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Ed RoSeNtHaL: SuPeR BuD
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This thread has moved to ALL ACCESS PASS
Just wanted anyone following this thread to know that I've consolidated my posts about this strain in my updated thread: ALL ACCESS PASS.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=103409&page=1&pp=15
You can click on that link above or the dancing gal in my signature to check out the new stuff.
This thread has moved to ALL ACCESS PASS
Just wanted anyone following this thread to know that I've consolidated my posts about this strain in my updated thread: ALL ACCESS PASS.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=103409&page=1&pp=15
You can click on that link above or the dancing gal in my signature to check out the new stuff.
Joe Hawkins
Active member
Gday mate, thought Id drop my 2 cents in on the ED!
I finished a tray (9 plants, 4x4 flood & drain table) of ERSB about 6 weeks ago under 600 watts yielded just over a pound from two diffrent phenos.
I rounded it down to 2 female survivors from ten beans.
1 pheno looked just like the Sensi promo pic, the other lent to the Sativa side with the buds not being so compact yet it did yield nicely and actually finished earlier than the more Nuggety variety.
Both were very fruity But the smell from the Sativa one was OVER THE TOP FRUITY, layers upon layers of flavours like fruit loops, fruit tingles, pineapple and mango.
I am smoking it right now, and to really appreciate those flavours a decent 4 week+ cure, Ive been smoking it since i piced it but put some stuff away and got it out last night, and it reeks of mango and tastes quite Fruity.
I dont think it quite delivers the final taste though of what it promises in flower,although it is nice, I now have a tent full of 4 different AK's, and My next run is going to be White Russian, I threw a mate a White Russian bean last year for outdoor and the bud grew into a bloody bowling ball it was huge, but the reason Im going with the WR is coz I prefer the taste of the White strains, the white family has a very distinct flavour I just really lust.
I finished a tray (9 plants, 4x4 flood & drain table) of ERSB about 6 weeks ago under 600 watts yielded just over a pound from two diffrent phenos.
I rounded it down to 2 female survivors from ten beans.
1 pheno looked just like the Sensi promo pic, the other lent to the Sativa side with the buds not being so compact yet it did yield nicely and actually finished earlier than the more Nuggety variety.
Both were very fruity But the smell from the Sativa one was OVER THE TOP FRUITY, layers upon layers of flavours like fruit loops, fruit tingles, pineapple and mango.
I am smoking it right now, and to really appreciate those flavours a decent 4 week+ cure, Ive been smoking it since i piced it but put some stuff away and got it out last night, and it reeks of mango and tastes quite Fruity.
I dont think it quite delivers the final taste though of what it promises in flower,although it is nice, I now have a tent full of 4 different AK's, and My next run is going to be White Russian, I threw a mate a White Russian bean last year for outdoor and the bud grew into a bloody bowling ball it was huge, but the reason Im going with the WR is coz I prefer the taste of the White strains, the white family has a very distinct flavour I just really lust.
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Glad you dug your ERSB Joe....I'd have to concur....it's all way over the top fruity-licious. I'd like to see if your description of the high is similar to what I described before. Sensi just makes quality strains, I know there was alot of hype and misinformation about ERSB....but it's just that.
I don't know if you ever had this experience, but this about sums it up: when I was in college years ago, there were courses I'd think about taking...and invariably someone would say "Don't take that class, it's real tough"...or "the professor is a reall ahole"....or "that course sucks balls..etc.".
Sometimes against the tide of criticism, I'd take a course others would shy away from, only to find the rumors unfounded. The lesson here: it's best to experience things yourself. It makes sense to listen to the opinions of others, but don't judge until you've actually done it.
In the case of ERSB, I'm glad I did. When people complain about the cost of seeds, I can only marginally understand it....if it cost me $140.00 for 10 seeds, and I even get 1 killer plant out of it.....it's a no brainer. I'd easily have spent that on quality weed if I weren't growing my own...
I guess comparitively seeds can be relatively expensive...but none are truly out of the realm of reasonable prices....for what you get in return.
