Friends giving up the Herbs.

[tbc OG]

Well its strange.. recently a couple of my friends have just stopped blazing...kind of out of the blue. Let me give you some background information first. Ill focus on one of them, because I know him the best of the two.

He is one of the reasons I got into heavy smoking. He wasn't the first person I blazed with, but back in high school he was the only one with a place we could blaze. He lived with his mom, but she was real chill and fine with us blazing.

So it became a pretty regular event that we would go to his house and smoke all night and chill. He would always be picking up new pieces, a box of blunt wraps, new video games, and all of this stuff to make it a pretty perfect stoner hangout.

Anyway, as we all grew up, most of us moved out of our parents house and so we started blazing and chilling at other places. He stayed at his moms house and we'd all occasionally go over there and blaze, or he'd come out and blaze. Either way, he was a pot head to the fullest extent of the definition. He would wake and bake, smoke before work, and smoke throughout the evening.

What always stuck out to me was his ability to look and act fine even when he was blasted. I could never tell if he was baked or not unless I had just smoked with him.

So recently, I was hanging out with some friends and I hear that he quit. No big deal, we all take little breaks now and then. But then all of a sudden he is selling all his pieces and saying he is completley done blazing and shit...and I believe him since its been two months and nothing. Now his reasoning for this is that he gets panic attacks now!

The other friend that just quit also said the same thing and I live with with a kid that gave up smoking a couple years ago because of panic attacks.

So WTF is this about. What exactly happens when someone has a panic attack? And why is it that someone can smoke constantly for years without any problems and then all of a sudden BAM panic attack every time he blazes.

And is it really so bad that it can turn a hardcore blazer into someone that wants nothing to do with herb.

Its just weird for me because weed is what brought a lot of our friends together and now they want nothing to do with it. I mean we still hang out and have a good time, but I do wish everyone was still getting high.

Can anyone shed some light on this situation....

 

[jcsmooth]

That's a tricky one bud....

Has there been any (other) major life-changing events lately for him?
Maybe he's feeling pressure to get on with his life and he believes that pot will only hinder his abilities to get there.

My brothers and I always use to blaze together, and there wasn't a more comfortable environment then to get high and talk about old times.

Either way you gotta support him and respect his decisions, right?
JC

 

[tbc OG]

That's a tricky one bud....

Has there been any (other) major life-changing events lately for him?
Maybe he's feeling pressure to get on with his life and he believes that pot will only hinder his abilities to get there.

My brothers and I always use to blaze together, and there wasn't a more comfortable environment then to get high and talk about old times.

Either way you gotta support him and respect his decisions, right?
JC

I don't know, I can't see it being that he needs to get on with his life. He is the type of guy that hardly graduated high school, works a BS job, and spends most of his time skateboarding. He doesn't exactly have much drive, but thats fine because he's always seemed happy doing what he's doing.


The other friend said that panic attacks started happening after he tried acid for the first time. Thats strange to me because I have plenty of friends that have tried acid and other drugs and never had any problems with panic attacks.

But yeah, no doubt I have to support their decisions either way, its just strange to me.

 

[Pythagllio]

I had a dear friend who did the same thing. All of a sudden, out of the blue...years later I found out he'd been arrested for possession and 'diverted' into rehab...too embarassed to admit it because he really did have a brain fart in front of a cop and smelled like pot.

 

[mangled]

the same exact thing happened to me. I started getting panic attacks in 04 from weed. Extreme panic attacks even when i only took 1 hit. I did not even want to be around it because it would remind me of when the attacks. I quit for 9 months then started back and have been for awhile now, panic attack free.

At the time i quit i moved away to college out of state where i knew no one and rarely saw my old friends and a couple of them were getting hard core into coke and acting coke head ish

i say just give him time, he needs to clear his mind
He is prob just going through some stress because he is trying to figure out what he is doing the rest of his life and the weed is bringing it out

 

[ChrOniCHiGhz]

I've had a panic attacks before, when I was really stressed out (actually it was my birthday of all shitty days to have one) and we were smoking, and I had ate some shrooms. I freaked out because i had a bad ass cold too, so I felt like I was going to die (my lungs were full of fluid and what not,) then I just thought, what the hell man, you used to eat acid every week and never had problems, whats going on, you need to calm down, I calmed myself down, then started enjoying my birthday again. Sometimes stress + drugs or herb have bad effect together, you just got to learn to calm yourself. I've had a couple friends quit recently due to the same problem

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

As JJS said. I have a similar story to tell about an old friend that was a seasoned smoker. He was the first person I knew that had a C-plant at home, and I believe that somehow influenced me later.
He loved smoking, but in his mid-forties his career collapsed and he started getting mid life crisis, and panic attacks. Smoking just makes it so much worse, if you ever smoked after breaking up with the woman of your life, it's like that but even worse.
If your pal felt that his life was going nowhere I can understand it tbc OG, going straight makes some people feel that they're retaking control of their lives, that something conciderable has been done to change it. It's a purification rite.

