I know how you feel..lool but not rub too much...i've damage many young leafs doing that looool
The older leafs doesn't gift the same sensations.
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First time grower with SILS on micro grow
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I know how you feel..lool but not rub too much...i've damage many young leafs doing that looool
The older leafs doesn't gift the same sensations.
Sampas92
Just newbin
I know how you feel..lool but not rub too much...i've damage many young leafs doing that looool
The older leafs doesn't gift the same sensations.
I didnt damage them, they are fine..
I know, the older ones are more harsh, its interesting to see their maturity by the feel of the leaf
Sampas92
Just newbin
So iv been thinking on what explosiv said, remember some things one blynx thread and went to do some calculations.
So im considering the shelf where my lights is the limit of my cab heigth and and the benches where the pots are the bottom.
The measures like this are 0.70cm heigth by 0.30 width by 0.60 long.
On blynx thread about SILS, him and other grower, seem to get the best results with 25w/sq.
Above 30/35w/sq they didnt saw no improvement of results are after some wattage some diminishing returns. So im aiming for 25w/sqft as the sweatspot. Whatever the heigth of the lights, just keeping in mind that as more high the cab is the more powerfull fhe sils may be, at least in my case.
So im running 35w of leds divided by 3 bulbs, 2 13w and one 9w and with this configuration and in that space im getting 29w sqft..
With the ligths raised to 1m heigth of total space i get 19w per sqft with this configuration but woth all of my 9w i get 30w per m2 but will be a more dispersed ligth instead of so directed.
I think im going for the 1m configuration with all the 9w and i will be at 30w sqft, technically the pratically the same wattage per m2 but more dispersed and bounced in the walls..
Also my older girls dont look good and i think after doing this calculations that the lights fhey are getting are not the best option, just finishing my dinner and im going to work on it.
See ya later guys
So im considering the shelf where my lights is the limit of my cab heigth and and the benches where the pots are the bottom.
The measures like this are 0.70cm heigth by 0.30 width by 0.60 long.
On blynx thread about SILS, him and other grower, seem to get the best results with 25w/sq.
Above 30/35w/sq they didnt saw no improvement of results are after some wattage some diminishing returns. So im aiming for 25w/sqft as the sweatspot. Whatever the heigth of the lights, just keeping in mind that as more high the cab is the more powerfull fhe sils may be, at least in my case.
So im running 35w of leds divided by 3 bulbs, 2 13w and one 9w and with this configuration and in that space im getting 29w sqft..
With the ligths raised to 1m heigth of total space i get 19w per sqft with this configuration but woth all of my 9w i get 30w per m2 but will be a more dispersed ligth instead of so directed.
I think im going for the 1m configuration with all the 9w and i will be at 30w sqft, technically the pratically the same wattage per m2 but more dispersed and bounced in the walls..
Also my older girls dont look good and i think after doing this calculations that the lights fhey are getting are not the best option, just finishing my dinner and im going to work on it.
See ya later guys
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Sampas92
Just newbin
Changing the lights to 25w/sqft at least the closest.
Changing the lights to 25w/sqft at least the closest.
So after some measurings, calculations and hand work i changed everything..i found that my older girls were running at 50w sqft wich is not good with these bulbs.
So for the older cab 0.80cm x 0.3 x 0.6 i ended up with 3 13w sils that gives me 27.8w sqft, wich is good, just for comparision with older readings, 20/25k lux readings across the cannopy and the lights are at 27cm distance from the cannopy
Even got one 13w sil left.
On the other cab, i raised the shelf by 30cm and now rhe total height of the grow space is 1m and with 6 9w 3x65k 3x27k i get 30w flat per m2, its a bit higher from what i wanted but its the closest of 25w/m2 that i can get with all the bulbs being the same.
Also since my walls are not the most reflective thing in the world i think one thing compensates where the other lacks.
i still got some space left to lay some things or something that i need, but i cant get the shelf higher because of the light trap and future carbon filter.
From their perspective
In the older configuration with 2 13w and 1 9w i was getting 29w/sqft, the difference is not big, just 1w/sqft higher now, but the light is more spreaded and also the readings come down from 9k lux to 75k lux for what it matters.
Now the lights are exactly at about 47cm distance from the cannopy.
And thats it, i hope that the sad leafs that im seeing on my older girls turn happy and that my youngins like the new setup.
Peace
Changing the lights to 25w/sqft at least the closest.
So after some measurings, calculations and hand work i changed everything..i found that my older girls were running at 50w sqft wich is not good with these bulbs.
So for the older cab 0.80cm x 0.3 x 0.6 i ended up with 3 13w sils that gives me 27.8w sqft, wich is good, just for comparision with older readings, 20/25k lux readings across the cannopy and the lights are at 27cm distance from the cannopy
Even got one 13w sil left.
On the other cab, i raised the shelf by 30cm and now rhe total height of the grow space is 1m and with 6 9w 3x65k 3x27k i get 30w flat per m2, its a bit higher from what i wanted but its the closest of 25w/m2 that i can get with all the bulbs being the same.
Also since my walls are not the most reflective thing in the world i think one thing compensates where the other lacks.