Nonetheless, I'm glad to see there's still interest in ERSB. I'll be posting more about that strain and others in my "ALL ACCESS PASS" thread. It's just easier to consolidate everything over there. I invite you and everyone to click on the little dancing girl in the lower left hand corner of this post....and you'll be whisked away to a land of wonder and surprise...CU there! P.S.-there's new pictures of Ed on the way there!
I don't know if you ever had this experience, but this about sums it up: when I was in college years ago, there were courses I'd think about taking...and invariably someone would say "Don't take that class, it's real tough"...or "the professor is a reall ahole"....or "that course sucks balls..etc.".
Sometimes against the tide of criticism, I'd take a course others would shy away from, only to find the rumors unfounded. The lesson here: it's best to experience things yourself. It makes sense to listen to the opinions of others, but don't judge until you've actually done it.
In the case of ERSB, I'm glad I did. When people complain about the cost of seeds, I can only marginally understand it....if it cost me $140.00 for 10 seeds, and I even get 1 killer plant out of it.....it's a no brainer. I'd easily have spent that on quality weed if I weren't growing my own...
I guess comparitively seeds can be relatively expensive...but none are truly out of the realm of reasonable prices....for what you get in return.
Nonetheless, I'm glad to see there's still interest in ERSB. I'll be posting more about that strain and others in my "ALL ACCESS PASS" thread. It's just easier to consolidate everything over there. I invite you and everyone to click on the little dancing girl in the lower left hand corner of this post....and you'll be whisked away to a land of wonder and surprise...CU there! P.S.-there's new pictures of Ed on the way there!
Joe Hawkins
Active member
I hear ya on the cost issue access, considering what you reap, the bean price is negligible considering I actually used to travel to Europe and Canada (from Australia) to collect my beans.
But I suppose the old 'bean cost' arguement is that there are always so many phenos with any strain and there are little to no actual true breeders however some companies do better than others with consistency of phenotype. but even though a pheno can look like its brother, is it going to taste the same? is it going to knock you flying or make you paranoid?
You're also making that compromise in a ten bean pack of flavour vs yield etc, although most of the time with quality breeders you are happy with a one or two from that pack but often left wishing for a combination of the phenotypes youre left with. With 100 beans you could cover most of what you want out of that particular strain ie, One Pheno that Yields well, Tastes fantastic, Not stretchy, the list goes on, you get the picture.......
To get a truely outstanding pheno I reckon you need to be culling from a stock of at least 100 beans, even more, this is where it can get costly, but relatively speaking its not much cost compared to the rewards offered.
Ive always been an advocate of sensi strains as skunk#1, Northern lights and Black Domina were my only strains for ten years until I discovered Overgrow a few years back.
I grew The ED coz well I think Ed deserves some recognition from me as Ed Rosenthal was the name I used for the Electricity Company bill when I grew commercially. (I am in Australia so it wouldnt actually have got the real Ed in any trouble, I just thrive on subliminals)
As I take a whiff of this stuff in its cured state, it takes me back to the 80's as alot of the primo outdoor stuff here at that time was a real fruity Mango.
As far as highs go, yeh it does a good job of getting you high, , seems to not have too much of a ceiling and can send me back to bed if I wake and bake.
Tastes good too, although as mentioned in my earlier post, not as tasty as It was eluding to be during flower, although during flower it was definitely the most intense fruity smell ive ever grown, My mate commented that it was the best smelling plant hes ever smelt, and hes no lightweight when it comes to growng.
I was going to keep one, and revegged a plant but tossed it for the AK run. I know where to get more ERSB if I want some, and next time will order more beans to get more phenotypes, Im sure there will be one pheno there that tastes as well as it smells.
ERSB is definitely a Great all round strain and very easy to grow and clone, I never use as much as reccomended in nutes, strongest i go is 1.8-2.2 EC at peak flower using only canna A&B and cannazym and pk13/14. I dont RO water, my tap water is only 70ppm.
