Gender dysphoria and the trans movement.

[armedoldhippy]

and if you are one of the unfortunate folks born intersex, with sexual characteristics/organs

The first thing you do is accept the mind and body you were born with.

of both sexes? if your mind disagrees with your body? the world is not always black and white.

 

[Hiddenjems]

and if you are one of the unfortunate folks born intersex, with sexual characteristics/organs


of both sexes? if your mind disagrees with your body? the world is not always black and white.

Mammals have 2 different gametes. From conception they follow one of two paths, one has the goal of producing sperm, and the other eggs. They don’t all succeed in being able to produce these gametes, but there are no other options, and one can’t become the other.

How someone lives their life is their business. But you aren’t going to turn lead into gold, or fly unaided. These are just simple physical laws you can’t change.

People have a real hard time with that. Denial of objective reality is all the rave now.

 

[RobFromTX]

Denial of objective reality is all the rave now.

So true

 

[GenghisKush]

Mammals have 2 different gametes. From conception they follow one of two paths, one has the goal of producing sperm, and the other eggs. They don’t all succeed in being able to produce these gametes, but there are no other options, and one can’t become the other.

How someone lives their life is their business. But you aren’t going to turn lead into gold, or fly unaided. These are just simple physical laws you can’t change.

People have a real hard time with that. Denial of objective reality is all the rave now.

That's a nice story. But it is not the whole story.
Here's a paper about a 70 year old man, father of 4, with a uterus and fallopian tubes.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2210261214002685?via%3Dihub

Here's a survey of the many, many ways that people can exist that don't comport with this binary model of sex.

A 46-year-old pregnant woman had visited his clinic at the Royal Melbourne Hospital in Australia to hear the results of an amniocentesis test to screen her baby's chromosomes for abnormalities. The baby was fine — but follow-up tests had revealed something astonishing about the mother. Her body was built of cells from two individuals, probably from twin embryos that had merged in her own mother's womb. And there was more. One set of cells carried two X chromosomes, the complement that typically makes a person female; the other had an X and a Y. Halfway through her fifth decade and pregnant with her third child, the woman learned for the first time that a large part of her body was chromosomally male. “That's kind of science-fiction material for someone who just came in for an amniocentesis,” says James.

Sex redefined - Nature

The idea of two sexes is simplistic. Biologists now think there is a wider spectrum than that.

www.nature.com

P.S. In 1980 we could already turn Bismuth into Gold. It's a thing that can be done. Not impossible. This is reality.

 

[armedoldhippy]

Court reinstates Tennessee ban on care for transgender youth

A Tennessee law prohibiting doctors from providing medical care such as puberty-blockers and gender affirming surgery for transgender minors can go into effect immediately, a U.S. appeals court ruled Saturday.

www.reuters.com

You really gotta love the last line of the article that more or less says, "We may be wrong. But we're still going to let these assholes endanger our youth."

final decision due end of September. who knows what they will do...

 

[armedoldhippy]

Not impossible.

nor cheap. but you are right, transformation IS possible.

 

[Hiddenjems]

Nobody producing sperm has then produced eggs or vice versa.

 

[Hiddenjems]

It’s sad, but if your society doesn’t have boundaries that exclude people, you don’t have a society. Just look at what inclusivity has done for Portland and San Fran.

 

[audiohi]

Nobody producing sperm has then produced eggs or vice versa.

synchronous hermaphrodites

you need to work on your arguments

metal can be turned to gold

some humans can produce both egg and sperm and get pregnant

reality is crazy, huh?

 

[RobFromTX]

final decision due end of September. who knows what they will do...

Maybe they'll decide to just let kids be young confused and irritable? Like they're suppose to be?

 

[Hiddenjems]

synchronous hermaphrodites

you need to work on your arguments

metal can be turned to gold

some humans can produce both egg and sperm and get pregnant

reality is crazy, huh?

No human has produced viable egg and sperm with their singular dna.

 

[Hiddenjems]

Maybe they'll decide to just let kids be young confused and irritable? Like they're suppose to be?

They’d rather predate on their confusion. Unprotected youth are the easiest targets to groom.

And yes, anyone having secret conversations with a child about sex acts is grooming them.

 

[Hiddenjems]

Remember, age of abuse equals age of attraction. That’s how the sickness lives on.

 

[GenghisKush]

I treat everyone with human dignity.

It’s sad, but if your society doesn’t have boundaries that exclude people, you don’t have a society.

How do you propose excluding people from society while respecting their inherent dignity?

I think you can do one, or the other. But not both.

 

[pop_rocks]

@armedoldhippy is actually correct, there are people who are born with both sets of organs
/i did some looking into it before posting si i would know what im talking about and it true

FACTS
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/whats-intersex#:~:text=Intersex is a general term,male” or “female”.
they say they are usually assigned a gender at birth and i guess they just snip off the other parts to fill out the birth certificate
but what about if they made the wrong choice? its like the flip of a coin deciding your fate in life but you were too young to have any say in it
/the more i read the more it aroused my curiosity

so what society do you come from @Hiddenjems
it it some magical place where there are no gays or trans or bi people?
i bet its a wonderful place

 

[Hiddenjems]

How do you propose excluding people from society while respecting their inherent dignity?

I think you can do one, or the other. But not both.

I can care very much about the man outside my home with leprosy without letting him into my home to help him.

 

[Hiddenjems]

aohs is actually correct, there are people who are born with both sets of organs
/i did some looking into it before posting si i would know what im talking about and it true

FACTS
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/whats-intersex#:~:text=Intersex is a general term,male” or “female”.
they say they are usually assigned a gender at birth and i guess they just snip off the other parts to fill out the birth certificate
but what about if they made the wrong choice? its like the flip of a coin deciding your fate in life but you were too young to have any say in it
/the more i read the more it aroused my curiosity

so what society do you come from @Hiddenjems
it it some magical place where there are no gays or trans or bi people?
i bet its a wonderful place

No human has ever been born with both sexual organs fully functional. If so people could reproduce asexually.

 

[GenghisKush]

If so people could reproduce asexually.

Identical twins exist, and are the result of one zygote that spontaneously reproduced into two, asexually.

 

[Hiddenjems]

Identical twins exist, and are the result of one zygote that spontaneously reproduced into two, asexually.

Reproduction is only done by sexually mature members of a species.

If you believe a zygote is a person, then abortion is murder.

 

[pop_rocks]

No human has ever been born with both sexual organs fully functional. If so people could reproduce asexually.

did you read the link? this isnt how i feel about fagits or queers or whom ever we want to bash
its biological facts
science can be weird