Fastest strains for north of 50 latitude ???

[Tynehead Tom]

thanx Highcountry, will keep my eyes peeled for those strains
Looking forward to journaling my summer project and will document results for future use

 

[misterD]

Chitral kush isn't the most extreme early plant, but that crazy how she's resistant to cold, heavy rain, etc!

 

[Highcountry]

Highcountry, So you can take clones of IAF, How many hrs of light do you have to keep them on?
PG = Prince George ?
Please keep us posted on how the hasha and texada purps work out for you.

Peace GG

I keep my iaf on 24 hrs. PG is Prince George.

 

[Tynehead Tom]

Chitral kush isn't the most extreme early plant, but that crazy how she's resistant to cold, heavy rain, etc!

I'm going to build a 25 or 30ft x 12ft x 12ft high greenhouse out back. Will use a few 20ft 2x10's around perimeter and anchor flexible PVC hoses to those and arc them up and over t desired height. very simple and easy, nothing new design wise, just dead simple. will have plywood end walls/door , propane heaters for the last few weeks of sept/oct


I've done this every year but disassemble come winter , as winter here simply destroys the materials. still, I'd like to harvest earlier so it doesn't interfere with my busy fall schedule, and so I can find some plants that will survive on their own in smallish plots off in the great expanse of uninhabited areas in my region.

 

[crazy_eagle]

Bin using peak seeds texadatimewarpxnorthernlights on the west coast with great succsess!

 

[misterD]

I'm going to build a 25 or 30ft x 12ft x 12ft high greenhouse out back. Will use a few 20ft 2x10's around perimeter and anchor flexible PVC hoses to those and arc them up and over t desired height. very simple and easy, nothing new design wise, just dead simple. will have plywood end walls/door , propane heaters for the last few weeks of sept/oct


I've done this every year but disassemble come winter , as winter here simply destroys the materials. still, I'd like to harvest earlier so it doesn't interfere with my busy fall schedule, and so I can find some plants that will survive on their own in smallish plots off in the great expanse of uninhabited areas in my region.

Yeah, pck can goes to mid october. Depending on pheno, but the most purple are the common one. And they hide very well du to her blackish colour and her none smell!

PS: She take a lot of roots space.

 

[niceeven]

Gorilla Ganga

I have to say you are quite persistant.

This is what I know. Some tried in the field others from hearing.

Freezeland ? Too late. Many from Québec have tried it up at 53N in Alberta and I have not heard of too many who have finished it. From what I hear there is a few of them now. Not the original one for sure. Maybe in a good year.

Manitoba medecine I have't been able to find it, heard great things about it. it may work for you

The GG#2 would work good if you found it in the original form.

The guy who talks about Québec clones like ¨LE Petit Vite and 'la rose de Germanie¨..so forth knows what he is talking about... try finding them though.

The person who tells you the Mighty Mite is a great tool to shorten earlier tops very much knows what he is talking about, great tip. Maybe the best one you got on those pages. Try to find a good line though. Most commercial offerings seem to be average at best. The best I know of that's commercial right now may be 'the reeferman MM' Look for the Mid august short indica dom. M-MITE not the frigging 6' tall 'MM' thats, sativa dominant. The shorter ones are closer to the original ones.

That 'Hasha' deal may be the jackpot if it was true.

Any 'auto affie' 'auto afghan' whatever... crosses would be good. I stumbled into one of them a few years ago and I was a happy puppy, still am. Don't pass them over if you find.

Those Rusky deal may work don't know.

RCMC tends to be offering stuff that's generally to late for you. Some may work. I have fast Bionic G that I've set aside for a few years now, I may grow it this summer. Patriot Medicine was a bust here.

Hybrids from Hell maybe. Keep in mind that Denmark has a Mid-october finish. Whatever works near Montréal won't work for you the same way. If that was the case you may as well use Freeze. ( Sans vouloir contredire mon frère Franc-Pousseur)

The best commercial one i've tried here (53N) was Iranian Auto. BUT!!!! last time I grew it they seemed to be different, he may have reworked it. 2014 was the last time I tried them and I had 50% pheno's that would have gone end of September had hard frost not being here much sooner that year. There was a 25% way early, very auto and another 25% just right. They where quite nice, nicer than what I had grown in 2013 and 2012. The first two years they were very similar but as I say in 2014 they had changed. Flavour improved but inconsistent. I don't know what they look like now. The 'iranian auto crosses ' Bubba and whatever where all too late for me.


most BC so called early strains I would be leery about. Texada is one I've not tried but I have a hunch it may be a good bet, you may want to try that.