I maybe being a bit harsh on the old Ed taste wise, I mean dont get me wrong, the taste is nicer than most and you get nice and and high, but Ive had two different types of blueberry and although they werent big yielders at all, the taste from them was absolutely sensational, never had anything like it, One type tasted of the commercial artificial ultra sweet blueberry and the other type tasted like real bluberries as in I could even taste the skin of the blueberry, and both were clubbing stones.
But I suppose the old 'bean cost' arguement is that there are always so many phenos with any strain and there are little to no actual true breeders however some companies do better than others with consistency of phenotype. but even though a pheno can look like its brother, is it going to taste the same? is it going to knock you flying or make you paranoid?
You're also making that compromise in a ten bean pack of flavour vs yield etc, although most of the time with quality breeders you are happy with a one or two from that pack but often left wishing for a combination of the phenotypes youre left with. With 100 beans you could cover most of what you want out of that particular strain ie, One Pheno that Yields well, Tastes fantastic, Not stretchy, the list goes on, you get the picture.......
To get a truely outstanding pheno I reckon you need to be culling from a stock of at least 100 beans, even more, this is where it can get costly, but relatively speaking its not much cost compared to the rewards offered.
Ive always been an advocate of sensi strains as skunk#1, Northern lights and Black Domina were my only strains for ten years until I discovered Overgrow a few years back.
I grew The ED coz well I think Ed deserves some recognition from me as Ed Rosenthal was the name I used for the Electricity Company bill when I grew commercially. (I am in Australia so it wouldnt actually have got the real Ed in any trouble, I just thrive on subliminals)
As I take a whiff of this stuff in its cured state, it takes me back to the 80's as alot of the primo outdoor stuff here at that time was a real fruity Mango.
As far as highs go, yeh it does a good job of getting you high, , seems to not have too much of a ceiling and can send me back to bed if I wake and bake.
Tastes good too, although as mentioned in my earlier post, not as tasty as It was eluding to be during flower, although during flower it was definitely the most intense fruity smell ive ever grown, My mate commented that it was the best smelling plant hes ever smelt, and hes no lightweight when it comes to growng.
I was going to keep one, and revegged a plant but tossed it for the AK run. I know where to get more ERSB if I want some, and next time will order more beans to get more phenotypes, Im sure there will be one pheno there that tastes as well as it smells.
ERSB is definitely a Great all round strain and very easy to grow and clone, I never use as much as reccomended in nutes, strongest i go is 1.8-2.2 EC at peak flower using only canna A&B and cannazym and pk13/14. I dont RO water, my tap water is only 70ppm.
I maybe being a bit harsh on the old Ed taste wise, I mean dont get me wrong, the taste is nicer than most and you get nice and and high, but Ive had two different types of blueberry and although they werent big yielders at all, the taste from them was absolutely sensational, never had anything like it, One type tasted of the commercial artificial ultra sweet blueberry and the other type tasted like real bluberries as in I could even taste the skin of the blueberry, and both were clubbing stones.
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I wouldn't mind a blueberry that tasted like either of those you described Joe. Closest thing I've come to it was Bubbleberry I grew about 12-15 years ago...
I'm not even certain that would qualify as a true "blueberry" taste either. It was dank, but it had other fruity overtones. Ed does taste fruity, but not quite like blueberries....definitely closer to that "mango" spectrum. It's funny how some people interpret odor. I brought a sack of Ed over to a friend, and he insisted that it smelled like "cat piss"....and then he qualified by saying "cat piss in a GOOD way...."...LOL.
I know that if in fact I do smell something, it's gotta be reaking...when I was 17 years old, I got into a brutal fight....got my nose all smashed up. Ever since then, I've had an intermittent sense of smell. I can breathe fine, and my nose looks like nothing ever happened to it...but as my wife will tell you I sometimes can't smell a damn thing. It doesn't help that I smoke rather constantly which can dull your olfactory senses...
Nonetheless, my point is if I smell something it's gotta be like 100-400% stronger for someone else without a diminished sense of smell...