I have this sort of friend that was always whining for weed, but he never wanted to contribute to all the hard work and risks it involved.
When he recently announced that he had stopped smoking, I was damn happy he wasn't going to pester me anymore.

 

[DrugleyDoRite]

I smoked every day for 20 years. One day I got paranoid real bad and it kept happening quite a lot. So I decided to lay off a bit. 5 years later I started up again. Slowly at first and now a couple drops of the Green Dragon in the morning helps me out.

Sometimes you just have to take a break now and then. Living in a buzzed state all your life makes it hard to get a grasp on reality. Even though reality sucks sometimes.

 

[UberFiend]

I have been considering quitting for the same reason. I started getting panic attacks while high over a year ago, and they’ve been getting more and more frequent. Even when I’m not having a panic attack, being really high makes me feel nauseous, more so if it’s my first smoke of the day or I’ve just eaten. For now, I’m going to pace myself and try to avoid getting TOO high.

The other friend said that panic attacks started happening after he tried acid for the first time. Thats strange to me because I have plenty of friends that have tried acid and other drugs and never had any problems with panic attacks.

It’s strange that you mention acid. Although I was having these panic attacks and negative side effects from smoking before the first time I tried shrooms, the symptoms have gotten worse since. I think shrooms also fucked with my gag reflex for about a week.

 

[tbc OG]

Smoking just makes it so much worse, if you ever smoked after breaking up with the woman of your life, it's like that but even worse.

This is something I can relate to. I remember a couple years back getting dumped out of the blue by a girl I had been dating for a couple years. I thought smoking would help, but I remember it just made me dwell on everything and I recall panicing a little bit. I wouldn't say it was a panic attack but it definitley wasn't a good feeling.

I guess thinking about it now, there was an issue with his girlfriend cheating on him around the time when he gave up smoking.... I could see that giving him panic attacks...but they are still together and no one is really sure if the cheating actually happened or not...

Another strange thing is his girlfriend used to hardly ever smoke and now that he has quit she smokes a lot more...but usually when he isnt around....

I'm starting to think girlfiend issues might be the cause of this...but I don't get why he wouldn't smoke when he's just hanging out with his close friends? Oh well.

 

[LeoNardoDaVinci]

I've posted about similar problems with smoking weed after I did salvia, but it was flashbacks along with panic attacks feeling like I am coming to the end of my rope so to say but for me I came to see that it was ego death/panic attacks/flash backs all rolled into one. The occurance of travelling between the 7th and 8th conciousness, the 7th is born from the 8th but the 7th thinks it creates the 8th and here comes the fear of bodily death. Anyhow I was having these events and I said well time to quit smoking and I did for 3 days then I smoked again...flashback panic attack brink of ego death. Then I found the greatest tool of all and I put my faith in it 100% and I am smoking just as much as I ever did and I am flashback/panic attack/uninvited ego death FREE. Nam Myoho Renge Kyo worked for me. I thank the chanting growers thread for being a becon for me to find. From that becon I found the SGI what an important becon indeed. Your buddy is probably stressed, unhappy with his life etc...he has alot of free time on his hands it seems. He could benefit greatly from a little chanting, infact I am gonna chant for him. Nam Myoho Renge Kyo!

 

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I've posted about similar problems with smoking weed after I did salvia, but it was flashbacks along with panic attacks feeling like I am coming to the end of my rope so to say but for me I came to see that it was ego death/panic attacks/flash backs all rolled into one. The occurance of travelling between the 7th and 8th conciousness, the 7th is born from the 8th but the 7th thinks it creates the 8th and here comes the fear of bodily death. Anyhow I was having these events and I said well time to quit smoking and I did for 3 days then I smoked again...flashback panic attack brink of ego death. Then I found the greatest tool of all and I put my faith in it 100% and I am smoking just as much as I ever did and I am flashback/panic attack/uninvited ego death FREE. Nam Myoho Renge Kyo worked for me. I thank the chanting growers thread for being a becon for me to find. From that becon I found the SGI what an important becon indeed. Your buddy is probably stressed, unhappy with his life etc...he has alot of free time on his hands it seems. He could benefit greatly from a little chanting, infact I am gonna chant for him. Nam Myoho Renge Kyo!

