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Jericho Mile

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I really think that’s what this is about. Rational people are willing to adjust their approach if they learn something new that cast doubt on what they previously thought. These jokers just want to be right at any cost
Totally what it’s about. Looking to support a cause. If the cause turns out to be unsound and hypocritical…well it’s still their cause. Fuck it.

I wonder if trans people are even aware they have a pot forum army of supporters backing their cause.

How many trans people are on this forum? None.
 

eastcoastjoe

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For trans kids to have good mental health, then yes.
It's not the black and white argument that you make it out to be.

Again, how good will their mental health be when they start having bone loss or heart problems ?

Also, just say you didn’t read the paper. If you had the answer to what I asked you, you would be jumping to throw it in my face
 

eastcoastjoe

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For trans kids to have good mental health, then yes.
It's not the black and white argument that you make it out to be.

Ever met anyone who abused steroids that had a better mental health outcome long term versus natural ? Ever met any who damaged their bodies beyond repair from steroid use and died dude to related illness ? Of course you have , you know every fucking thing
 

Jericho Mile

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For trans kids to have good mental health, then yes.
It's not the black and white argument that you make it out to be.

Trans kids are going to be fucked up no matter what you do for them. That’s the blunt truth.

If saying that makes me a bigot or whatever…so be it. They don’t turn out healthy and happy.
 

Chi13

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Again, how good will their mental health be when they start having bone loss or heart problems ?

Also, just say you didn’t read the paper. If you had the answer to what I asked you, you would be jumping to throw it in my face
It's pretty clear what the study was studying.
 

eastcoastjoe

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Trans kids are going to be fucked up no matter what you do for them. That’s the blunt truth.

If saying that makes me a bigot or whatever…so be it. They don’t turn out healthy and happy.

The truth is, none of these guys can speak on the safety and efficacy of these treatments on minors because it doesn’t exist.
This is the first time in history we allowed doctors to give minors a treatment that essentially shuts down the endocrine system.
 

Chi13

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Trans kids are going to be fucked up no matter what you do for them. That’s the blunt truth.

If saying that makes me a bigot or whatever…so be it. They don’t turn out healthy and happy.
Well no, the evidence is they will lead happier lives with intervention.
 

eastcoastjoe

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Well no, the evidence is they will lead happier lives with intervention.

These guys are a much bigger deal in this arena then that organization you posted

 

eastcoastjoe

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I can't remember the exact question and have to go in a minute.

Was it why did the paper not mention any potential future harms from hormone therapy? If it was, then I've answered. It was a paper about youth mental health.

Safety and efficacy? Nice deflection. I only asked you 3 times. Just say you didn’t read it.
You are another ignorant one who thinks hormone disruption doesn’t affect a persons health beyond mental health ?
 

Jericho Mile

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Well no, the evidence is they will lead happier lives with intervention.
Evidence? Come on man. How many trans people do you know? I mean in life. Not reading some shit on your computer. Drugging people up constantly to alter their biological chemistry is not sound. You can quote whatever study you want.

I’ve posted this before in this thread but here again is my friend…and a legend in the trans world. Deceased now.

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I worked with April back in the early 90’s. A bold person. She went through some shit. The ultimate drama queen.
 

Jericho Mile

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The truth is, none of these guys can speak on the safety and efficacy of these treatments on minors because it doesn’t exist.
This is the first time in history we allowed doctors to give minors a treatment that essentially shuts down the endocrine system.

It’s crazy stuff. We’ve been medicating kids for decades now for just about anything beyond a skinned up knee. Has it helped the kids? And now this stuff…somebody needs to reel these doctors and pharmaceutical companies in. I know it’s not going to happen but damn it’s corrupt.
 

eastcoastjoe

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It’s crazy stuff. We’ve been medicating kids for decades now for just about anything beyond a skinned up knee. Has it helped the kids? And now this stuff…somebody needs to reel these doctors and pharmaceutical companies in. I know it’s not going to happen but damn it’s corrupt.

What upsets me is guys that advocate for it , like the ones in this thread, they don’t even know why it’s a bad idea.
Try having a deeper conversation about it and you can see the intelligence level.
 

Jericho Mile

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What upsets me is guys that advocate for it , like the ones in this thread, they don’t even know why it’s a bad idea.
Try having a deeper conversation about it and you can see the intelligence level.
I’m jaded. I knew trans people 30some years ago before “trans rights” became a darling of the social justice warriors. Most of these posters only support it because they are instructed to support the cause. It represents being open minded humanitarians. Soft touches.

I know the next thing will come along and they will forget this cause. It’s political. Nothing but. Covid vaccinations and human caused climate change…same thing…instructed to get on board…or else they’re fascist….enemies of free thought and compassion. 😂

The internet man. You can be anything you’re told to be.
 

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