That's probably why I never caught the 'cat piss' odor.....it's probably a really high note in the spectrum of odor...and it's consequently why other individuals have cited that Ed smells like other fruits...
My personal take on it while it was growing was the overwhelming smell of "Razzles" candy. Not sure if you get that stuff out in Australia....but it's dead on. I could lightly brush the leaves which were getting all sticky with resin....and pull a whiff off my finger...it was addictive the odor was so pleasant....at that time I decided she'd be a keeper if she were potent and a good yielder. Both of which came to be true. As a matter of fact, the most recent Ed I pulled was the highest yield per plant I've seen so far with this strain: 38.6 grams. When I expect to pull an ounce, and I'm almost three 1/8ths over that....that's awesome!
Plus I've got TONS of popcorn nugs I never bothered to weigh....I just stripped them off the stems and left them out for coffeetable smoke. Grind it up in the pollen catcher....get that resin piling up.
Thanks for your insights Joe. It's good to see Ed has fans abound.
I'm not even certain that would qualify as a true "blueberry" taste either. It was dank, but it had other fruity overtones. Ed does taste fruity, but not quite like blueberries....definitely closer to that "mango" spectrum. It's funny how some people interpret odor. I brought a sack of Ed over to a friend, and he insisted that it smelled like "cat piss"....and then he qualified by saying "cat piss in a GOOD way...."...LOL.
I know that if in fact I do smell something, it's gotta be reaking...when I was 17 years old, I got into a brutal fight....got my nose all smashed up. Ever since then, I've had an intermittent sense of smell. I can breathe fine, and my nose looks like nothing ever happened to it...but as my wife will tell you I sometimes can't smell a damn thing. It doesn't help that I smoke rather constantly which can dull your olfactory senses...
Nonetheless, my point is if I smell something it's gotta be like 100-400% stronger for someone else without a diminished sense of smell...
That's probably why I never caught the 'cat piss' odor.....it's probably a really high note in the spectrum of odor...and it's consequently why other individuals have cited that Ed smells like other fruits...
My personal take on it while it was growing was the overwhelming smell of "Razzles" candy. Not sure if you get that stuff out in Australia....but it's dead on. I could lightly brush the leaves which were getting all sticky with resin....and pull a whiff off my finger...it was addictive the odor was so pleasant....at that time I decided she'd be a keeper if she were potent and a good yielder. Both of which came to be true. As a matter of fact, the most recent Ed I pulled was the highest yield per plant I've seen so far with this strain: 38.6 grams. When I expect to pull an ounce, and I'm almost three 1/8ths over that....that's awesome!
Plus I've got TONS of popcorn nugs I never bothered to weigh....I just stripped them off the stems and left them out for coffeetable smoke. Grind it up in the pollen catcher....get that resin piling up.
Thanks for your insights Joe. It's good to see Ed has fans abound.
Joe Hawkins
Active member
Haha, Your mate is spot on Access, and even though my nose has been pulped a few times, I know what hes saying, not until you mentioned it did it occcur to me , but yeh it seems the nice mango pineapple transforms to a cat pissy sorta reek in the background, its definitley there, I can smell it, and actually thats ts downfall, thats where it seems to lose its Joi de vive, maybe that could be a temp thing as these were grown and dried in winter, although there was no high humidity, just cold weather as for the pop corn, even thats im pressive stuff, got 3 ounces of it here and its as good as th top buds for sure.
Yield was fat as, like i said b4 just over a pound of top quality under 1 600watter and 3 ounces of popcorn and that was two different phenos, if I worked with the nuggety one alone I reckon 20 ozs of top shelf would be acheivable easy
Im sure Razzles Candy must smell a a lot like Australian Fruit tingles which are a sherberty kind of fruit lollie very popular amongst tokers here, but like I said mentioned before, there are layers to the smells of this plant, as I break up this bud Im smelling Musk Sticks and vanilla with a hint of pineapple, I mean even just to grow this for those smells alone is worth giving the Ed a try. To reiterate a point, buy 100 beans and the odds of finding the Holy grail, ie actually tasting like the smell with some yield factor are significantly narrowed.
