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Fire said:
Ogers is from a seed on the chemdog, whether hermie, or pollen from another source,
CBF
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3legdog said:Nice CBF ^^. Always the goods from you my friend ! Takr easy & have a great Sunday....Yf 3ld
heya 3ld, that info comes from the diesel history from the first page of this thread.
seems all the guys that were involved with the deez origins have finally came out and got together and worked out the details of the deez, very good thread over on OG. search Chemdog.
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yeah, that thread on sour deez is rediculous.. good info in there. the best. i can't believe how tight-knit that group has become..
3legdog
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Thanks buddy & im experiencing my 1st Deez(ECSDv3) right now & it's smell has taken over the garden 
@ 8 weeks flowering today 
. Also nice to hear that all the Deez info is coming together & getting put out to the masses. Sometimes w/o people like you who do the researchn' we(meaning my lasy/too busy ass) stay in the dark. Peace all yf 3ld 
@ 8 weeks flowering today . Also nice to hear that all the Deez info is coming together & getting put out to the masses. Sometimes w/o people like you who do the researchn' we(meaning my lasy/too busy ass) stay in the dark. Peace all yf 3ld 
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Excelent resource.. Props CBF
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Hi all,
really love this thread! i took the liberty to quote the list to post it in french-spoken forums, FCF
I think it was quite a good idea because they are some new "clone only" strains to add to this list:
Salmon Creek Big Bud
Edelweiss
Master Bud
Big Dom
Big Skunk
Top44
Victory
Fraise
Bye, jul.
really love this thread! i took the liberty to quote the list to post it in french-spoken forums, FCF
I think it was quite a good idea because they are some new "clone only" strains to add to this list:
Salmon Creek Big Bud
Edelweiss
Master Bud
Big Dom
Big Skunk
Top44
Victory
Fraise
Bye, jul.
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i personally do NOT believe that OG kush is a seed from the east coast chemdawg or diesel. no way. having smoked the EC chem/dawg that started the diesel lines, i can say, that the og kush is definitely not the same flavor as the chem/dawg. the diesel etc are slight disel afterflavor. the og k is a ultra thick tongue KUSH flavor is the only way to describe it. not the same IMHO. not even really that close. maybe share SOME similar terpene profiles, but thats no different than comparing two strains that have slightly similar smells (hardly in the case of the ogk and sour d IMO) but come from different plant heritage.
if anything, the og kush and sour diesel may, and i stress may, share relation with the ORIGINAL COLORADO chemdawg clone. but fact is so the diesel heritage story goes, the east coast chemdawg is a hermie seed from bud that came from a pound of co. chemdawg. so at best, the ec chemdawg is a S1, or a S1 hybrid with another plant in the room of CO chem (which may be the plant that shares og kush relation, i haven't smoked original chemdawg from CO so i dont know). so then add in the sensi nl, mass. super skunk, dnl, and rfk which are hybrids supposedly in themselves and u are lookin at the current sour diesel clone, which would make the sour d, at best, a super watered down chemdawg.
now based on growing original diesel, sour d, and og k, i would say that the only way, if even remotely possible, that the OG kush came from a diesel bean, is that the "bean of diesel or ec chemdawg that became the og kush" expresses complete dominance of the original chemdawg from CO, minus the diesel's hermie traits, horrible pest resistance, etc.... pretty improbable based on how the og kush doesn't have herm problems that i have ever seen and is much better with pest resistance, and this is also, actually assuming that the OG kush is in relation with the original CO chemdawg which as far as i know has yet to be verified by anyone.
