Follow Growing Goo's first grow! 150w HPS clones and seed

[GrowingGoo]

Hello everyone!

I have decided to post my 150w El Cheapo grow for everyone to follow along.

Heres what we have...

2 "Goo" clones that are my first plants, so they hold a special place in my heart! I have been growing them for 10 weeks now.

14 Mystery seeds collected over the years. 8 of them planted in 4 in pots and 6 planted in small shoebox sized plastic tub.

More to come...Pull up a chair, grab a cold one, and enjoy!

Growing Goo

 

[packn2puff]

Right on GGoo...welcome to IC ...have any pics yet?
10 weeks veg ..or all together..how long in flower if they are in flower?

 

[Guest]

GGoo
Pics would be great.. We want pics, We want pics... Good luck be back soon to check for some nugsz shots.. peace..

Sack's First Outdoor Grow
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sack :friends: :joint

 

[GrowingGoo]

Here is a pic of the two over-nuted Goo clones




Close Up of Goo #1 with Yardstick for scale




See all that new Growth???




Close-up of new growth



Seedling #1 at 3 days since planted!

 

[GrowingGoo]

Here are some more pics..


Seedling#2 at 3 days




8 Seedlings in 4 inch pots

 

[3legdog]

Lookn' Goo !

Lookn' Goo !

Couldn't resist ^ They do look to be coming around & are getting pretty large...flowering soon ? Best of luck with your set-up as thats what it's all about grown' yer own regardless of how fancy your gear is. Happy harvests & Peace 3ld
vegged about 2mos..biggest i can control in my space

 

[packn2puff]

They kinda look like nute lock out, rather than burn from here..how's the pH doing?..don't seem like they are getting magnesium, iron or P&K which is why I'm thinking the pH might be low. If you aren't 12/12, I would flip um now...cause they are going to stretch alot in early flower..Just my
Check out this thread, you'll see what I mean > The Complete guide to Sick Plants,pH, and Pest troubles!

 

[GrowingGoo]

Hello,

Pacn2puff, You could be right, but I don't have ph meter yet. So I can not give an accurate measurement yet. I looked at the plant guide by mynameisstitch, and it looked like it had several of the different symptoms. So i flushed her, and then transplanted to the new FF Ocean Forest Soil.

I tested the water that I have been watering my plants with a pool ph chem test. Our tap/well water shows 7.2-7.4, and have tested a few other bottled waters out of curiosity, and I was amazed at the different ph levels each had. Although off the small scale of my pool tester, it was shown that Wallyworld "Drinking" water had a low pH, whereas the Wallyworld "Spring" Water had a high pH. Also tested a Sams Club Purified bottle water w/ minerals, and pH was even higher. I am saving up for a "real" pH tester, and since I might go hydro in the future, I want one with TDS/EC also.

I was hoping to have at least a 400w light before I flowered, but things are tight now. This is my third year as a CA Injured worker, and between my disability payments, and selling my off my possesions on ebay, I am unable to afford my meds, and keep a roof over my head at the same time... SO...I choose the roof. Which is the whole reason why I started to grow in the first place. That is also why I have waited 10 weeks, want to make sure I have enough to last me to next harvest.

3legdog, that was 2 months>>>>??? hmmmm..... maybe these are a lil too big to bloom them both inside at the same time. Maybe I can put one outside to continue vegging, and bloom the other inside>?, then I can continue to try and get some clones off of the outdoors plant, and be ready with some clones to start when indoor bloom #1 is done?

 

[3legdog]

Ph swings also can cause unusual leaf burn(&other nut. uptake problems) so try & keep the solution you water with constant....personally i would go with distilled water which is always at or near neutral(7) for now so you atleast have 1 constant....baseline.. whatever. Just remember distilled water is 'stripped' so it has no cal or mag 2 things you will definetly see deficiensies quick if you dont add a supliment or fert. with them in it. Best of luck 3ld

 

[B.C.]

High ya Goo !

High ya Goo !

Right on man...I see you've been reading, I think you understand now why the miracle grow for acid loveing plants is a big no-no for mj ( ya live ya learn... ) They're looking a lot better. Now that your armed with all the info. you need there will be no stopping you ! Speaking of info. if your worried about your plants getting to big in flower you can low stress train them, especially the new shoots that are really plyable. It helps keep there size manageable and will increase your yeild... hahaha more reading for ya Goo, there are some good threads here at IC on L.S.T. and at OG. Good luck with everything and take care... later... BC

 

[GrowingGoo]

BC,

Been reading and reading till my eyes are bloodshot, (I think it's from the reading anyway)

Just a quick update, until I can take a few more pictures for everyone...

Still only 2 of 14 seedlings have sprouted. I dug up two seeds to inspect, and they had not popped. I soaked them in water for a couple hours, and then squeezed it to see if it would pop the seam open, sure enough it did. Inside was a tiny lil baby just starting a tail. It did not appear to be damaged, so I popped it back in the dirt, and put a little soil on top. I have labeled this planter, so I can identify later if I was careful enough to save the little guy. Next time I will try soaking seeds until tails appear. I would rather learn with bagseed, than a special 10-pack anyway, so no harm done either way.

I also adopted a new member into the family. I was told it was an Afghani? It has been outdoors most its life, and is about 3 feet tall. It has alot of chewed up leaves on it, so I sprayed it. Pulled a catapillar off of it today, and I will be looking for more bugs and spraying all plants again soon.

