What's the best way to handle cuts when taking them in? Have a separate tissue culture nursery miles away to clone in, and then a super strict protocol of people who transfer those plants inbetween. I'm talking definite non growers, using cars that have been sprayed down... Etc., etc.,..
Separate area for sure but what products do people use to treat the clones to make sure you kill anything that might be on them and is not gonna hurt you...
You're not getting rid of root aphids or russet mites or other things with a sulfur dunk that's for sure.