Ive gotta give this AK47 a run though, Ive never done AK b4 I owe it to myself lol, next run will be white Russian
Yield was fat as, like i said b4 just over a pound of top quality under 1 600watter and 3 ounces of popcorn and that was two different phenos, if I worked with the nuggety one alone I reckon 20 ozs of top shelf would be acheivable easy
Im sure Razzles Candy must smell a a lot like Australian Fruit tingles which are a sherberty kind of fruit lollie very popular amongst tokers here, but like I said mentioned before, there are layers to the smells of this plant, as I break up this bud Im smelling Musk Sticks and vanilla with a hint of pineapple, I mean even just to grow this for those smells alone is worth giving the Ed a try. To reiterate a point, buy 100 beans and the odds of finding the Holy grail, ie actually tasting like the smell with some yield factor are significantly narrowed.
Ive gotta give this AK47 a run though, Ive never done AK b4 I owe it to myself lol, next run will be white Russian
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Nice seeing this Ed thread still lives on.....I was not really a big fan of it although smell was nice, easy growing and nice yields....its simply just was not up there where I would have expected Ed's flower would be......thats my opinion.
I dont really care to involve cost of beans if they deliver what they promise. whether I pay usd 50 og 250 is irellevant when I spend way more in electricity, time and ferts,boosters etc. Personally I dident find that the strain to be finished from the creator, not the way serious seeds and others deliver consistent products for less money.
I have grown a lot of sensiseeds over the years but I wont do it any more. Finished.
I did however grow a nice batch of SSAK47 clones just after ERSB and they delivered all the way.
So in a way Joe we have similar taste as to some of the herb. I have some nice purple going for the time being....
I dont really care to involve cost of beans if they deliver what they promise. whether I pay usd 50 og 250 is irellevant when I spend way more in electricity, time and ferts,boosters etc. Personally I dident find that the strain to be finished from the creator, not the way serious seeds and others deliver consistent products for less money.
I have grown a lot of sensiseeds over the years but I wont do it any more. Finished.
I did however grow a nice batch of SSAK47 clones just after ERSB and they delivered all the way.
So in a way Joe we have similar taste as to some of the herb. I have some nice purple going for the time being....
Dry shots of recent ERSB harvest
Dry shots of recent ERSB harvest
Dry shots of recent ERSB harvest
Haven't seen some of you guys over at the new thread....so I thought I'd post some new dry pictures of Ed here...
Recent harvest of 1 plant yielded 38.6 grams. Not too shabby under a 250W HPS shared with 7 other plants...
This solidly locks ERSB in as a keeper for me (as if there were some question about that...LOL).
Recent harvest of 1 plant yielded 38.6 grams. Not too shabby under a 250W HPS shared with 7 other plants...
This solidly locks ERSB in as a keeper for me (as if there were some question about that...LOL).
Joe Hawkins
Active member
Sorry for the shithouse pics, but I dropped my digicam in the toilet one day taking pics of the actual parent original mother and it hasnt been the same since.
Couple that with my complete lack of camera skills
Heres some of my last ED crop
Couple that with my complete lack of camera skills
Heres some of my last ED crop
That's a nice haul bro!!! Your camera skills are fine....a little overhead or background lighting and you've got magazine shots!!
As much as I love my Ed, I wish I had the opportunity to taste other people's versions of it. Yours looks dense and meaty. K+ bro!
As much as I love my Ed, I wish I had the opportunity to taste other people's versions of it. Yours looks dense and meaty. K+ bro!
Joe Hawkins
Active member
Hey man that bag is 1/4 of what I hauled! 8 ounces in that sucker there, Funnily enough 5 minutes after i took that snap, somebody came around and bought it from me.
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Then that's an extremely impressive haul! The closeups you posted are definitely looking like Ed....such a high concentration of the orange hairs is a dead giveaway. Yours are extremely resiny also....looks like a nice cure too.
What was the consensus of the people that bought it? How did they like the smoke, high, etc.?