From their perspective
In the older configuration with 2 13w and 1 9w i was getting 29w/sqft, the difference is not big, just 1w/sqft higher now, but the light is more spreaded and also the readings come down from 9k lux to 75k lux for what it matters.
Now the lights are exactly at about 47cm distance from the cannopy.
And thats it, i hope that the sad leafs that im seeing on my older girls turn happy and that my youngins like the new setup.
Peace
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Sampas92
Just newbin
Width 0.30m or 30 cm
Length 0.60m or 60cm
0.3 x 0.6 = 0.18m2
54w:0.18m2=300
Am i wrong?
Fuck im confused now
PCBuds
Well-known member
That sounds about right to me
You've got about 30 Watts per square foot.
You've got just under 2 square feet and 54 Watts, so about 27 Watts per square foot.
You're right in the ballpark.
I remember reading to aim for 25-30 Watts per square foot.
Sampas92
Just newbin
Yes i wrote that and other things wrong and what make explosiv say that i was wrong was because i talked about of the height and i think the confusion is because of that..
Thanks guys
Sampas92
Just newbin
The efficieny of the 9w is 80lm/w so not that great on the ohter hand the 13w are 117lm/w.
I lower the lights to the older rack and now get readings of 10k at about 30 cm from the cannopy.
They are 720lm each, so 4320 lm total at least with cap on, with cap off, who can know kkkk
Peace
PCBuds
Well-known member
Sampas92
Just newbin
Sorry, for a moment or two there I mixed up and read sqf values as sqm.
Or maybe it was written that way and now edited?
Before it was sqm and now is sqft.
Either way i was rechecking my maths and everything looks fine, 30w sqft that i have now.
Now my only doubt is the distance i should keep them appart, for now they are at 30cm from cannopy, but in the next days i will know if i need to raise them or not.
I know that the appmeter is not accurate but besides the leafs is the only way i can read the light intensity and for now is at 10k +/-, at 45cm distance is 7k.
Dunno, i need to wait and i hate to wait kkkkk
Thanks explosiv
Sampas92
Just newbin
Half of the day with the lights after the change
Half of the day with the lights after the change
So my older girls look nicer, i dont know, the overall appearence of the leafs collour and hoe they look
The smaller one
Some pistils 2 nodes under the cannopy
After some time looking at them i get annoied because everyday i see leafs like this
With sweat from other leafs from being all over each other.
This and passive exctration is not a good combo
Half of the day with the lights after the change
So my older girls look nicer, i dont know, the overall appearence of the leafs collour and hoe they look
The smaller one
Some pistils 2 nodes under the cannopy
After some time looking at them i get annoied because everyday i see leafs like this
With sweat from other leafs from being all over each other.
This and passive exctration is not a good combo
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Sampas92
Just newbin
So i grabed my scissors, cleaned it really well with alcool and started to cut the leafs that was over another ones and the ones that was covering the lower branches and they now look like this
The bigger one was the one that was mos trimed, the smaller one i just removed one major fan leaf that was on top of the bigger one
Top view
Also maybe i will water them today and i think i will bump a tiny bit the calmag and the bloom, i think they need it because i see some slight discolouration that i cant pick on camera, im indecise if its they were blasted with light in these past days/times or if is really they telling me they are hungry, i need to think
The bigger one was the one that was mos trimed, the smaller one i just removed one major fan leaf that was on top of the bigger one
Top view
Also maybe i will water them today and i think i will bump a tiny bit the calmag and the bloom, i think they need it because i see some slight discolouration that i cant pick on camera, im indecise if its they were blasted with light in these past days/times or if is really they telling me they are hungry, i need to think
Sampas92
Just newbin
Day 17 Auto Blue Amnesia xxl, first pistils
Day 17 Auto Blue Amnesia xxl, first pistils
So my auto is like this on day 17
She looks good, the only thing i dont like is that twisted leaf on the 3rd set. Some ph problems in the soil?the different soils also have different ph's the lighter one is 6.5 and the all mix one is 6.2..maybe is that dunno, but its only that leaf, the new growth dont show any of it.
In the next grow i will isolate the probes that are burried in the soil,
Also after looking better at her and bending the leafs down to stimulate branching i found her first pistils
Day 17 Auto Blue Amnesia xxl, first pistils
So my auto is like this on day 17
She looks good, the only thing i dont like is that twisted leaf on the 3rd set. Some ph problems in the soil?the different soils also have different ph's the lighter one is 6.5 and the all mix one is 6.2..maybe is that dunno, but its only that leaf, the new growth dont show any of it.
In the next grow i will isolate the probes that are burried in the soil,
Also after looking better at her and bending the leafs down to stimulate branching i found her first pistils
Sampas92
Just newbin
She is so tiny, i hope she will grow a bit more, i guess i should have went with the 15l pot.
Now my skunk is growing good now, im really happy with her
Also some side branching starting to appear
Next time i want to try the 15l aeropot that i have but i also want to try one pot smaller in volume, maybe 10l but with more heigth, maybe 30/40cm on my next and last seed of autos that i have.