Oh goooooooood they got you too! Run everybody!

 

[bounty29]

I've had a panic attack once, it made me want to quit when it happened but the next day I thought about it and it made sense, and it hasn't happened again. It was a combination of only smoking a few times in the previous few months, not "testing" a new bag of weed (it was a lot stronger than I normally get) and having issues with the girlfriend.

We smoked, and we were just watching tv or something and we had a fight, and I just couldn't handle it and kinda broke down. I was under a lot of stress at the time because I had just moved to my first apartment, and I was starting life in a whole new area. If I ever start to feel one coming on I can usually talk myself out of it.

 

[hoyt]

i can relate to the acid sence of panic attacks. when i first tried shrooms (only once), i realized i had anxiety. THE worst expirience of my life. i quit smoking weed for 2 days, but i was a full blown pothead, so 2 days later i was back at it. ever since, ive been checking my pupils for dialation, not eating or drinking something after it has left my eyesite, and having panic attacks EVERYTIME my pupils dialate for no reason. at least it seems for no reason, because 15 minutes later they return to nomal size again. shit really freaks me out.

edit: like all scientific testing, pupil dialation testing is done in a controlled everivonment.

edit#2: i also think the dialation could be from touching money, then maybe rubbing my eyes not realizing. a lot of poeple with anxiety rub their eyes a lot. nearly all money has cocaine on it (above 80%), and some has extacy, both pupil dialating drugs.

 

[bounty29]

Is there really enough cocaine on "80% of money" that it will cause your pupils to dialate? Maybe constantly worrying about your pupils dialating causes them to. Stop checking them, and even if they are dialated, which I bet would stop, you wouldn't even know it!

 

[hoyt]

Is there really enough cocaine on "80% of money" that it will cause your pupils to dialate? Maybe constantly worrying about your pupils dialating causes them to. Stop checking them, and even if they are dialated, which I bet would stop, you wouldn't even know it!

idk ;( but FUCK hallucinagens (even though weed is classified as one)!

 

[guineapig]

I have heard of this happening to some people after long-term everyday use.....i believe it is the herb's way of telling the person to start using this sacred plant more responsibly.....

Remember to always use "appropriately".....every-day may or may not be appropriate for you.....

kind regards from a guineapig

 

[tbc OG]

I have heard of this happening to some people after long-term everyday use.....i believe it is the herb's way of telling the person to start using this sacred plant more responsibly.....

Remember to always use "appropriately".....every-day may or may not be appropriate for you.....

kind regards from a guineapig

Well said.

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

I have heard of this happening to some people after long-term everyday use.....i believe it is the herb's way of telling the person to start using this sacred plant more responsibly.....

Remember to always use "appropriately".....every-day may or may not be appropriate for you.....

I do agree with the latter part, most drugs or stimuli are beneficial in small amounts but not in amounts large enough to cause abuse and dependence. Nevertheless, I will not cast judgement on those that have dedicated their lives to the Cannabis plant and smoke it incessantly, it may fit with their desires and aspirations in life, if so no problem.

I do not concider that Cannabis causes panic attacks. The psychoactive effect of Cannabionids simply unlocks certain emotional baggage tucked away in the cerebral vaults.
If we accept the scientific theory that dreams are not external influences of some sorts, but byproducts of brain activity (impressions, desires, fears etc) processed during sleep, then we should concider certain emotional reactions in a "high" in a similar fashion.
The anxiety and panic is within you because of stress factors in your life, Cannabis simply has a potential to set them free.

It is well known that people with fragile mental health, with depressive or schizophrenic tendencies do not fare well from regular, heavy Cannabis use (governmental health reports never stop playing that tune).

People with a stable mental health and a positive attitude in life are generally the ones that profit the most from a recreational point of view.

If a troubled 15 year old kid ask me for weed just to escape a daily life he hasn't learned to handle, I'll turn him down.

 

[DimeBag65]

for a very long time i never understood people getting paranoid after smoking or getting more stressed and shaking or anxiety attacks. i had always got relaxation from smoking, but as my life turned more stressful and i did have more things to dwell on or worry about it seemed after i smoked thats all that was on my mind and would work myself into having major anxiety and stressing myself out. also believe that has to do with not keeping the mind busy with other things, so if your life isent busy but you still have major problems on your mind it enhances the affect of the anxiety it would seem. iv got myself so worked up in my head to the point of shaking or having muscle tension which i attribute to such a stressful life style at the time and constant smoking. anyways it definately happens to alotta people during rough times of life it would seem. Dime