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Gender dysphoria and the trans movement.

mean mr.mustard

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That harm occurs when people are not allowed to be themselves is my point. Inclusion of genital mutilation is not a tool against harm but to the contrary. Genital mutilation is serious, irreversable harm that also contribute to astronomical suicide rates in that group.

Promoting such a travesty while calling me racist and bigot for standing up against it really is true bigotry. Your accusations against me have no substance, they’re simple ad hominem attacks.

Abolishing procedures some consider necessary to be themselves is bigotry at least...

Doing so out of a sense of preventive protection is on par with prohibition.

Claiming that there is no such thing as a transgender person has suggested that you are not aware of any of the things that a transgender person might deal with.

Referring to surgery as mutilation is not winning you points for empathy or understanding.

I believe that the facts speak for themselves.
 

Chi13

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That harm occurs when people are not allowed to be themselves is my point. Inclusion of genital mutilation is not a tool against harm but to the contrary. Genital mutilation is serious, irreversable harm that also contribute to astronomical suicide rates in that group.

Promoting such a travesty while calling me racist and bigot for standing up against it really is true bigotry. Your accusations against me have no substance, they’re simple ad hominem attacks.
What astronomical suicide rates are you referring to? Your concern for the transgender community is touching though.

In updated treatment guidelines issued last year, the World Professional Association for Transgender Health said evidence of later regret is scant, but that patients should be told about the possibility during psychological counseling.

Dutch research from several years ago found no evidence of regret in transgender adults who had comprehensive psychological evaluations in childhood before undergoing puberty blockers and hormone treatment.

Some studies suggest that rates of regret have declined over the years as patient selection and treatment methods have improved. In a review of 27 studies involving almost 8,000 teens and adults who had transgender surgeries, mostly in Europe, the U.S and Canada, 1% on average expressed regret. For some, regret was temporary, but a small number went on to have detransitioning or reversal surgeries, the 2021 review said.
 

entropical

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Abolishing procedures some consider necessary to be themselves is bigotry at least...

Doing so out of a sense of preventive protection is on par with prohibition.

Claiming that there is no such thing as a transgender person has suggested that you are not aware of any of the things that a transgender person might deal with.

Referring to surgery as mutilation is not winning you points for empathy or understanding.

I believe that the facts speak for themselves.
Facts: math is racist + ”John can not be himself unless his balls are cut off, and Jane can not be herself unless her tits are cut off”.

 

entropical

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What astronomical suicide rates are you referring to? Your concern for the transgender community is touching though.

In updated treatment guidelines issued last year, the World Professional Association for Transgender Health said evidence of later regret is scant, but that patients should be told about the possibility during psychological counseling.

Dutch research from several years ago found no evidence of regret in transgender adults who had comprehensive psychological evaluations in childhood before undergoing puberty blockers and hormone treatment.

Some studies suggest that rates of regret have declined over the years as patient selection and treatment methods have improved. In a review of 27 studies involving almost 8,000 teens and adults who had transgender surgeries, mostly in Europe, the U.S and Canada, 1% on average expressed regret. For some, regret was temporary, but a small number went on to have detransitioning or reversal surgeries, the 2021 review said.
I have zero concerns for social constructs, my concern is for human beings and humanity as a whole. Luckily, even the most degenerate promoters now put breaks on the Mengele experiments.

 

mean mr.mustard

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I have zero concerns for social constructs, my concern is for human beings and humanity as a whole.

If that's true then just be reassured that humans will continue to exist regardless of the amount of liberty they experience...

And let people be people the way they want to.

Maybe start considering social constructs...
 

audiohi

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Frosty Nuggets

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You can paint an apple orange, it doesn't make it an orange.
You can tar and feather a cow, it doesn't make it a chicken.
You can cut the penis off a man, it doesn't make it a woman.
 

Chi13

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I have zero concerns for social constructs, my concern is for human beings and humanity as a whole. Luckily, even the most degenerate promoters now put breaks on the Mengele experiments.

Everything social is a social construct, religion, politics, gender. "Degenerate" is a prime example of a social construct, and completely subjective. Some think that cannabis users are degenerates.
Some degenerates even like to wear Nazi uniforms
 
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