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From start of cloning to harvest 13 week scrog

Ichabod Crane

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Where are the pics lol?

I think I may have to make the plunge and pick up 4 of those rooter pots. With the shipping they will come to about $20, about $5 a piece. Seems expensive, but I will only need one package so I don't know.

You pay your $5, mine are 20 cents and I have a bucket full to use.



I dont have any pictures of the scrog so I will post this one. It is a Pennywise clone at 20 days from the start of cloning. The clone is 32 inches. How long will it take for a cutting to get to 32 inches? I will answer. FOREVER.

 

Bobbo4200

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I did not see Robusto's pic...

I will have to check the beginning of the thread on how to construct a DIY rooter pot...
 

Bobbo4200

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Thanks Crane.

Yeah I just found that thread this morning, thanks again.

One thing I am wondering is if the air layering will work for me. I do not keep mother's, and usually just cut the clone right before-or a few weeks into flower. Now to do the air layering, that means I would have to sacrifice a nice-pretty large branch that I would normally use in flower for bud. So I don't really know...

Thanks for the input
 

Ichabod Crane

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Thanks Crane.

Yeah I just found that thread this morning, thanks again.

One thing I am wondering is if the air layering will work for me. I do not keep mother's, and usually just cut the clone right before-or a few weeks into flower. Now to do the air layering, that means I would have to sacrifice a nice-pretty large branch that I would normally use in flower for bud. So I don't really know...

Thanks for the input

If you do this the clone may grow to big by the time it gets to flower. The air layered clone will be over a month ahead of the clone from a cutting. Of course you could cut some of that growth off for the next clone.
 

Top.Shelf

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That's looking really nice bro! Have you got a pic of the death star from your vert grow at around the same age? Week6...
 

Ichabod Crane

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Went in to water today. I had to remove some fans again. Pulled about 3/4 of a gallon of fan leaves.



Now I want to very clear here. I dont want people losing top colas to mold by pulling fans. When you pull a fan leaf you must get the entire leaf stem back to the branch if it is in a bud, or the buds are close. It has been my experience that if you dont do this the bud will grow up around the leaf stem. Once it does that the stem falls off and molds inside the bud. Then that mold will attack the buds around the leaf stem.

Make sure you get the entire leaf stem when pulling fans that will be covered or are covered by a bud.

Now here is a picture of the scrog screen after fan leaf removal. It is day 47 of flower. There are 23 days left till drying starts.

 

Miraculous Meds

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Thanks Crane.

Yeah I just found that thread this morning, thanks again.

One thing I am wondering is if the air layering will work for me. I do not keep mother's, and usually just cut the clone right before-or a few weeks into flower. Now to do the air layering, that means I would have to sacrifice a nice-pretty large branch that I would normally use in flower for bud. So I don't really know...

Thanks for the input

That's what I plan on doing. Inevitably u will have a nice branch on bottom or the back side of the plant, depending on ur grow style, that usually has to be cut do to it not making into the sweet spot of the canopy. I know with my old style like ic's vert thread, I always had nice hearty branches that wanted to grow the opposite way from the bulb. they would make excellent air layering starts.
 

Ichabod Crane

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It is day 49 of flower so you know what that means. First is a picture of some leaves I trimmed yesterday. They were under the screen and in the way when I water. So they went.

Also for those keeping track yesterday I added a half teaspoon of MKP to their water. So I think it is 2.5 teaspoons added so far. I did not add molasses this feed though.

And the picture.



I know big fricking deal show the bud shots right. Well you will have to weight. The next two shots are of the stem of the front left Deathstar. One is a marker and the other is a bottle cap. Remember the stem was in that bottle cap a little over seven weeks ago.





Now are the bud shots. Sorry about the lines. I had to go check on one of my patients. His wife was worried. So I didnt get back till lights on. He will be seeing the doctor tomorrow. Hope he is ok. He cant keep a thought, jumping from thing to thing.

So now the pictures. First is the Deathstar bud we have been following.



Next is the Bruce Banner #3 bud we have been following.



The Bruce Banner seems to have slowed down much more than the Deathstar. The Deathstar just keeps chugging along.

I didnt get a full canopy shot. Will try to get one tomorrow before lights on.

One thing I have noticed is a small gap between the top buds on most stems. The buds are nice and full just have a gap. The big Deathstar cola we have been following is closer to the light than most and is tighter. I assume that it is because the light is up higher than it should be. It is about 22-24 inches from most buds.
 

packerfan79

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Mr. Crane, I run hempys also. I have followed your threads. I wanted to ask you why you keep a couple of inches of the floor dry on top of the coco? No judgment just interested me
 

Ichabod Crane

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Mr. Crane, I run hempys also. I have followed your threads. I wanted to ask you why you keep a couple of inches of the floor dry on top of the coco? No judgment just interested me

It serves a couple of purposes.

The first is as a mulch. It will keep the coco from drying out as quick.

The second is that it helps me judge how fast a plant is drinking. When it is wet it is tan. When it dries out it is white. Just by walking in a room I can tell if the plants need to be watered. There is no guessing if it is dry or not. I have had coco that looks wet but was dry.

Another thing is the plants love it. If you grow in it you will see the roots go crazy in it. Even when it is on the top. You will get more roots in that top couple inches than the 4 to 5 inches below it.

It is DE and DE kills bugs when dry. It sucks the wax off of the bug and they dehydrate and die.

I am sure there are more but those are the ones I remember right now.

Oh one more thing. It does not float. Therefore when you water you dont disturb the new roots growing near the surface.

You can see why I like it even if I cant remember every reason why I use it.
 

Bobbo4200

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Hey Crane,
Going off topic of the air layering, but could you post what you guys are talking about that goes on the surface of the coco? I am interested. Thank you
 

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