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Frisian Dew in the Big Greenhouse
- Thread starter chak-ra
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You know... it could all be so simple. Just work as a CSC with trustworthy growers who've paid their dues and know how to grow quality bud.
So in fact, it is so easy the way we do it, that if everybody else was growing in the way we are doing (big plants, all organic (greenhouse or garden preferred) , there wouldn't be a problem.
Easiest is to make sure every plant yields at least as much as the average 4 monthly consumption per average member. That way, no problems occur.
And if you have really good growers, you might be able to produce 1 plant for 3-4 members (quantity-wise) so you have another 3-4 membership declarations to support Mother plants or a genetic library.
Also, that way some of the smaller (indoor) growers are able to put in more plants (without the overall loss of quantity for the club). That way beginning growers (if there are any who want to learn it and partake in the club) aren't pushed to make big quantities. Better if they learn how to grow quality first. So when their first harvest of (for example) 16 plants fails, no harm done to the club.
In the current system however, it is more like domino's... When one falls, all other will tumble right down.
Sometimes I really do think Cannabis can make some people go insane (and I don't mean that in any good way) and schizofrenic.
Went back to the greenhouse today. All of the Frisians are fully in to flowering! Will post pictures later on!
Cheers
You know... it could all be so simple. Just work as a CSC with trustworthy growers who've paid their dues and know how to grow quality bud.
So in fact, it is so easy the way we do it, that if everybody else was growing in the way we are doing (big plants, all organic (greenhouse or garden preferred) , there wouldn't be a problem.
Easiest is to make sure every plant yields at least as much as the average 4 monthly consumption per average member. That way, no problems occur.
And if you have really good growers, you might be able to produce 1 plant for 3-4 members (quantity-wise) so you have another 3-4 membership declarations to support Mother plants or a genetic library.
Also, that way some of the smaller (indoor) growers are able to put in more plants (without the overall loss of quantity for the club). That way beginning growers (if there are any who want to learn it and partake in the club) aren't pushed to make big quantities. Better if they learn how to grow quality first. So when their first harvest of (for example) 16 plants fails, no harm done to the club.
In the current system however, it is more like domino's... When one falls, all other will tumble right down.
Sometimes I really do think Cannabis can make some people go insane (and I don't mean that in any good way) and schizofrenic.
Went back to the greenhouse today. All of the Frisians are fully in to flowering! Will post pictures later on!
Cheers
bonghopper
Active member
Monster plants, glad to hear they're flowering for you,
It was mentioned that clover was to be sown under the plants as a ground cover. I highly recommend this. As you say, you're doing a full soil organic grow. The root growth from clover in the paths will activate the soil and hold in water. It will overwinter happily in the greenhouse, and can be clipped/mowed back in spring. Compost can be just dumped on top of clover after its cut back and ganga planted straight into, no need to turn it in, their root systems wont compete.
Dwarf white clover (Trifolium Repens) for 10years
Yellow Trefoil (Medicago Lupulina) for 2/3 years
2-4g per m2
I learned this technique from no dig fruit & veg growers. It pains me to see huge outdoor grows in California and similar warm climates with huge amounts of imported soil with bare scorched earth in between the plants when the real soil if properly nourished and covered, has infinitely more room for root mass and nutrient reserves.
Just look at Kangativas Grows... Organic, and right in properly nourished soil.
Free Kangativa!
There is a reservoir of real soil in that glasshouse, the more alive it is, the bigger and better flavour your flowers.
It was mentioned that clover was to be sown under the plants as a ground cover. I highly recommend this. As you say, you're doing a full soil organic grow. The root growth from clover in the paths will activate the soil and hold in water. It will overwinter happily in the greenhouse, and can be clipped/mowed back in spring. Compost can be just dumped on top of clover after its cut back and ganga planted straight into, no need to turn it in, their root systems wont compete.
Dwarf white clover (Trifolium Repens) for 10years
Yellow Trefoil (Medicago Lupulina) for 2/3 years
2-4g per m2
I learned this technique from no dig fruit & veg growers. It pains me to see huge outdoor grows in California and similar warm climates with huge amounts of imported soil with bare scorched earth in between the plants when the real soil if properly nourished and covered, has infinitely more room for root mass and nutrient reserves.
Just look at Kangativas Grows... Organic, and right in properly nourished soil.
Free Kangativa!
There is a reservoir of real soil in that glasshouse, the more alive it is, the bigger and better flavour your flowers.
thats a very understandable amount of medicine per head per year....
1g a day is very reasonable .......if u dont have to pay for it...hehe
NICE show !!!
gd
You are absolutely right. We wanted to do the clover, but we had to much work getting everything in order. We have sown clover in a different tray in the greenhouse. That way we can put that in the holes when the plants go out. Preparations for next year will start in december.
