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Sampas92

Just newbin
Hi alice thanks for stoping by
Well they dont seem like bananas, it seems that she just want to burst in growth but looks strange, different, i dunno
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Killer, this one is particularly dark green, the top leafs look more pale but i also been powering up the light incrementaly and is now at 70% wich pale her a bit and gave a her a few bronze spots here and there, the less smelly
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Maza, like the killer, but not so darkgreen, but paler at the tops, the leaf fingers curling up and inside and a few spots here and there, the more smelly from the 3
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Peace :tiphat:
 

exploziv

pure dynamite
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It's probably stress induced. Plant trying to get pregnant and throws out new growth. Its no problem but you should only judge readyness by older trichomes, as the new ones will be behind. And ofc, smoking quality might be less because of the new growth.
 

gizmo666

Active member
hey sampas
exploziv beat me to it
when the plant matures it tends to throw out more fresh pistols in the hope of germinating
i've had this happen a few times but didn't harm the smoke for me
your plants are looking excellent :good:
 

aliceklar

Well-known member
Hi alice thanks for stoping by
Well they dont seem like bananas, it seems that she just want to burst in growth but looks strange, different, i dunno

Those don't look like male flowers to me either. :smoke: Like Gizmo says, I reckon she is just putting on a final push in the hope of catching some stray pollen.
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
Indeed it was new growth, thank you pips :good:
Iv been uping the power of the light in these last days, slowly, it is around 90%, 50cm distance tho, tops getting clearer and leafs more crips and curled up too

Killer
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Peace :tiphat:
 

exploziv

pure dynamite
Administrator
Veteran
looking good man! dial your things a bit better and you'll be having great success in the future! :lurk:
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
Thanks to you all, that ego boost feels good after some bumps along the road, but also all of this wasnt possible without everyone,thanks :thank you:

some purple hues on maza and killer leafs, it showed at the 3rd day with the light at 90%. The killer is only getting water and the maza stil a bit of calmag, both got mycos today to see if it helps somehow in these last times
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The rocky seems growing thicker now, the mag def is bigger, top leafs are lighter but she is still going strong, somehow i dont like her, the buds look so leafy, pain in the ass will be
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Peace :tiphat:
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
With the light at 90% the aluminium fins measure 49.5/50c, the driver at 35.5, seems nice, like others have done, i think im going to add a pc fan on it to push down some warm air to help heating the grow

The Rocky is fading hard, and all of them want mg, the rocky one being the worst the maza in second and the killer last, this one is purpling, looks nice but is her saying is not happy, im not stressed about it but she seems that is staled somehow
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Also i was living stupidily in the red line and just yesterday i instaled the carbon filter, 1st time using one and im suprised how it lowered the noise of the extractor and how in 20 m i stoped smelling whatsoever and now i can even smell the girls better when i open the tent.
Now i just need to dial this and after seeing how the rh was affected and after talking to a friend, i really need to buy something that i want since i started growing but is kinda expensive, a dehuey, if not, the winter will be a disaster

Peace :tiphat:
 

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Active member
Wow awesome buds:wave:


Also i was living stupidily in the red line and just yesterday i instaled the carbon filter, 1st time using one and im suprised how it lowered the noise of the extractor and how in 20 m i stoped smelling whatsoever and now i can even smell the girls better when i open the tent.
Yass this is the way

Now i just need to dial this and after seeing how the rh was affected and after talking to a friend, i really need to buy something that i want since i started growing but is kinda expensive, a dehuey, if not, the winter will be a disaster

Peace :tiphat:
The dehumidifier will also be a life changer.. you will not regret the $.. I have a delonghi and Phillips
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
Wow awesome buds:wave:



Yass this is the way


The dehumidifier will also be a life changer.. you will not regret the $.. I have a delonghi and Phillips

Hi Mr. Dots :wave:

Yes, i feel that way since i started growing due to where i live, either the genetics are very resistent to mold like an bangi haze or i need a dehuey, at least in winter because in the summer is the oposite and i need the humi, but that is covered on the cheap, it would be nice to have a dehuey on the cheap too :D

Iv looked at those Delonghi, pricey as fuck, but im looking to something cheaper around 150 or something like it, just 12 or 15l that could handle 15 or 20m3, but im still thinking about 40% since in winter time the rh here spikes to 85 and 90 and the room where the grow is have the window always open, i cant have it any other way.

