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First time grow (GG #4)

sp4z205

Active member
Hi Everyone,


My Setup:

4x4 gorilla tent
Autopot x4: 12.4 Gallon Reservoir with 3.9 Gallon pots
AC Inline T4 - model# AICLT4
ROI-E420 LED lights
1x clip fan
Clay pebbles
70/30 coco/perlite

Gorilla Glue #4 (F) Photo

I put 4 seeds into paper towels and a ziplock bag 36 hrs ago. I used stable 6.0 ph water with zero added nutrients to soak the paper towels.
They are sitting in a cabinet next to my dishwasher and stay between 75-85 degrees.


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I have soaked my clay pebbles in 6.0 ph water with zero nutrients and will be getting them dried out later today.


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Once the clay pebbles are dry, I will be lining the bottom of my 3.9 gallon pots with 1" of clay pebbles and filling the rest with 70/30 coco/perlite


Once I see ~1-2" of initial root from the seeds I will be placing them in rapid rooter plugs and into solo cups with my coco/perlite mix. I will cut the bottom of the cup out and bury the cup bottom 1-2" into my pots.

I will water inside the cup using my 6.0 ph water with zero added nutrients for 7-10 days.

After 7-10 days I will turn on my reservoir tap with 6.0 ph water and I will not be adding nutrients to the reservoir until ~week 3. Nutrients will be used at 1/3 strength when plants appear established.

Please let me know if I have left out any information that could be helpful and I will update accordingly.

Thank you Everyone!!
 

negative37dBA

Well-known member
Veteran
Hi there. So GG4 fems correct? From who? I grow gg4 a ton, the clone only cut from Mr Wales. GG4 is a real great plant. It has the terp profile that keeps you loving it. She has great frost coverage and grows very predictably. I hope you have great luck with the fem seeds and they give you a product that is respectable. I have a gg4 mono crop going right now. 1 of them is from seed that I made. Happy to report it is looking very much like the original I have next to it. If you need or would like some advice on feeding, topping or anything else let me know. Be happy to help out in any way I can. Love to see people be successful with the glue. She lanky and can do well with topping. Likes calcium and magnesuim a lot too. It will not grow huge thick buds but they will be very high quality
Here's to high quality buds in your future....Have fun with it and hope it goes well. Good choice on a strain to go with by the way. It is the type of plant you could look for all your life and never find...it is awesome.
Have a great day all. Peace, negative.
 

sp4z205

Active member
Hi there. So GG4 fems correct? From who? I grow gg4 a ton, the clone only cut from Mr Wales. GG4 is a real great plant. It has the terp profile that keeps you loving it. She has great frost coverage and grows very predictably. I hope you have great luck with the fem seeds and they give you a product that is respectable. I have a gg4 mono crop going right now. 1 of them is from seed that I made. Happy to report it is looking very much like the original I have next to it. If you need or would like some advice on feeding, topping or anything else let me know. Be happy to help out in any way I can. Love to see people be successful with the glue. She lanky and can do well with topping. Likes calcium and magnesuim a lot too. It will not grow huge thick buds but they will be very high quality
Here's to high quality buds in your future....Have fun with it and hope it goes well. Good choice on a strain to go with by the way. It is the type of plant you could look for all your life and never find...it is awesome.
Have a great day all. Peace, negative.

Hello,

They are from Neptune seedbank, Tonygreen's. They are Fems and are a Recombinant Inbreed Line of Gorilla Bubble BX5 x Gorilla Glue 4 BX6

I've recently read an article on cocoforcannabis describing buffering my Coco/perlite mix with calmag and I will be doing that overnight tonight because I think the seeds will be ready in the next 24/48 hours for planting into my plugs.

I've read a few articles about "mainline" topping and believe I will be sticking with that basic technique for my first try.

I do have 20 seeds of this line total so I plan on attempting to duplicate my grow 5 times.

Thank you for the feedback and the offer for assistance, I am absolutely positive I will be posting many pictures and questions!!
 

negative37dBA

Well-known member
Veteran
That sounds like a cool mix. It will be interesting to see how it comes out compared to the original. I am pretty happy to see the similarities in the seeds I have compared to the original. I have hundreds and in case I lose the clone I do have some sort of back up. I think mainlining is a high stress form of training. That can cause some issues. For a first time try to keep it super simple. The less you have to worry about the more you can concentrate your efforts on what you can control. For 4 plants in a area that size I would pinch the tops at least once to give you more lead heads. Use a trellis to keep them low and spread out for even canopy. 4 will fill up that space with one or 2 toppings real quick.
I see you are running LED....nice there Sir. I as well have made the switch. All LED all the way. There is really no reason not to unless the cost of new equipment is prohibitive right now. It pays for itself pretty quick. Sorry to ramble on.
Have a great day. Peace, negative.
 

flylowgethigh

Non-growing Lurker
ICMag Donor
Good luck with your first run. The learning curve is steep. I suggest getting a 6" fan for the exhaust. The 4"can be used to push intake air (filter it). The ones you set the speed are better IMO than the ones that try to control. I hope the exhaust is going outside. You will probably want a couple more clip-on fans too.

