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heres a nice story on the G13. goes along well with all the other origins about on the G.............
Hi, all
I thought I could add some history to help back hempy's point.
The G-13 clone was discovered by a guy named Sandy Wienstien. A
founding member of Sacred Seeds, Breeder of Early Girl, He also
discovered the Bay Area Durban Poison clone (the same clone All dutch
DP is based on). During the mid
70's Sandy W and members of the Bay Area (SK#1) group were working in
cooperation on some of their afgans. A couple of the plants intro'd
early into
both programs brought a near fatal vunerabilty to grey mold. Both
programs had
to backtrack while new afgans were found to replace the culled
plants, as well as beginig an extensive tourure testing program for
the remaning stock.
Sandy had a group of friends, growers who lived in his area (S.Ark-N
Miss)
One of these friends was a grower, and first year botany student who
had,
by shear accident, landed a job working with Carlton Turner , who ran
the US gov. pot program @ U of Miss. Sandy's friends job? using the
early,rather primitive tests they had at the time to test Afganica
plants for THC level!
As Sandy's Early Girl program in the MW and the Skunk#1 people in
Cali were on
a desperate search for Afganicas. Sandy enlisted his friend to send
him anything
"interesting". Sandy's friend sent him 23 plants in all, and to
differetiate these from his regular Afgani stock, which he labeled
A1, A2 etc., Sandy designated his
"government" plants G1-23. None of these were used in any Sacred
Seeds breeding program. Sandy saved only a very few of these
G clones, among these was G-13. He was to busy and never had a chance
to do anything with it, so it stayed on the shelf. But he saved it
knowing it was a special plant, a "sport".
In its pure form it was apparently not very pleasant smoke, tasting
like lawn
clippings, soaked in a mixture of urine and feces (fecal flavors are
common in pure afganicas) with a lovelly aftertaste of burning tires.
The shear power could not be
denied however and that's what made the strain's rep. As I sayed,
G-13 was a breeders plant, (see MJ Botony p70) for a description of a
sport but basically it's
a plant that shows benificial mutations which can be passed down to
the next gen. In the case of G-13 it was a scraglly plant with lowish
yields, but it had the
desirable trait of massive resin production. So much so, that if you
let it go to long
it could supposedly choke itself. Some sativas can do this, what
Shanti calls the "Widow" sport is an example, but it's very rare in
an indica.
It was during Nevil's 83/84 collection trips to the US that he
aquired, from Sandy W the only G-13 cuttings to ever leave Sandy's
garden. Nevil returned to Holland
and made three crosses with G-13 @ the Seed Bank.
G-13x Haze (in catolog only 1 yr, discontinued, no extent P1's)
G-13x Hashplant (discontinued, currently Sensi Seeds: mr nice)
G-13x Skunk#1 (last and, according to Nevil, the best of the G
crosses.
Nev gave Shanti the last of this stock. Shanti, after
suffering alarmingly low germ rates initially from the
20 year old seeds, put them though a number of
breeding cycles and you all lucky bastarts are beta
testing the results.)
Sandy Wienstein passed away in 1987. If you have the '88 edition of
Mel's
Indoor Guide, then you have Mel's wonderfull euligy to his friend.
(Mel was
part of the upstate NY group, which was a sattelitte of Sandy's
midwest group.
Mel and Co. were not breeders but the ran beta grows for Sandy's
Early Girl
proj. Just look pic's captioned Durban poison x Afgani in upstate NY
from any
of mel's books.)
For those who don't have this vintage edition, just turn your copy of
Mel's
Deluxe MJ grow guide to the back cover. The guy in the red pendelton
shirt
and the long hair and shades, Thats Sandy. You owe him more than you
know
nom de fluer
\
CBF
Hi, all
I thought I could add some history to help back hempy's point.
The G-13 clone was discovered by a guy named Sandy Wienstien. A
founding member of Sacred Seeds, Breeder of Early Girl, He also
discovered the Bay Area Durban Poison clone (the same clone All dutch
DP is based on). During the mid
70's Sandy W and members of the Bay Area (SK#1) group were working in
cooperation on some of their afgans. A couple of the plants intro'd
early into
both programs brought a near fatal vunerabilty to grey mold. Both
programs had
to backtrack while new afgans were found to replace the culled
plants, as well as beginig an extensive tourure testing program for
the remaning stock.
Sandy had a group of friends, growers who lived in his area (S.Ark-N
Miss)
One of these friends was a grower, and first year botany student who
had,
by shear accident, landed a job working with Carlton Turner , who ran
the US gov. pot program @ U of Miss. Sandy's friends job? using the
early,rather primitive tests they had at the time to test Afganica
plants for THC level!
As Sandy's Early Girl program in the MW and the Skunk#1 people in
Cali were on
a desperate search for Afganicas. Sandy enlisted his friend to send
him anything
"interesting". Sandy's friend sent him 23 plants in all, and to
differetiate these from his regular Afgani stock, which he labeled
A1, A2 etc., Sandy designated his
"government" plants G1-23. None of these were used in any Sacred
Seeds breeding program. Sandy saved only a very few of these
G clones, among these was G-13. He was to busy and never had a chance
to do anything with it, so it stayed on the shelf. But he saved it
knowing it was a special plant, a "sport".
In its pure form it was apparently not very pleasant smoke, tasting
like lawn
clippings, soaked in a mixture of urine and feces (fecal flavors are
common in pure afganicas) with a lovelly aftertaste of burning tires.
The shear power could not be
denied however and that's what made the strain's rep. As I sayed,
G-13 was a breeders plant, (see MJ Botony p70) for a description of a
sport but basically it's
a plant that shows benificial mutations which can be passed down to
the next gen. In the case of G-13 it was a scraglly plant with lowish
yields, but it had the
desirable trait of massive resin production. So much so, that if you
let it go to long
it could supposedly choke itself. Some sativas can do this, what
Shanti calls the "Widow" sport is an example, but it's very rare in
an indica.
It was during Nevil's 83/84 collection trips to the US that he
aquired, from Sandy W the only G-13 cuttings to ever leave Sandy's
garden. Nevil returned to Holland
and made three crosses with G-13 @ the Seed Bank.
G-13x Haze (in catolog only 1 yr, discontinued, no extent P1's)
G-13x Hashplant (discontinued, currently Sensi Seeds: mr nice)
G-13x Skunk#1 (last and, according to Nevil, the best of the G
crosses.
Nev gave Shanti the last of this stock. Shanti, after
suffering alarmingly low germ rates initially from the
20 year old seeds, put them though a number of
breeding cycles and you all lucky bastarts are beta
testing the results.)
Sandy Wienstein passed away in 1987. If you have the '88 edition of
Mel's
Indoor Guide, then you have Mel's wonderfull euligy to his friend.
(Mel was
part of the upstate NY group, which was a sattelitte of Sandy's
midwest group.
Mel and Co. were not breeders but the ran beta grows for Sandy's
Early Girl
proj. Just look pic's captioned Durban poison x Afgani in upstate NY
from any
of mel's books.)
For those who don't have this vintage edition, just turn your copy of
Mel's
Deluxe MJ grow guide to the back cover. The guy in the red pendelton
shirt
and the long hair and shades, Thats Sandy. You owe him more than you
know
nom de fluer
\
CBF