Citral Kush: too late for here, I've tried them. You may be able to pull it off in native soils just amended at the organic level with lime or powdered egg shells as they would stay smaller and want to turn sooner . If you do that look for silt silicate layer, not clay or sand. If you pull it off they can be quite nice.

Most Dutch- Spanish whatever strains: don't even bother. The autos will all work but beware of poor mould resistance.

You are growing at a very finicky lat. brother, you are. But once you find your strains its,s quite rewarding.

I just could not resist.

Good luck

niceven

 

[Ras Mason]

le petit vite.
Widow offshoot.
Ready around the 18th of july @ 47north

 

[Tynehead Tom]

has anyone else heard of landcruiser?
It's what they call it here in BC interior. I do know it finishes in sept around 3 feet to 4 feet at 3000 feet elevation between 50 and 52N
I've never seen it live, just hanging and trying the smoke after a 20 day cure. It's smooth and lemony but potency is so low I can't be bothered to try it. Maybe could be reworked with some potency included but I'm not going down that road.
I'm now seriously thinking auto or semi auto might be the ticket but then again I'm back to ...... so many strains, so little time. LOL
this is a good thread, one i'll be keeping tabs on

 

[Tynehead Tom]

Yeah, pck can goes to mid october. Depending on pheno, but the most purple are the common one. And they hide very well du to her blackish colour and her none smell!

PS: She take a lot of roots space.

yes I was thinking 2 females in a 4x4 x 2ft deep rolling planter in the greenhouse. And heaters to keep temps in range. might be more work than it's worth LOL
Ideally for where I am a guy needs to excavate down 3 feet and build the green house with the roof sloping to the sun and a garage door opener on 12/12 pulling a pool cover to make the greenhouse go dark hehehehe

 

[bluntmassa]

Keep us posted with what works for you Tynehead Tom.
Finding great strains for north of 50 is not easy. Especially if you want to stay away from Indica strains or autos.
Cheers GG

Depends what 50 you mean at 45 New England we can still do some shit but not like 50 BC Canada. Can't go wrong with Early Skunk Mr. Nice and it's cheap last year I bought a spring cleaning pack at auction (1 gram seed) around 100 seeds they did good and I got more seeds for this year only 1 plant got mold and not too bad. I am going to be running other shit this summer mostly just Mr. Nice though.

 

[gorilla ganja]

I usually don't like to quote something this long. But It's nice to see someone that understands just how hard it is to find strains for this far North.
A lot of the strains mentioned here are from growers around 45 Latitude. Now it's not easy finding good strains for around 45 either but it's a different game all together at 55 Latitude.

It's not just an early frost. Even further south they get early frost.
It's the dam long daylight hrs that stop most strains from even starting to flower until just before killing frost.
To make it even more difficult, I loves the Sativa's.

Thank's for the great info niceeven.
Thank you everyone else that is sharing first hand info as well.
Please remember to post Latitude and breeders everyone, so we can try and make a better strain guide for the far North.

Peace GG

Gorilla Ganga

I have to say you are quite persistant.

This is what I know. Some tried in the field others from hearing.

Freezeland ? Too late. Many from Québec have tried it up at 53N in Alberta and I have not heard of too many who have finished it. From what I hear there is a few of them now. Not the original one for sure. Maybe in a good year.

Manitoba medecine I have't been able to find it, heard great things about it. it may work for you

The GG#2 would work good if you found it in the original form.

The guy who talks about Québec clones like ¨LE Petit Vite and 'la rose de Germanie¨..so forth knows what he is talking about... try finding them though.

The person who tells you the Mighty Mite is a great tool to shorten earlier tops very much knows what he is talking about, great tip. Maybe the best one you got on those pages. Try to find a good line though. Most commercial offerings seem to be average at best. The best I know of that's commercial right now may be 'the reeferman MM' Look for the Mid august short indica dom. M-MITE not the frigging 6' tall 'MM' thats, sativa dominant. The shorter ones are closer to the original ones.

That 'Hasha' deal may be the jackpot if it was true.

Any 'auto affie' 'auto afghan' whatever... crosses would be good. I stumbled into one of them a few years ago and I was a happy puppy, still am. Don't pass them over if you find.

Those Rusky deal may work don't know.

RCMC tends to be offering stuff that's generally to late for you. Some may work. I have fast Bionic G that I've set aside for a few years now, I may grow it this summer. Patriot Medicine was a bust here.

