Garbage in, garbage out. Lowest common denominator (Wal Mart, HD, Lowes) will give you the worst result. There are a number of high quality purveyors of organic amendments out there but the shipping cost seems to throw most people off. I just don't get it - if it was in a fancy package and had a ton of marketing hype and slick ads people throw fistfuls of money at it, but ask them to pay to ship what looks like a 20 lb bag of sand and they won't do it??
(at least for.me)
Your other statement pretty much hits the nail on the head for my "storage" requirement. P-Nut and I would try to source good organic products awhile back that arent available locally (and arent in fancy labeled, 10x marked up price) and we would have had to end up having to buy multiple 50lb bags of shit to make it worth while and then have it delivered by truck, then stored until use. This doesnt currently work for me. I know he has been able to source some stuff locally in more recent times but he also has little more "cover" for it than i do as well which makes it work well for him. I would love to be able to order a truckload and store it in a nice workshop or something. If i did that now, it would be stored in a high traffic area that i dont feel like answering questions about
That's exactly what you are dealing with. Great usage of terminology. If changes in the environment result in changes in the phenotype...then by all means, expression, can logically be concluded to be altered by changes in the environment surrounding the roots. When we are talking "flavor" in cannabis, we are really discussing terpenes. As testing methodologies become more complex and we begin to solidify the importance of the synergy between terpenes and cannabinoids and not just high THCA, I think soils mixes or hydro regimens will be specifically designed to increase the production of given desired cannabinoid/terpene profiles.
Certainly a part of that equation is genetics and the plants possessing the ability to actually produce the desired results. However, if the genetics are capable, it is up to the grower to create an environment which allows the genetic attributes to surface as desired. How much of this is genetic or how much of this is environmentally influenced, I really don't know where that line exists.
It was EXTREMELY interesting to see how many different people entered GG#4 samples for the Emerald Cup in 2015 - and how much those test results varied from sample to sample. Marginally lower THC values with significantly higher terpene values ranked much higher overall than samples that had superior THC numbers but were lacking in terpenes.
Granted, that northern coast line is full of micro climates that could contribute to this outcome...but I'd certainly insert the concept the soil these plants are being grown in plays just as much an important role in how a single clone could result in such a wide range of test results.
Thanks, man. It's because of GrownOut I started following this thread. His generosity for seed donations for Phillthy and how highly he spoke of this group of growers. I've found an amazing thread where the people participating are about one thing - growing GREAT cannabis and making sure their buddies are doing the same. That vibe has been lost on much of ICmag in the last couple years. This thread is truly a breath of fresh air and inspires me...sincerely.
It's has become my private little secret...that corner of the site to come to when I need to believe there are still people out there doing the damn thing...flipping a middle finger to prohibition and doing so in style.
The medical scene is great and the legal state grows are just mind boggling - but there is something about people in the at risk states that just lights a fire in my soul. People are too quick to forget there is still a battle being fought and there are still people risking everything to grow this plant.
Nothing but respect for the participants of this thread. You all kick ass.
that plant bubba, was a Peyote Purple pheno that smelled like V05 shampoo or Mimosa flowers. the PP are notorious N sensitive plants that claw up early and that was when I was all full bore on the full strength alfalfa teas. I learned a lot about alfalfa tea that grow... how bad it burns, less is more... that sort of thing.
you're right, it's sad, the new pitchfork members are so lost.