Good tips man! Keep 'em coming!
Grtz
So Flowering started on all Frisans.
Number 9 was the first to show flowering, and is now the first to produce visible trichomes.
If there's any color in the Frisians, it will appear over the next few weeks.
The biggest ones have reached the top of the greenhouse. Next week I will punish them for doing that by super cropping the heighest branches. (yes, that late still super cropping when needed)
The fungus-like disease of one of the Frisians appears to have gone away. Can't find it no more and the branched that were infected seem to have recovered nicely.
So far so good.
Now it's like 5-6 weeks of constant training and supporting branches. Not gonna be easy, I can tell you that.
We'll get some more fans soon to make sure we have optimal air circulation in flowering (important!)
Also, the CBD-enriched strains are doing just fine. They are very thirsty and show a good growth. Don't show signs of preflower yet, which is good.
Number 9 was the first to show flowering, and is now the first to produce visible trichomes.
If there's any color in the Frisians, it will appear over the next few weeks.
The biggest ones have reached the top of the greenhouse. Next week I will punish them for doing that by super cropping the heighest branches. (yes, that late still super cropping when needed)
The fungus-like disease of one of the Frisians appears to have gone away. Can't find it no more and the branched that were infected seem to have recovered nicely.
So far so good.
Now it's like 5-6 weeks of constant training and supporting branches. Not gonna be easy, I can tell you that.
We'll get some more fans soon to make sure we have optimal air circulation in flowering (important!)
Also, the CBD-enriched strains are doing just fine. They are very thirsty and show a good growth. Don't show signs of preflower yet, which is good.
AMazing.......amazing........I'm speechless
bonghopper
Active member
Amazing grow man, I understand you are coming from an organic point of view with all nutrition coming from the soil, this is the way nature works and we'd do well to copy it. I just want to share my experience of covering and protecting the soil with you.
Cast/sow clover direct in the beds and paths. Mix the seed with sand so it evens it out a little. Best waiting till the crop is done now though, the clover needs plenty of water to get estalished, and those paths look dead. Unless you got light and heat in there, sow it in April next year or it'll have a hard time establishing over winter. Its a real good feeling casting seed like it used to be done. Especially in the paths, those ganga root systems dont just stay in the holes that were dug, they are covering the entire greenhouse. If the clover is covering the path, it will activate the soil, fix shit loads of nitrogen, bring in earthworms, reduce water requirements dramatically and make lots of room for ganga roots. Their root systems will not compete but rather cooperate.
I'm a veg grower, started this technique two years ago for tomatoes & guerilla ganga. The biggest observation was that once the soil is covered it is so much healthier, and when the soil is healthy and active so are the plants and evaporation is so much less.
For a long term fertility & soil covering method, consider using freshly chipped branchwood and branches up to 150mm diameter with the leaves on and ideally from deciduous hardwoods/semi hardwoods. Cover the entire greenhouse with a 10cm layer of this branchwood/woodchip. You can lay a thin layer of garden compost down before the woodchip if its there. Inoculate the woodchip with King Stropharia or Oyster mushrooms, these will break down the woodchip real quick, and you got gourmet mushrooms to supply a local restaurant etc.. Mycorhizal inoculant like 'rootgrow' will work real well in such a humus rich enviromnent also.
Composting recipe come harvest:
Organic Alfalfa straw, ganga leaf & stem, comfrey bocking 14 leaf, yarrow leaf.
Just my two cents, I ache every time I see bare soil that could be alive.
Keep her lit!
bonghopper
Thanks Bh! Yeah, plans with clover were made, but it will be something for next season. I'll follow your very well placed advice!
Now, a small update concerning the Frisians:
They are all fully flowering, starting to produce resin, preparing to change colours, releasing very pleasant odors and still looking green.
We're lookin @ 5 more weeks of flowering or so.
Now, a small update concerning the Frisians:
They are all fully flowering, starting to produce resin, preparing to change colours, releasing very pleasant odors and still looking green.
We're lookin @ 5 more weeks of flowering or so.
I can honestly say I wouldn't want to harvest all those plants. Soooo much work. I don't even want to imagine trimming them. I can't deny that they are beautiful and more power to you on the production of a marijuana forest.
...yeah definitely, manicuring OD buds is much more work than doing it with indoors...
But why you only wanna select the good buds and let the rest rot? -dry the rest of the plants manicure them roughly and make some bubble-hash out of it. would be a shame to throw all that trichomes away
good weather and luck for the last weeks!
greets
Hazeo
But why you only wanna select the good buds and let the rest rot? -dry the rest of the plants manicure them roughly and make some bubble-hash out of it. would be a shame to throw all that trichomes away
good weather and luck for the last weeks!
greets
Hazeo