Hybrids from Hell maybe. Keep in mind that Denmark has a Mid-october finish. Whatever works near Montréal won't work for you the same way. If that was the case you may as well use Freeze. ( Sans vouloir contredire mon frère Franc-Pousseur)

The best commercial one i've tried here (53N) was Iranian Auto. BUT!!!! last time I grew it they seemed to be different, he may have reworked it. 2014 was the last time I tried them and I had 50% pheno's that would have gone end of September had hard frost not being here much sooner that year. There was a 25% way early, very auto and another 25% just right. They where quite nice, nicer than what I had grown in 2013 and 2012. The first two years they were very similar but as I say in 2014 they had changed. Flavour improved but inconsistent. I don't know what they look like now. The 'iranian auto crosses ' Bubba and whatever where all too late for me.


most BC so called early strains I would be leery about. Texada is one I've not tried but I have a hunch it may be a good bet, you may want to try that.

Citral Kush: too late for here, I've tried them. You may be able to pull it off in native soils just amended at the organic level with lime or powdered egg shells as they would stay smaller and want to turn sooner . If you do that look for silt silicate layer, not clay or sand. If you pull it off they can be quite nice.

Most Dutch- Spanish whatever strains: don't even bother. The autos will all work but beware of poor mould resistance.

You are growing at a very finicky lat. brother, you are. But once you find your strains its,s quite rewarding.

I just could not resist.

Good luck

niceven

 

[rykus]

I found here in lower BC the early ones are mould prone, but finish so fast it's usually ok...

Sea level and egmont both fall in this, but will make good crosses with mould resistant ones for a bigger yield and mould resistance.

Time warp will go through hell and back and yield great, not to mouldy unless in cold dark with bad morning sun.feeds heavy so often pales off and doesn't burn ideal. Crosses real nice and has great structure, can cut big buds by sept 15th, but goes black literally by October...

I think I already mentioned by I lived in the Yukon for a few years and they crossed a ruderalis with a white widow/northern lights cross. Some would finish early and be an ounce or too, but some got big and wouldn't always make it....

An old timer where I live has a strain he grew in port hardy for a long time, like 35 years.... Will grow big bud in a sleet storm! But taste is harsh and generally unpleasant, potent enoug though.... I worked some stuff from the cash creek area too, was all old Durban and some other old local flavour.

I'd try time warp, and if seeds the mighty might X's are ok usually, emerald wonder was good for a seed bank strain, all the others where pretty bunk when I was looking...

 

[Ras Mason]

so, since the bomb has been dropped, Timewarp tested at about 20% THC and 5 to 7% CBD. Grown outdoors in front of texada on the coast. saw it myself.
peace
jf

 

[potty1]

Lat 54.5 uk
Female seeds red purps is a banker also,sept finish.only does about 5ft max though so need numbers with them.potent enough with a strong 'blackhash' taste.
I ended up making my own stuff (mainly using royaldane and danish gold as the male.)
Royal dane a great strain to add earlyness and mold resistance
.i enjoy royaldane on its own but it's not overly potent.mildly skunk with 3 phenos.shows lovely colour.
Danish gold was a pheno hunt but some lively phenos to be found.just the finishing times were all over the place(Although all were early enough to finish here before frosts)

 

[Tynehead Tom]

texada timewarp has been around for decades is a sea level strain, born, bred and refined in the gulf islands of BC, where it flourishes. It will not finish at 51N either, not even close.
I grew many "indoor" strains back in the day down at or near sea level. Northern Lights 5, Shiskaberry, and a strain called mortgage buster.... or "mad grape" as we liked to call it. All did fantastic and finished perfect outdoor down there.

 

[misterD]

Honestly, back to the "le petit vite" she's still the only one i see doable far north like that!

Whenever you put her outside, you know what so ever 10 weeks later you'll crop big bud of reekin lemony smell!

Grade B+

 

[misterD]

Wild 1 from HFH under T5 at 15/9 of light, 5 weeks old. Still no sex, but i'm about to pinch her/....him real soon!

 

[gorilla ganja]

Hey misterD,
Please keep us posted on the Wild strain. I have a bunch of them for this yr.
I have heard of auto tendencies on some, but doesn't look like you have that problem.

Any idea where to get le petit vite or some info on it??

Peace GG

 

[St. Phatty]

/\ picture is Apollo 11 F3 at 53 days. Fairly fast finishing.


Dinafem Fruit Automatic was pretty good.


Also, sometimes Apollo 11 finishes up REALLY fast, like 6 weeks indoors in one case, more often 7 1/2 weeks.

Most people would harvest the Apollo 11 sooner, I like to let it go, as long as it's putting on pistils and resin.

That's from TGA, and it is similar to the C99 sold by Bros Grimm.

I made a few F3's (Apollo x Apollo), and they are coming in very handy.

I have a geographical situation with my outdoor area that makes me look for a fast finisher also. I lose the sun after about October 1. It's like growing in Alaska.