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Feds Shutting Down Harborside....
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Mud Boy
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There's also a benefit to being in their face in a public way. If it's a real war, the feds have to be confronted whenever possible so the public can see for themselves how heavy-handed the government is on this issue. Nothing looks worse for the pigs than feeble, sickly patients in handcuffs.
Ah Capitalism, don't you just love it?
Double F
Member
true capitolism would be like the alcohol industry. you have big players like coors and bud, but small companies like sierra nevada and lagunitas can start small and build their way up. there is a huge craft brew industry that is thriving...
harborsides version is NOT capitalism. the elite want to hijack this industry, with idiotic rules like "no home growing", or "1 year jail sentence for collectives operating without special permit" and BS like that.
does coors and budweiser say that it should be illegal to make my own beer? or that if i start up a small brewery i have to have 250k in my bank account and pay upwards of 50k in permits and non refundable fees.
FUCK THOSE GUYS, fuck i-502, fuck ASA, and fuck CannBe and Harborside. if they try to monopolize the market any further i will burn their facilities and fields to the ground.
harborsides version is NOT capitalism. the elite want to hijack this industry, with idiotic rules like "no home growing", or "1 year jail sentence for collectives operating without special permit" and BS like that.
does coors and budweiser say that it should be illegal to make my own beer? or that if i start up a small brewery i have to have 250k in my bank account and pay upwards of 50k in permits and non refundable fees.
FUCK THOSE GUYS, fuck i-502, fuck ASA, and fuck CannBe and Harborside. if they try to monopolize the market any further i will burn their facilities and fields to the ground.
I think it's sad. The San Jose Harborside is not even a place I would shop anymore. Gave it 3 tries and that's it. Maybe it's different in Oakland but the quality out of SJ is sub par. I really like the brothers who built this, I share degenerative disc disease with Steve and had hoped I would find a recommendation and product there to help with my chronic cervical spine pain but I didn't get anything better than 18-22% and the 22% ( Kosher Kush ) was a throat killer. Again it pains me to write this but that's how it is.
Now get some of those 29.9%+ platinum GSC and I'll be back and buy a pound.in 4 increments of course. If only I knew how to grow these afpak kush seeds. Perhaps another life
You don't need more THC for pain. You need more CBD.
cap·i·tal·ism
/ˈkapətlˌizəm/
noun: capitalism
1.
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
Oh my bad, I thought he said the owner of Harborside worked in cooperation with the government to sell out his competition and have them eliminated in exchange for him having a monopoly on the medical marijuana industry in his area. Which sounded an awful lot like Capitalism to me.
Well I didn't mean it as in good old fashion honest capitalism on a truly free and open market but rather the perversion capitalism tends to become when someone is successful and then greed sets in and rather then being happy with having so much that they have, they proceed to try to take it all.
Yes your bad. When a private firm can work with the STATE to stifle competition THEN it falls outside of the definition ABOVE. Don't you see "rather than by the state?"
You NEED to now read the definition of cronyism, fascism, and protectionism. I feel you will find one of these terms much more applicable to this situation.
It is straight up FASCISM, period.
Burn Baby BURN.
Peace; 1TT
Burn Baby BURN.
Peace; 1TT
in real capitalism, the gov is supposed to be the neutral referee that makes sure no ones rights are infringed. once they get in bed with a company, that is no longer capitalism, as they are no longer the neutral party.
as has been pointed out, that is actually fascism, when gov and industry work together in close conjunction. real capitalism would be when every one has the same chance to succeed, capitalism means the one making the best offer gets the deal, not the one who has the best connections to the gov, or the one who lobbied, bribed or otherwise got the govs back, to get the business.
when you look at the regulation of the pharma industry for example you can see what a joke it is how the regulators go back and forth from their regulating jobs to the industrial side to profit from the regulation they passed while in office. that's not capitalism, that is corruption imo. same with the military industrial complex, the whole contracting system is set up on corruption lobbying and spreading weapons production evenly around the country so not one state can ever be against buying more weapons, so as to keep their locals from losing their jobs.
imagine how easy it is to convince the reps when you say to them, well if you don't vote for the new f50 which will be costing 200 billion, we will be closing down such and such factories in your state and firing so and so many thousands of your constituents, so please see it our way. and bam check and mate, no military hardware expenditure will ever be refused again if they can keep printing the cash to pay for it.
anyway no matter how you look at it, today's system in the western world is not true capitalism, specially not in the US.
the friendly cartel lol. they are only in it for the cash and I hear they play dirty to keep competition down.. don't fool me any.i know d game. don't wear that dress to jail buddy
Yes your bad. When a private firm can work with the STATE to stifle competition THEN it falls outside of the definition ABOVE. Don't you see "rather than by the state?"
You NEED to now read the definition of cronyism, fascism, and protectionism. I feel you will find one of these terms much more applicable to this situation.
In the definition above they're talking about the state as far as the business. At the end of the day Harborside runs the business without the state and all the state gets from it in the way of income is the same types of taxes the state collects on all businesses. I doubt that the state is listed anywhere in the financial papers for Harborside.
cro·ny·ism (krn-zm)
n.
Favoritism shown to old friends without regard for their qualifications, as in political appointments to office.
I'm not familiar with the politicians on the West Coast, did the owner of Harborside grow up with the Mayor or something? Was the owner of Harborside brought in to run Harborside without any experience or did he do like most dispensaries and build it from the ground up? Otherwise cronyism doesn't really fit.
fas·cism noun \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\
: a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government
: very harsh control or authority
While some people spin things to incorrectly make the argument our current government is a lot like fascism that has nothing to do with what's going on at Harborside. Not unless you're saying the owner of Harborside was/is Kim Jong-un's BFF from childhood and it was Kim Jong-un that got him set up in Harborside, then the whole fascism/cronyism thing would make sense.
pro·tec·tion·ism
/prəˈtekSHəˌnizəm/
noun
Economics
noun: protectionism
1.
the theory or practice of shielding a country's domestic industries from foreign competition by taxing imports.
Unless we're taxing the Mexican Cartels I don't think protectionism fits at all.
Well like I said before I wasn't talking the good old honest American capitalism of our Grandfathers but rather the corrupted beast that passes for capitalism these days. Corporations oddly seemed nicer before they became persons.
I disagree that the government meddling in a way that gives someone an unfair advantage is a correct definition of fascism. Fascism as I see it is when the state says, "Everything is ours, we control it all and you just do what we tell you to do." If you want to label what's going on in some political term and be correct I think we need to come up with a new term. I would suggest corruptionism because it seems we have corrupt business working hand in hand with corrupt government.