Fire, trying to make a heritage chart on the "cloneonlys" of today, (i know some of it can be done b/c the creators are in contact with people but the vast majority are not) with without genetic testing, or talking to the original person that popped the "cloneonly" seed and spread that clone will only spread more misinformation. its cool to speculate, its fun, but people need to stop trying to say that they KNOW this or that about a plants heritage although they have no idea who actally popped the original beans and what heritage they came from. now given the diesel side of the story is being made fact by the people in the thread at overgrow. but there has yet to be ANYONE claim they created the og kush, popped the beans, selected from individuals, etc, or even remotely know the exact heritage of the OG KUSH, and show any kind of proff. its ALL speculation on that side, so lets leave it at that until truth can be shown and proved. not to mention, the people that often popped these cloneonly from seed, dont know what the exact heritage of the seed they popped is anyways so it would be hard for them to even tell u. its basically impossible to do without putting out more misinformation than there already is.
if anything, the og kush and sour diesel may, and i stress may, share relation with the ORIGINAL COLORADO chemdawg clone. but fact is so the diesel heritage story goes, the east coast chemdawg is a hermie seed from bud that came from a pound of co. chemdawg. so at best, the ec chemdawg is a S1, or a S1 hybrid with another plant in the room of CO chem (which may be the plant that shares og kush relation, i haven't smoked original chemdawg from CO so i dont know). so then add in the sensi nl, mass. super skunk, dnl, and rfk which are hybrids supposedly in themselves and u are lookin at the current sour diesel clone, which would make the sour d, at best, a super watered down chemdawg.
now based on growing original diesel, sour d, and og k, i would say that the only way, if even remotely possible, that the OG kush came from a diesel bean, is that the "bean of diesel or ec chemdawg that became the og kush" expresses complete dominance of the original chemdawg from CO, minus the diesel's hermie traits, horrible pest resistance, etc.... pretty improbable based on how the og kush doesn't have herm problems that i have ever seen and is much better with pest resistance, and this is also, actually assuming that the OG kush is in relation with the original CO chemdawg which as far as i know has yet to be verified by anyone.
Fire, trying to make a heritage chart on the "cloneonlys" of today, (i know some of it can be done b/c the creators are in contact with people but the vast majority are not) with without genetic testing, or talking to the original person that popped the "cloneonly" seed and spread that clone will only spread more misinformation. its cool to speculate, its fun, but people need to stop trying to say that they KNOW this or that about a plants heritage although they have no idea who actally popped the original beans and what heritage they came from. now given the diesel side of the story is being made fact by the people in the thread at overgrow. but there has yet to be ANYONE claim they created the og kush, popped the beans, selected from individuals, etc, or even remotely know the exact heritage of the OG KUSH, and show any kind of proff. its ALL speculation on that side, so lets leave it at that until truth can be shown and proved. not to mention, the people that often popped these cloneonly from seed, dont know what the exact heritage of the seed they popped is anyways so it would be hard for them to even tell u. its basically impossible to do without putting out more misinformation than there already is.
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thadocta said:
Thank you for your input doc.
I am not trying to spread misinformation in anyway. My spreadsheet is for myself and for educational purposes only. No intentions were considered in any way to advise the public on what is fact or fiction. I am just obsessed with lineage and how far they trace back, pertaining to what I would be growing. The forums are a source of knowledge, found no where else, and I simply decided to ask a simple question of the genetic make up of OGK. If the simple answer is 'it's a mystery' I would of greatly accepted it.
Again, I greatly appreciate your input, but do not assume that I am trying to mis-inform anyone or spread un-proven hype. It was just a question of curiosity....please excuse me
thanks
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no worries fire....i wasn't directly pointing at u for spreading misinfo, i was just saying its kinda impossible for it to be all correct, of course. and the easy answer at this point in time is completely unknown. laters
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hello there
great thread.
peace
great thread.
peace
hidingtree
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yes indeed ..... awsome thread ... love the part about the history of the chem/dawg,diesel , sour ......that answers alot of questions about it ... nicely written . still would love to know the orgin of the mystery indica strain of the chem ......it is definitely some of the finest ... (i've only had the upstate ny sour dies)however , it is still one of the best imho.many blessingsand thanks, hidingtree
wow revived a thread a year old here
Chefboy
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what makes a clone elite anyway? does a clone become elite only thru feedback by word of mouth via internet and hands on experience?
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thanks ... makes sense
