Friends giving up the Herbs.

[waydee]

i can relate to the acid sence of panic attacks. when i first tried shrooms (only once), i realized i had anxiety. THE worst expirience of my life. i quit smoking weed for 2 days, but i was a full blown pothead, so 2 days later i was back at it. ever since, ive been checking my pupils for dialation, not eating or drinking something after it has left my eyesite, and having panic attacks EVERYTIME my pupils dialate for no reason. at least it seems for no reason, because 15 minutes later they return to nomal size again. shit really freaks me out.

edit: like all scientific testing, pupil dialation testing is done in a controlled everivonment.

edit#2: i also think the dialation could be from touching money, then maybe rubbing my eyes not realizing. a lot of poeple with anxiety rub their eyes a lot. nearly all money has cocaine on it (above 80%), and some has extacy, both pupil dialating drugs.

I'm not trying to be a dick here but have you considered going to a doctor about your anxiety? I realise you like pot but i'm guessing its not doing you much good man - you seem paranoid, high strung and almost delusional and i've only read one post.

Doctors dont have to mean medication, i've been down that road and didn't think much of it. Whats better in my opinion is to take a break from _all_ drugs, get your life and self into perspective - theres people that can help you with that, not rehab or anything but when I went through my anxious, delusional state during a particularly stressful time of my life what helped me was to quit everything, visit my doctor to talk and get a hold of my senses.

They tried medication, I gave it my best shot but the only drug I could begin to tolerate were beta blockers and even then I felt like I didn't want to become dependent on them to keep my adrenaline under control so I stopped taking them and made a conscious effort to get a grip on myself. Sometimes life throws a whole shower of shit down on you and we just can't handle it, theres sometimes no way around it but almost always a way to get out of it and to do that you need to be as focussed and clear headed as possible - weed isn't the best choice during those times in my opinion.

 

[jcsmooth]

Good discussion

I'd like to add to the general consensus that tolerance and some "side-effects" should be monitored on an individual basis. What works for one individual may not work for others. Sooner or later your body will tell you when it's time for a major change (like those oddly timed panic-attacks), and just be thankful that you are in tune to realize what they are.

Medication (the pharmaceutical kind) is a great example to emphasize this point. Waydee mentioned that beta-blockers were the only drug he could tolerate, but I've known lots of people who wouldn't touch the pills with a 10-foot poll.
I used to (and to a much smaller extent now) have anxiety issues and depression issues, tried a few different meds., and found effexor to be the only one that made a significant different (in a positive way). I cut out pot from my daily diet, and tried a few different medications one at a time. Some worked on serotonin, others on norepinephrine and dopamine. By process of elmination (what each medication said to affect), I found out my problem was serotonin, and that I should be careful to ingest things that affect this neurotransmitter. It runs in my family, and will more than likely plague me for the rest of my life.

I think it's important to emphasize that you should try to change your life in little steps....not just to make a transition easier, but to help realize what worked and what didn't. We're talking long-term rehabilitation here, so being methodical in your thought processing will work to your advantage.

Just some ideas,
JC

 

[Guest]

if you smoke weed too much, especially when you're younger it leads to panic attacks due to the lacking of a coping chemical in the brain

 

[Pythagllio]

^^^horseshit

or prove it

 

[Guest]

It's because their vitamin C content is low int their bodies and this brings trouble when you take stimulants like thc and others.

Stimulants effect the adrenal glands and vitamin C helps make the chemicals associated with the adrenal glands.

Just tell them to take 500mg-1000mg of vitamin C, 30min. to an hour before they smoke, vaporize, or eat cannabis. Peace.

 

[tbc OG]

if you smoke weed too much, especially when you're younger it leads to panic attacks due to the lacking of a coping chemical in the brain

And what chemical would this be exactly? I'm not trying to say your wrong, but with a statement like that there needs to be more evidence.

It would make sense, since everyone I know that have had panic attacks due to weed all smoked at a young age and were all heavy smokers.

But still...what chemical would this be?

