Where's the info that OBS is getting out?
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Franchise Genetics
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Joshua Ntr
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It's an assumption my man and we all know what assumptions makes out us. Obsoul has loads of beans from years back. This is but a short fall. It happens to the best breeders. We must always remember that these plants were around long before humans and I tend to believe that no matter the process used we cant always determine the outcome. He deleted his ig account because of all the people questioning his character and as always brothers trashing his brand. Plenty of his gear is floating around which makes it just as desirable. In all honesty, its hard to focus when demand is so high. Some of these people received beans as gifts but trashed him like they actually paid money for his work. Thats where I get my assumption. Always remember, this is just the internet and just like in real life, people only tell part of the story and its always the part that makes them seem like the victim. I just purchased his wifi#43 cross. If it has any issues I now see it as a part of game not a malicious attempt to fuck me out of my hard earn money. Lmao....people are fakers dude....watch your ass and stay low!
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Awesome, I'm pulling up a chair for this one. Thanks for posting Rula.
Now just playing devils advocate here, and I mean that sincerely, I have Alien FPOG and Alien Blue Dot vegging away as we speak, with OJSDKB in the vault. I point that out because people seem to think that others always have an alterior motive when they say things and that is not the case. I don't mean this as bashing but more as just something I've noticed.
If this was anyone besides OBS or another one of a select few, if they had one of there first few public releases throw out hermie after hermie on packs that cost $200-$300 a piece, would people be so willing to chalk it up to other causes than the breeders lack of testing/attention/quality control? Now I know he's been around for a long time, and has contributed a lot to the MJ community, but does that give him a free pass to charge that kind of money and have tons of beans from different strains all hermie and actually have people defending him, calling the customers who spent top dollar on his gear haters and say they're trashing his brand? Imvho what's trashing his brand is the countless reports of less than stellar plants and herms from the orange line. Now I know I've seen a lot of great plants too, and I'm DEFINITELY growing out my OJSDKB when the time comes because the genetics in there to me are worth the risk. But that doesn't make the people mad about there plants wrong. And when other breeders mass produce crosses they get called pollen chuckers and hacks, yet I feel like I've seen OBS put out hundreds of crosses since he went public with franchise. So I guess it's hard for me to picture all these getting tested for quality control.
I guess my point is, all breeders should be held to the same standard. And if your going to get to the point where you wont even disclose genetics to your customers and are charging $200-$300 a pack, those genetics better be SOLID. I know I'm certainly never going to buy a pack that I'm not given the genetics on, but some will, and I can imagine they will not be happy if they don't perform to the standard they're portrayed to be, given the high price tag and the "proprietary" genetics that are too important to disclose for fear someone will steal the cross. I dunno, my Alien FPOG and Alien Blue Dot look great so far, but it seems to me OBS is kinda shooting himself in the foot here.
Now I know people are gonna jump down my throat, because of who OBS is and what he's done. And I do recognize and appreciate that immensely, but I also call it like I see it. I saw GU get ripped apart for using a couple males and hitting all his ladies, along with many others. And I only mention GU because that was a huge public spectacle where he had a bunch of herms from mass produced gear that clearly couldn't have all been tested in such a short period of time. Now I know the situation isn't the exact same, there are other circumstances, but both mass produced a bunch of strains with a couple males and have released hundreds of hybrids in the last year. Both have had a male of there's produce some very hermie prone offspring, and people rip GU to pieces but saying OBS customers are haters. Kind of a double standard to me...
If this was anyone besides OBS or another one of a select few, if they had one of there first few public releases throw out hermie after hermie on packs that cost $200-$300 a piece, would people be so willing to chalk it up to other causes than the breeders lack of testing/attention/quality control? Now I know he's been around for a long time, and has contributed a lot to the MJ community, but does that give him a free pass to charge that kind of money and have tons of beans from different strains all hermie and actually have people defending him, calling the customers who spent top dollar on his gear haters and say they're trashing his brand? Imvho what's trashing his brand is the countless reports of less than stellar plants and herms from the orange line. Now I know I've seen a lot of great plants too, and I'm DEFINITELY growing out my OJSDKB when the time comes because the genetics in there to me are worth the risk. But that doesn't make the people mad about there plants wrong. And when other breeders mass produce crosses they get called pollen chuckers and hacks, yet I feel like I've seen OBS put out hundreds of crosses since he went public with franchise. So I guess it's hard for me to picture all these getting tested for quality control.