Have some bug killer on hand. Purecrop1 and Green Clean are what I have, and they have killed what I got. Get a sprayer that is dedicated to bug spray only.

The ROI 420 may be OK if you run it hard. I keep my ROI 680 at 75%.

LOL, I am still only less than halfway thru a pak of glue#4 from last Dec (my final buy), and with fresh crops coming in, it is falling further behind.
 

sp4z205

Active member
Checked at 48 hours and I have 1+ inch of taproot on each one.




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So I moved them into their homes.




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Root plug + coco/perlite mix in solo cup, 1.5" in planter. About a half a solo cup in each one of ph 6.0 water.




Their lights will be turning off in ~3 hrs, I have the timer set on 18-6 with lights at 25% intensity.




Thank you all and have a fantastic evening!




Will update with pictures tomorrow morning.
 

sp4z205

Active member
Hi Everyone,

I didn't have any pictures for the morning because there was no real "progress" visually.

I re-watered at 9:30am.

I checked them again this evening and lo and behold!

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The one looked like it was a little tight in the plug so I pulled the top apart a little to let the lady stretch up overnight.

The one still has the seed shell and I'm not going to pull it off as I've read a few things saying that this sometimes happens and I'm hopeful the shell will fall off overnight.

I'm very happy with the progress so far and will be checking them again the morning!

Thank you for reading!
 

sp4z205

Active member
This was yesterday morning - watering once every 12 hours with 6.0 water. EC value reads at .2




The one was still being shy and decided not to drop her shell.




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sp4z205

Active member
This was this morning, following the same routine.


Temp and RH have stayed between 70-75 degrees and 55-58%



I inspected the one that still had the shell very carefully and it looked like it was just barely on the edges, I gave it the smallest of wiggles and it fell right off so now she's in the race fully!




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sp4z205

Active member
They were stretching some so I upped lights to 50% intensity and they don't seem like they stretched further in the past 72 hours.

I added cal-mag solution to feeding 3 days ago and have only been watering them once a day with ~1/3 solo cup full.


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Thank you for reading!
 

sp4z205

Active member
This morning, one decided to lay down - I fed again and I gave her some help standing up. Lights go off in 1.5 hrs so I'll check in 1 hr to see progress


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are they still stretching?

Questions: Should I replant them but bury them further down the stem, or will this cause them to stretch again? If it would cause stretching can I mitigate by increasing my lights further? (currently lights are at 50% intensity).


Thank you for reading.
 

sp4z205

Active member
upped lights to 75% after their sleep period, decided against replanting them. This is after ~5 hours of higher intensity light (75% now) - I have my night cycle from 11am-5pm.

My wife lovingly named them after the Golden Girls.

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Capital_Florica

New member
Yeah, I’d say no need to replant. I would instead just add more soil to your cups, top them off, that’ll bury that stem more. See how they adjust to the increase in light intensity, you could also play with lamp height if you feel that they’re still stretching too much even at 100% intensity.
 

sp4z205

Active member
Yeah, I’d say no need to replant. I would instead just add more soil to your cups, top them off, that’ll bury that stem more. See how they adjust to the increase in light intensity, you could also play with lamp height if you feel that they’re still stretching too much even at 100% intensity.

Thank you for the input! I did that this morning - after this last wake cycle they do look to have stretched a little more so I upped the lights again to 100%.

I absolutely goofed this first time by anchoring my lights to the top instead of setting them on an adjustable system, live and learn. I'm not sure I want to fuss around with setting up the lights again while the girls are in there, I do not want to make a mistake and fall/drop something.
 

flylowgethigh

Non-growing Lurker
ICMag Donor
Having the lights too high will make you run them at a higher setting, which will heat up the air. You should make them adjustable if you can. Now is the easiest it will be for this run.

Good luck on this first run.
 

sp4z205

Active member
Having the lights too high will make you run them at a higher setting, which will heat up the air. You should make them adjustable if you can. Now is the easiest it will be for this run.

Good luck on this first run.

I will have to take a look and see if I can do it carefully on Saturday - unfortunately that's my only free day that I'm able to make it into my local store.
 

sp4z205

Active member
No risk, no reward.

Found the hang cables that came with the light and installed everything (very, very carefully) and lowered it by ~3ft, intensity to 75%

I'll be checking on them every few hours to observe for curling, etc but I'm hoping my light issues are resolved for now.

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