Gender dysphoria and the trans movement.

[Hiddenjems]

These seem to be opposing positions...

How? Parents can’t consent to a procedure that isn’t available.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Better yet, minors can’t consent to something they can’t understand the consequences of. That’s why they can’t enter in to legal contracts.

Parents that consent to exposing a minor child to anything that will harm them, is the classic definition of abuse.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Leave parents and kids alone. Arrest the doctors doing the quackery.

In this case, the procedure is suggesed to be made illegal.

Parents can’t consent to cutting working arms and legs off their kid. No surgeon will do the procedure.

In this case there is no reason to make a procedure illegal.

 

[pop_rocks]

Only if they’re adults. The issue here is children being given control over mutilation of their body.

they arent , minors need their parents consent and even them im sure there is a lot of counseling before a dr would perform such an operation

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Perhaps the focus on control of others' bodies is a distraction from things that might actually affect us....

 

[eastcoastjoe]

they arent , minors need their parents consent and even them im sure there is a lot of counseling before a dr would perform such an operation

How come parents can’t consent to a minor child having six with an adult ? Or using drugs ? Alcohol ?

 

[eastcoastjoe]

In this case, the procedure is suggesed to be made illegal.



In this case there is no reason to make a procedure illegal.

Unavailable for minors. Very big difference.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Perhaps the focus on control of others' bodies is a distraction from things that might actually affect us....

The attack on our youth is a very real threat.

 

[pop_rocks]

How come parents can’t consent to a minor child having six with an adult ? Or using drugs ? Alcohol ?

oh they do, you just dident run with the right crowd as a kid
but we are talking a medical/ mental health thing here not just partying with the kiddos
i knew this lady who had this autistic kid and she would give him a gummy at night to keep him calm and help him sleep
she was a nice lady and just wanted what was best for her kid
she did not like the way the pills he was told to take effected him so she found her own way to helping him
my dad gave me my first sip of beer when i was a wee baby

 

[eastcoastjoe]

oh they do, you just dident run with the right crowd as a kid
but we are talking a medical/ mental health thing here not just partying with the kiddos
i knew this lady who had this autistic kid and she would give him a gummy at night to keep him calm and help him sleep
she was a nice lady and just wanted what was best for her kid
she did not like the way the pills he was told to take effected him so she found her own way to helping him
my dad gave me my first sip of beer when i was a wee baby

Your missing the point. Parents can’t LEGALLY CONSENT to things that would harm a child. If they do it’s abuse. This should be no different.
We’re talking minors here. Not adults.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

oh they do, you just dident run with the right crowd as a kid
but we are talking a medical/ mental health thing here not just partying with the kiddos
i knew this lady who had this autistic kid and she would give him a gummy at night to keep him calm and help him sleep
she was a nice lady and just wanted what was best for her kid
she did not like the way the pills he was told to take effected him so she found her own way to helping him
my dad gave me my first sip of beer when i was a wee baby

That sounds suspiciously like a free country.

If you have any names we need to fix the problems facing our youth.

PS that means parents and doctors.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

That sounds suspiciously like a free country.

If you have any names we need to fix the problems facing our youth.

PS that means parents and doctors.

Put your child’s health at risk because you think it’s your legal right. Sounds legit

 

[pop_rocks]

Your missing the point. Parents can’t LEGALLY CONSENT to things that would harm a child. If they do it’s abuse. This should be no different.
We’re talking minors here. Not adults.

i thought this thread was about tamales

isnt the point of this thread about parents providing health care for their children
maybe you agree with it and maybe you dont, but that dosent make it wrong

both examples i gave were of children being given "drugs" by adults
if(when) my dad caught me sneaking his beers there was hell to pay, but if he let me take a sip and i wasnt acting like a fool it was all good
my friend said the meds they gave her kid made him into a zombie and she dident like to see him like that
even in librulzz california minors are not allowed to consume cannabis products, but she was doing what she thought was in her kids best interest

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Name names.

It's for the children.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

i thought this thread was about tamales

isnt the point of this thread about parents providing health care for their children
maybe you agree with it and maybe you dont, but that dosent make it wrong

both examples i gave were of children being given "drugs" by adults
if(when) my dad caught me sneaking his beers there was hell to pay, but if he let me take a sip and i wasnt acting like a fool it was all good
my friend said the meds they gave her kid made him into a zombie and she dident like to see him like that
even in librulzz california minors are not allowed to consume cannabis products, but she was doing what she thought was in her kids best interest

i thought this thread was about tamales

isnt the point of this thread about parents providing health care for their children
maybe you agree with it and maybe you dont, but that dosent make it wrong

both examples i gave were of children being given "drugs" by adults
if(when) my dad caught me sneaking his beers there was hell to pay, but if he let me take a sip and i wasnt acting like a fool it was all good
my friend said the meds they gave her kid made him into a zombie and she dident like to see him like that
even in librulzz california minors are not allowed to consume cannabis products, but she was doing what she thought was in her kids best interest

So to be clear, you think a sip of beer is about the same as a kid mutilating they’re genitals ? Or taking hormone blockers that cause irreversible damage to the body ?

Would mom and dad allow you to take steroids ? What about shoot heroin ?

 

[eastcoastjoe]

isnt the point of this thread about parents providing health care for their children

Its about gender dysphoria. At this point it’s debatable about how it’s treated. Most Americans disagree with allowing minors to access hormone blockers or have sex changes.

You have any idea of the negative health effects of shutting down hormonal pathways? If not you should consider reading about it and tell me if you still think it’s cool to be giving these medicines to children

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Name names.

It's for the children.

Child abuser / pedophile

 

[Hiddenjems]

How come parents can’t consent to a minor child having six with an adult ? Or using drugs ? Alcohol ?

Don’t ask these questions that are a logical extension of their position.

Remember these folks believed Covid vaccines would stop infection and transmission.

 

[Hiddenjems]

In this case, the procedure is suggesed to be made illegal.



In this case there is no reason to make a procedure illegal.

It be is already illegal, both should be.

But you go ahead and continue to believe that a kid and their parents can sexually mutilate the child so your favored identity group grows.

 

[Hiddenjems]

In this case, the procedure is suggesed to be made illegal.



In this case there is no reason to make a procedure illegal.

Do you support this being done to a minor?