 

[o.gkushowns]

Panic attacks are why I have had to quit toking like I used to. Before I'd go through 2-3 ounces a week of nice indoor. Now I only smoke during the Christmas holidaze and the summer holidaze.

It sucks having to give up something I love so much but atleast christmas is near!!!!
peace

 

[Pops]

My daughter has had panic/anxiety attacks for some years and has taken several pharms. for it. Now she just smokes. However she doen't smoke in anywhere near the quantity that many of you do, It kind of sounds like a lot of you smoke to escape reality. Not being critical, because for some reality is a bitch. I smoked occasionally for a couple of years in the late 60's and early 70's and then quit for 34 years. My reality was that I had to work full-time and go to school full-time and had a family to support. There are priorities in life that determine our choices. My family was my priority. I enjoyed the herb too much, and knew that I could not accomplish my priority while stoned. You have to control the herb and not let the herb control you. Ganja is not physically addictive, but can be habitforming to the point that it dominates your life. Outside pressures build up that you sometime cannot handle while stoned. The anxiety and panic attacks are usually caused by stress. You have to determine if marijuana use is adding to the stress in your life or helping to relieve the stress. I am not being judgemental about anyone smoking too much, as I have my own addictions, but sometimes we have to rethink what is important.

 

[Guest]

i understand why you would be hesitant to believe me, i'll post a link to some good information about it tonight or tomorrow night.

i don't have to time to go through everything right now

 

[Smurf]

Panic attacks are the worst things to experience. For what it's worth, I’d say something impacting on your life has to trigger them, something that could possibly be trivial to others, but not to those who are having the attacks. Shit, they can be really scary. It took a couple of years for me to work myself out........ but only after a GP/naturopath explained what was going down. All people react differently, but once you know how to combat an attack & prevent one from coming on, life does become much better. I used to get out into the fresh air, breathing deeply, going for a walk on my own to sort out the grey matter. Something I'll never forget is the near death bullshit experience of a panic attack! I've never tried chanting, but that is a type of meditation that involves controlled breathing so it will definitely work.

Oh yeh, I didn't smoke during that time of my life either, just gave it up because it would normally bring an attack on.

My thoughts go out to anyone experiencing them.

 

[The Bling]

I experenced this once im traveling right no but i had been medicating heavily before i left and when i went from smoking all day everyday to maby once a day and when i smoked in the morning one day and not till the night the next day when i smoked my heart raced and i felt horribal so i smoked another bowl and chilled out.

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

My ex girlfriend was always on to me for smoking too much, while she was on valium and ocassionally various Prozac derivates, she was actually a pill junkie while I'm only toking because it makes me more zen.
My mother called me a druggie, and before she died, slowly, from a combined lung and brain cancer, caused by a lifetime of smoking three packs of Marlborough a day, I think she realized she was the sucker, and not I.
I don't say this out of disrespect, I say it because life can be a bitch sometimes.
I understand people that have their demons blown out of proportion by too much pot smoking, for me it works differently.
When I don't smoke, I have a hard time falling asleep. I lay awake for hours at night and go through things I have to take care of. I loose a lot of hours of sleep that way, and with that you loose stamina and health. With a chill and a smoke session before napping I sleep like a baby. I'm just less stressed and tired that way.

 

[Guest]

When I broke up with my first true love, everytime I would smoke, I would feel the pain so much deeper in my heart and just dwell on it. It was really hard to let go or think of anything else. Without the herb I was much better. I'm not sure if it was because I was always pot buzzed around her, so I had some sort of memory in the pot buzz that I didn't when I was straight.

That experienced caused me to rethink herb, and I stopped smoking... I smoked maybe a handful of times the next 6 months, and still don't really use that much anymore. I'm just more cautious of it...

I guess its kinda an ongoing battle...and how I feel about marijuana. There seems to be so much good, but I'm still cautious... I do okay now without it so I think using it every once in awhile is fine for me at this point in time.

I used to use it medicinally, and do find it helps me. However now I'm taking licorice root and ginseng, which give me the energy and blood sugar control cannabis was giving me, but without any psychoactivity.

 

[Ganico]

It's all about mind control, and ego. Seriously, positive ego is important.