I guess my point is, all breeders should be held to the same standard. And if your going to get to the point where you wont even disclose genetics to your customers and are charging $200-$300 a pack, those genetics better be SOLID. I know I'm certainly never going to buy a pack that I'm not given the genetics on, but some will, and I can imagine they will not be happy if they don't perform to the standard they're portrayed to be, given the high price tag and the "proprietary" genetics that are too important to disclose for fear someone will steal the cross. I dunno, my Alien FPOG and Alien Blue Dot look great so far, but it seems to me OBS is kinda shooting himself in the foot here.
Now I know people are gonna jump down my throat, because of who OBS is and what he's done. And I do recognize and appreciate that immensely, but I also call it like I see it. I saw GU get ripped apart for using a couple males and hitting all his ladies, along with many others. And I only mention GU because that was a huge public spectacle where he had a bunch of herms from mass produced gear that clearly couldn't have all been tested in such a short period of time. Now I know the situation isn't the exact same, there are other circumstances, but both mass produced a bunch of strains with a couple males and have released hundreds of hybrids in the last year. Both have had a male of there's produce some very hermie prone offspring, and people rip GU to pieces but saying OBS customers are haters. Kind of a double standard to me...
Adubb x AD 1
Adubb x AD 2
Adubb x AD 3
Adubb x AD 4
not much to say ATM..they are growing normally next to others hybrid so it seems vigor is ok. NO deformations at this point.
After a little research i have found more specs about the cross, from subrob and the San Diego crew:
Adubb is Sour Dubb x AlienTech (ChemD x AlienDog F1 -ether cut reversed-)
This Adubb cuttings has been pollinated with reversed pollen from another selection of AlienDawg F1 wich is the "Cherry pheno" cut, wich sells for more and isn't as spread around.
correct me if i'm wrong..
Adubb x AD 2
Adubb x AD 3
Adubb x AD 4
not much to say ATM..they are growing normally next to others hybrid so it seems vigor is ok. NO deformations at this point.
After a little research i have found more specs about the cross, from subrob and the San Diego crew:
Adubb is Sour Dubb x AlienTech (ChemD x AlienDog F1 -ether cut reversed-)
This Adubb cuttings has been pollinated with reversed pollen from another selection of AlienDawg F1 wich is the "Cherry pheno" cut, wich sells for more and isn't as spread around.
correct me if i'm wrong..
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They're looking pretty happy. What medium are they in?
Terpz
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Lumbo Tech, Area43 & OrangeFPOG
Lumbo Tech, Area43 & OrangeFPOG
Orange Fruity Pebbles OG
Lumbo Tech phenos 1&2
Lumbo Tech #1
Lumbo Tech #2
Area 43 #4
Currently in the process of sexing but have selected who I believe to be winners already. Time shall tell. Looking forward to hunting these and much more Franchise. Thanks Obs!
Lumbo Tech, Area43 & OrangeFPOG
Orange Fruity Pebbles OG
Lumbo Tech phenos 1&2
Lumbo Tech #1
Lumbo Tech #2
Area 43 #4
Currently in the process of sexing but have selected who I believe to be winners already. Time shall tell. Looking forward to hunting these and much more Franchise. Thanks Obs!
Let's shake my memory a little here:
Alien tech was the male OB had and used for alien dog I think..
ADub = sour dubb x alien dog ether cut reversed
Growtech reversed the cut and gave pollen to humbleguy who made the seeds..
Ether cut and cherry cut were just the descriptions KRD used to describe his keeper cuts of alien dog and somehow became the only two descriptors ever used for alien dog cuts ever
Around day 28 of veg. These are the correct numbers as marked on plants. in previous upload i was merely uploading them as 1.2.3.4 etc.
These are the correct numbers (number 3 didnt sprout)
Adubb x AD 4
Adubb x AD 5
not much quality in these pics, hope you can get an idea.
they are growing fast, a bit stretchy. Some already showed female pistils.
Number 5 is a bit different than others with skinnier leaves and a bit more "sativa" structure.
These babies will be flipped today, in hope to harvest first days of 2016...
These are the correct numbers (number 3 didnt sprout)
Adubb x AD 4
Adubb x AD 5
not much quality in these pics, hope you can get an idea.
they are growing fast, a bit stretchy. Some already showed female pistils.
Number 5 is a bit different than others with skinnier leaves and a bit more "sativa" structure.
These babies will be flipped today, in hope to harvest first days of 2016...
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Thanks for the pics. Pretty excited to run these. 
Redeyedjedi916
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Redeyedjedi916
Member
Terpz
Member
If I recall, Atom Smasher was labeled as a limited-release (although most of franchise is limited imo) and packs went for $300. To my knowledge, those packs are no more. Please correct me if I am wrong.