I have been increasing the dark period gradually. Is it better to just go right to 12/12? Or a steady increase of dark periods until 12/12 is reached. I started these plants at 18/6, and ramped all the way to up to 24hrs on for 3 days, then back down again. Currently they are at 15/9, and with this schedule, will be at 12/12 in 3 weeks. However that will end up being a 14 week veg cycle for the two goo clones, can they get tooo big? Is there such a problem? Or will the problem be providing enough light? I have never grown before, so I do not know what to expect from here, and how much growth will take place during flowering?

 

[B.C.]

Hey Goo, You can go straight to 12/12 that's pretty much the norm. For the first couple of weeks there going to go though the "stretch" phase, how much they stretch depends for the most part, but not always on how much sativa is in the plant you have. Sativa's tend to be tall and lanky where as the indicas tend to be short and stout. A good rule of thumb is to plan on them getting twice as tall as they were before flower. This is why I suggested the low stress training. By keeping all your growing tips as even and low as possible at the start of flower and continueing through the stretch will help you acheive better light penatration all way to the bottom of the plant. Imo. this is must when your useing a lower wattage hps because there isn't a lot of penatration to begin with. Plus the more even your canopy is the better your yeild will be. Well Goo hope this helps... btw, it looks like your plate is getting full fast... hehehe you've been bitten by the grow bug ! later... BC

 

[GrowingGoo]

B.C.: A good rule of thumb is to plan on them getting twice as tall as they were before flower.

WOW, ummm.... did I read correctly, double in size??? OK...ummmm....well...., I guess I will flip them to 12/12 tonight. Good thing my current growspace has 10 ft ceilings!

I will take some pics before they go to 12/12. Looking forward to watching them grow!

Peace

Growing Goo

 

[GrowingGoo]

Ok everyone, as promised here is pics before going into flowering. Just watered, and newly adopted member!




Pictures from above with and w/o flash







Goo#2 sideview, and closeup





Seedlings #1 and #2 at 7 days from planting

 

[3legdog]

Nice to see things are going well :smile: & liked your idea^ of getting clones off one of the plants before you flower it. Sorry i spaced on those qs'. With 10ft ceilings you are n' & dont have to worry about the stretch. However since your are flowering with a smaller sodium there will only be around 18-24" (w/150hps)of penetration so i would train them to stay low (during early flowering)...giving you an even canopy of buds. Best of buds to you as it wont be long once you start 12/12. Peace 3ld

 

[Guest]

Goo lookin good man

 

[GrowingGoo]

Well I am sad to report that seedling#1 is dead. #2 is coming along and has been placed under the 150 hps. One new seedling has popped up, and some more are being soaked as I type this. Some of the Goo clones I took are working, and some not ~50% success. Next time I will try cloning into a different medium, or use a homemade clone machine.

I decided to perform some LST on one of my 2 Goo plants that are now a week into flower. We will see how that develops! So far so good! I checked plant 12 hrs after LST, and it was all perked up again, demanding some more torture.

I have decided to upgrade to a 400 HPS, and I currently have the 2 goo plants under it. I am expecting to notice quite a bit of growth difference, as the light is MUCH brighter. I also made a cocktail of tiger bloom and Big bloom at 1/2 reccomended, and gave the girls a drink. Things are pretty warm here, and my room temp is reaching 94 peak. I am concerned that this is going to effect my budset, and yield. Any thoughts on this? My reflector has a glass lens, and outlets for aircooling, that is next. I expect to see a ~5-10 degree f. reduction once that is installed.

 

[GrowingGoo]

Hello everyone! Thaks for tuning back in!

Things are happy here! With the new 400 watt HPS, the plants are exploding!
I am in day #11 of flowering, and there is little white hair everywhere!

I am feeding at every other watering. Alternating feedings with Tiger Bloom and Big Bloom. They seem to be enjoying this schedule, and I just might dial it up a bit more. I have really noticed how much more water they are drinking now. It is truly amazing to be able to look at my girls everyday, and see how much they have grown. I was expecting growth to slow with the less hours of light, but just the opposite has happened. When B.C. suggested that the plant would double in size from veg to flower. I found it hard to believe, until I have seen it with my own eyes. In their 11 days of flowering so far, they are at least a third bigger. The next 6 weeks should be pretty exciting! See ya soon!


Overhead from 8ft high looking down.




Taken 7/28/05




Taken 8/02/05

 

[littlesamsonite]

The plants are looking great under that new 400! Glad to see its working out for you cant wait for the next 6 weeks

 

[GrowingGoo]

I was going to post a question/hypothesis on a seperate thread, but I will try here first...

Riddle me this.....carbonated water!

A Month ago, these plants had nute lockout, I have been cautious since, but the scientist in me always wants to know what caused it.

A little over a month ago, I was supplementing CO2 by putting dry ice in hot water in a bucket. This was then placed in front of the fan, in front of the plants. Dry ice sublimates into water and air, leaving a bucket of carbonated water (yes, I did taste it once, and it was bubbly). On one occasion, I used this carbonated water to water the plants.

So here is the million dollar question $$$$...

About 7 days later, i started noticing nute/ph lockout problems. This just occured to me over the weekend... Could the carbonated water have harmed the plants???? I appreciate your input!!