Also i remembered in your thread suggesting me growing in coco for better results in everyway, even more in leds, others too, im tempted, very, and have a good bro here that is helping me understand how to water feed and mix nutrients at different ratios etc etc, maybe it will take one year to transit because of capital due to everything need it to do it properly, but im very tempted :D

Thanks for stoping by

peace :tiphat:
 

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Active member
Hi Mr. Dots


Yes, i feel that way since i started growing due to where i live, either the genetics are very resistent to mold like an bangi haze or i need a dehuey, at least in winter because in the summer is the oposite and i need the humi, but that is covered on the cheap, it would be nice to have a dehuey on the cheap too
I know what you're saying man, a bandaid for the issue

Iv looked at those Delonghi, pricey as fuck, but im looking to something cheaper around 150 or something like it, just 12 or 15l that could handle 15 or 20m3, but im still thinking about 40% since in winter time the rh here spikes to 85 and 90 and the room where the grow is have the window always open, i cant have it any other way.
I shoud have mentioned this part- I got both at less then 50% of new price because they were pre-owned, I got them off a site called gumtree which is something like Craigslist or fb marketplace. The Philips is 25L and has a hepa filter air purifier.. works good but in my case is supplemented by the split system AC which runs 24/7. I prefer a good brand and overkill for the situation for peace of mind, so long as I can fit the amps onto the circuit/s.

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The delonghi I use for the next room adjacent to the garden, because when it's cold outside yet warm inside from the garden I get hella moisture on the ceilings and walls..
410watts on this one!:mad:
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Also i remembered in your thread suggesting me growing in coco for better results in everyway, even more in leds, others too, im tempted, very, and have a good bro here that is helping me understand how to water feed and mix nutrients at different ratios etc etc, maybe it will take one year to transit because of capital due to everything need it to do it properly, but im very tempted :D

Thanks for stoping by

peace
Bro lately im feeding once a day in maybe less then 3 liters of coco and still getting big buds..
Hmm to think what you need..
a good ph/ec meter combo ~ which you just leave in the nutrient tank permanently (once you know your ratio due to your water source it becomes routine, except for when your water chemistry changes throughout the year/seasons..
Simple A+B nutrients
pH up + down..
I also use a silica..
a bag of coco..
and perhaps that's it..unless someone else can think of something..?

You're welcome , thanks for the hospitality! :ying:
 
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Sampas92

Just newbin
The delonghi I use for the next room adjacent to the garden, because when it's cold outside yet warm inside from the garden I get hella moisture on the ceilings and walls..
410watts on this one!:mad:


Bro lately im feeding once a day in maybe less then 3 liters of coco and still getting big buds..
Hmm to think what you need..
a good ph/ec meter combo ~ which you just leave in the nutrient tank permanently (once you know your ratio due to your water source it becomes routine, except for when your water chemistry changes throughout the year/seasons..
Simple A+B nutrients
pH up + down..
I also use a silica..
a bag of coco..
and perhaps that's it..unless someone else can think of something..?

You're welcome , thanks for the hospitality! :ying:

Mr. Dots thanks on the suggestions and showing the details on the dehumi, i liked it because it says how much it dehumifies per hour, also about everything else you wrote and the good heart.

I get what you saying about moisture in the walls, thats our winter, you feel the humidity everywhere by touch, woods get larger, you can just feel it, it amazes me thats why i am thinking instead of one for 15m3, getting one more powerfull, a bit like you, overkill to have some peace of mind.