What was the consensus of the people that bought it? How did they like the smoke, high, etc.?
Joe Hawkins
Active member
Yeh, those Pistils on the ED are its signature thing, they were so wooly in flower, the other pheno wasnt as wooly but very distinct pistils nonetheless.
To tell you the truth the guy that buys from me has his own clientele, and although I know some of them dont actually associate with them for security reasons.
However I do have one close friend who is also a grower and as mentioned before we couldnt beleive the smell on this thing during flower is was so fruity, unfortunately that didnt carry throught to the cured bud stage as well as expected. Its been about 2 months the buds in those shots have cured for and the flavour has developed somewhat to a mango with vanilla musk overtones.
Dont get me wrong, the taste and high are decent, and yield was way up there even with the less nuggetty one like anything its a matter of finding that Diamond in the rough for a keeper.
The high is a blend of Sativa and Indica, I find myself doing things on it then stopping and daydreaming for ages until I remember wtf it was I was doing.
Ive had better tasting and better couchlock stones though.
Im a couchlock kinda toker! So AK47 my next few runs then onto finding a white russian keeper
To tell you the truth the guy that buys from me has his own clientele, and although I know some of them dont actually associate with them for security reasons.
However I do have one close friend who is also a grower and as mentioned before we couldnt beleive the smell on this thing during flower is was so fruity, unfortunately that didnt carry throught to the cured bud stage as well as expected. Its been about 2 months the buds in those shots have cured for and the flavour has developed somewhat to a mango with vanilla musk overtones.
Dont get me wrong, the taste and high are decent, and yield was way up there even with the less nuggetty one like anything its a matter of finding that Diamond in the rough for a keeper.
The high is a blend of Sativa and Indica, I find myself doing things on it then stopping and daydreaming for ages until I remember wtf it was I was doing.
Ive had better tasting and better couchlock stones though.
Im a couchlock kinda toker! So AK47 my next few runs then onto finding a white russian keeper
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707DankSmoker
Member
what is ed supposed to taste/ smell like?
I hope I had addressed that earlier in this thread. I would encourage you to read back and check. However, briefly: Ed Rosenthal smells like a wide array of fruits during the flowering cycle. Sometimes bluberry, other times like cantaloupe or mango.....
There are really no defnitive hints of citrus however. The taste does in fact come through as fruity (if it's cured well), and has hints of powdered ginger. Is it the BEST tasting strain I've ever had? No, absolutely not. There are much more flavorfull varieties....however this is defnitely NO SLACKER in the taste or smell dept.
There are really no defnitive hints of citrus however. The taste does in fact come through as fruity (if it's cured well), and has hints of powdered ginger. Is it the BEST tasting strain I've ever had? No, absolutely not. There are much more flavorfull varieties....however this is defnitely NO SLACKER in the taste or smell dept.
whitebox
Active member
Hi Accessndx,
i have to say, (without relation with the flash anim below your posts...LoL) that these pics makes my mouth watering every time ( i mean E.R.S.B's nugs pix
).if the beans were not as expensive as they are , i would buy a pack at the minute !!!
anyway, great strain and great show.
thanx to share all your knowledgements about MJ and this particular strain, the E.R. Super Bud is.
Grow nice
..WB.
Nik Dynosaur
Active member
This is wonderful, those budshots are glorious. This is the first real grow report ive seen for this variety. Wonderful job, my friend.
Glad you recent visitors like the ERSB. It's a great variety, very hearty. I've been neglecting updates because I thought I had explored it rather thoroughly....but I've got a recent haul, and what looks to be like an almost picture perfect ERSB about halfway through flowering now. I should take a few shots and update the thread. I'd also encourage you to check out my "ALL ACCESS PASS" thread....which definitely has updates on not only ERSB, but some other fantastic strains: OPIUM, ICE CREAM, LONG ISLAND OLD SCHOOL, LAVENDER, BIG BUD, ETC. You can find that thread by just clicking on the animated .gif in my signature (HE-MAN currently...who knows what it may be a few weeks or months from now).