Sorry to ask you, iv seen your threads even if i havent follow them in the last weeks, but your plants didnt look that tiny (pics may get me wrong) and i say this because in 3l of coco i would expect a bunch of little plants or more waterings per day if they are bigger, 3, 4 times a day, some guys even more, so what im asking you if you grow in SOG or you mix anything in the coco the hold the moisture content, like perlite or vermiculite or even peat?
Btw do you inoculate the coco with anything?
Also any addictives that you like to use if you wouldnt mind sharing?

I was affraid of someone saying a phec continuous combo because they are expensive, more expensive than the dehueys iv been seeing.
I was about to buy and ec pen and an ph pen, both from Adwa, the ad11 model and the ad32 model, that way both wuuld be under 80€ instead of the 180+ of the continuous combo.
Would you think is imperative for all the beneficts or could i get by with the pens?
I cant make the switch spending so much in those continuous combos for now, i also need to buy the ferts, pumps, hoses and the dehuey, all of that combined its fucked up, i know its not worth to start something with shity equipment but still....
It would be perfect that of these ones on Ali that are around 60~80€ would be worth the money, maybe i could order it and pretend its broken and get the money back (again) :D
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Regarding the nutrients iv been looking at dry ferts, and learn about ferts, nutrients and what not to calculate the ratios etc etc etc etc, but if not i would go Canna i think, but the dry ones seems very worth the money for what they seem to last wich in a medium long term is good.

The bag of coco i have and the ph down, the silica i have it from Grotek, the up is easy to get and cheap, is "not important", for me important now, is learn the best i can everything regarding nutrients, read a lot of coco grows, and see the best and cheapest way to measure the ec and the ph, continuously or not.
Oh, and the dehuey, thats the top priority, i know it even before starting with SILS, even tho i never got one.

Btw, about the hospitality, im just trying to give back what i get from all of you guys that are here before me so thank you too :smoke out:

Sorry for the long post :D

Peace :tiphat:
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
The rh in the tent still remains in the high 50's.
The Killer and the Maza have been running on the drier side, the Rocky not so much but she is still pushing new growth. The Killer i think is just ripening(?), she seems that almost dont drink anything, so im playing with mold now.
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Peace :tiphat:
 

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Sorry to ask you, iv seen your threads even if i havent follow them in the last weeks, but your plants didnt look that tiny (pics may get me wrong) and i say this because in 3l of coco i would expect a bunch of little plants or more waterings per day if they are bigger, 3, 4 times a day, some guys even more, so what im asking you if you grow in SOG or you mix anything in the coco the hold the moisture content, like perlite or vermiculite or even peat?

Bro I have plants 140cm tall from the floor.. I can only get to the garden once a day atm.. I water two or three of this 375ml cup =750ml to 1125ml total with a small amount of run-off if any..
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(I don't advise 'no run-off' but if you have a large garden and no floor drain then what can you do?.. adjust EC levels to account for the salt build-up and/or take plants out to flush at 3 weeks and 6 weeks.. etc)

Also I have gotten my biggest yields and most terpy potent plants doing no run-off and what some would consider over-fed..

Amending with perlite or similar does give you a much more pure hydroponic experience, best used with a dripper timer.. but for me it's too obvious to dispose of when you can send coco to the compost without suspicion.
With watering volume and frequency remember its not the same all the way through, it ramps up then slows down after week 6.. also some cultivars are thirsting then others. Another thing to consider is VPD .. as mentioned by unnamedmike ..setting my dehuey to 60% extends the time between waterings considerably compared to 50% humidity.

Btw do you inoculate the coco with anything?
Also any addictives that you like to use if you wouldnt mind sharing?
Checkout Mike's thread as he innoculates..
I have used Trichoderma harzianum, Trichoderma lignorum and Trichoderma koningii, but because it has a limited shelf life (keeping it in the fridge) I haven't gotten around to replacing it after it ran out (plus I sent some to my friend in the USA:D
Besides that I use:
aloe Vera
fish/kelp/fulvic
humic
aminos
yucca..
Only quarter strength and once a week or every 2 weeks.. foliar and root drench.. in veg and maybe early flower.. potent stuff and less is more

I was affraid of someone saying a phec continuous combo because they are expensive, more expensive than the dehueys iv been seeing.
I was about to buy and ec pen and an ph pen, both from Adwa, the ad11 model and the ad32 model, that way both wuuld be under 80€ instead of the 180+ of the continuous combo.
Would you think is imperative for all the beneficts or could i get by with the pens?
I cant make the switch spending so much in those continuous combos for now, i also need to buy the ferts, pumps, hoses and the dehuey, all of that combined its fucked up, i know its not worth to start something with shity equipment but still....
It would be perfect that of these ones on Ali that are around 60~80€ would be worth the money, maybe i could order it and pretend its broken and get the money back (again) :D
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Lol.. once I bought T5 flouros and took the ballasts out and returned them:spank:
I've used truncheon and pH pen good ones not cheap brands.. and when compared to the combo meter it was not near accurate.. so that's my experience. I wouldn't use them again.
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Regarding the nutrients iv been looking at dry ferts, and learn about ferts, nutrients and what not to calculate the ratios etc etc etc etc, but if not i would go Canna i think, but the dry ones seems very worth the money for what they seem to last wich in a medium long term is good.
This is the way and when you learn then come teach me:tongue:.. I got halfway down the rabbit hole of how to calculate and began searching up the raw supplies but I never finished the mission..:hide: Right now I use house & garden because its half the price and twice as concentrated as Canna..


The bag of coco i have and the ph down, the silica i have it from Grotek, the up is easy to get and cheap, is "not important", for me important now, is learn the best i can everything regarding nutrients, read a lot of coco grows, and see the best and cheapest way to measure the ec and the ph, continuously or not.
Oh, and the dehuey, thats the top priority, i know it even before starting with SILS, even tho i never got one.

Ps that's potassium silicate, I moved on to mono-silicic acid.. for a couple reasons..

Btw, about the hospitality, im just trying to give back what i get from all of you guys that are here before me so thank you too :smoke out:
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Sorry for the long post :D
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Peace :tiphat:
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No worries man I'm always learning too.. Not sure that Im very helpful but for personal experience because everyone's is different and there's more them one way to skin a cat:pet the cat:

pps I've been up at 70% rh with huge buds.. scary to say the least hehe, best to keep a close eye and don't get too greedy if harvest is needed.. best to water early in light cycle and not too much.
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
Yooo bro, Mr. Dots, thanks.

No place to drain the water, i get it, adapting to our specific conditions and make it work, i get it.

Yeah i know vpd plays a role in how much the medium lost or absorve moisture, after all i almost saturated a coco pot with my humidifier :and thanks on the tip of mike thread, will check it if didnt untill now, wich i dont remember :D

Aloe i have it around where i live i can just remove a leaf and blend the gel, thanks on sharing your secrets :D

Dont beat me by making fraud with Aliexpress, its very tempting :shucks: i get it about you said about the truncheon pens and the continuous combo, but if i switch i will get the pens to help regarding € initially and get by with them and then in the future upgrade, like you going no run off to adapt to your specific conditions i think i need to do it the same regarding the pens.

Bro you can bet that if i do it i will teach you and all the others, it would be an honour to teach any of ypu anything instead of copying, oh and thanks on the tip on the house & garden :Tiphat:

I dunno the reasons on the silicon acid but i will read about it and figure it out.

Of course your helpfull bro dont joke about it :smoke out:

The rh is not that high, its a passing by storm so its different, never crossed the 62% mark until now.

Peace and thanks bro :tiphat:
 

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