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You’re not missing anything. Unless you’re into fruity sours.
The AJ is fruity ?
Yes AJ does have some type of fruity smell when growing but loses it. Final buds have no fruity smell or taste to me.
CaptainDankness
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That's why it's good to buy from real breeders. Mr. Nice and Sensi have the same old school strains. Not everyone is breeding the same shit, just a few years ago Durban Poison made a bit of a comeback. Also heard of a few breeders in California selling F4's at least the one guy sounded pretty good but $150-300 for a pack is a little steep for me.
Definitely a bit too many clone onlys, which are probably just the same old Dutch genetics. I know the fem freebie of Sour Diesel I had was a lot like a Super Skunk, I'd imagine the cut is better but probably not really better than the best Skunk hybrid I've grown. Hard saying without trying the original cut though. I would probably chuck some pollen on her either way.
Loved PUS ecsd x 4D but was a tester so it would have been wrong to keep a male.
The Riri bx is dif then the PUS was, it has a much stronger sour fruit terp. My son said #5 is like tart grapes and #6 is like a mix of blueberry/lavender/grapefruit.
The PUS was a mix of chem onion/garlic with grapefruit.
I do have a Riri F13 x Headbanger that has a diesel/skunk funk with a powder lemonade overtone.
This 1.. I have a male of this cross as well. Going to dust a branch or to of ECSD with each of them.
Thanks Ag
wait, what?!?!
aceseeds is very transparent with what they do, and you should hang out in their subforum because you have VERY MUCH got the wrong idea about them.
they admit that the kali-china has kali mist in it, and it has been a YEARS LONG breeding project.
the nl5xhazeA is NOT in malawi, they crossed their killer malawi WITH the a5 to make their killer a5 haze
i doubt very many breeders have such a strong, dedicated fan-base of REAL cannabis connoisseurs, growing for THEMSELVES & their friends, not to make money.
why would you choose ace of all breeders to attack? what nonsense
especially when you have confused the facts.
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IncenseRosemary
wait, what?!?!
aceseeds is very transparent with what they do, and you should hang out in their subforum because you have VERY MUCH got the wrong idea about them.
they admit that the kali-china has kali mist in it, and it has been a YEARS LONG breeding project.
the nl5xhazeA is NOT in malawi, they crossed their killer malawi WITH the a5 to make their killer a5 haze
i doubt very many breeders have such a strong, dedicated fan-base of REAL cannabis connoisseurs, growing for THEMSELVES & their friends, not to make money.
why would you choose ace of all breeders to attack? what nonsense
I is just example of good marketing then good breeding.
What they have ??
Malawi clone which they dont know what is it in genetics of it. And few hazes which also they have seeds from some guy who keept them.
They everithing cross to Malawi and Hazes. They talking about Kali china it must be good cuz it is Kali mist hybrid. Do you know any famous seed lines from them who is spread in Coffe shops or Dispaneryies ??? Today we have onlline breeding and real breeding champions. Today breeding is dead and we are bottlenecking cananbis. How many strains whihc have them Sfv OG, riri SD or Core cut ssh have in them then again are crosed with sfv. Do you know any strain that make real hype. I dont know how old are you but i know when people actualy breed new strains with different terpens today all breeders are breeding same old sensi seeds mostly stock. If same and neville have technology and leglity like today they bree musch more and better then todays polen chukers. For me femmed proven cut x another proven cut is not breeding its tool for making hype to get money. if Old neville clone come to ace x malawi who also come to Ace just f1 with no selection its not breeding its pollen chuking and just they need 30% thc hype and pople will buy. Do you know any strain that is something new or better then old school strains ??? I will give you few old school cuts Josh real OG ,Old Sour Diesel, old real Amnesia and old scholl incensy white widow i havent smoked anything better since them till now u know better haze then old NL5haze ??? before was breeding today it is just name businees people smoking same stuff under differnet name and they dont know. Best breding today is doing BX2 with old cuts. I know and grow many but i also know what is business and marketing very well.
you would see a bunch of users, growers, smokers that think along the same lines as you if you checked out the ace subforum.
they have a shit-ton of sativas and sativa hybrids that are NOT bottleneck'd dutch genes, landraces from all over the world...
golden tiger, zamaldelica are both very popular and are offered here in the u.s. in some dispensaries (even branded cartridges).
you talk about ace as though you are an expert, but what it looks like is you are using them as a scapegoat without having done any research.
anyway, this thread is derailed enough. if i am not getting through, so be it... good day.
they have a shit-ton of sativas and sativa hybrids that are NOT bottleneck'd dutch genes, landraces from all over the world...
golden tiger, zamaldelica are both very popular and are offered here in the u.s. in some dispensaries (even branded cartridges).
you talk about ace as though you are an expert, but what it looks like is you are using them as a scapegoat without having done any research.
anyway, this thread is derailed enough. if i am not getting through, so be it... good day.
Hi bro, I agree with Santero, Maha and you for the most part and needed to make a general reply on the fake DHK/V3 topic.
I know the fake DHK was sent in Europe in 2007 to French grower/ clones afficionado "Flying", he recepted her along with Katsu Bubba, Steve's Sweet Skunk, DPD etc from oversea and started to share the cut in Europe under the ECSD DHK tag, thinking at the time that it was the real ECSD... All his other clones were legits so he wrote it up as it came to him. The mislabelling of this clone originaly happened in US before 2007.
This Fake DHK was then relabelled V3 by someone in France just a few years back, around 2012 I think when JGL sourced the real ECSD from Chaco and this fake DHK cut started to create confusion. Which grower did the rename and why idk.
I've discussed this topic with Maha some months ago and told him my personal theory on that fake DHK/V3: to me it have way more chance to come from the first IBL release like Riri than from the V3. In 2004 the V3 was released in really limited quantity and so much more people were able to grab Sour D IBL via the 2006 drop instead.
Musta I also agree with what you said about the structure and calyxes formation closer to Riri. As far as structure Karma's 06' SD IBL cut looks also really similar, another great exemple are 06' Sour D IBL pics from JLP's gallery here.
The fake DHK is somewhat closer to ECSD Chaco but imo ONLY for the fuely side. I also detect the floral Linalool part and sourness reminding me Riri, but it's just way more subtle and diluted behind the fuel, so I've finally came to the conclusion that it's just another 06' SD IBL pheno leaning a bit more on the fuel side than floral, like Santero wrote it up.
I've dropped the DHK/V3 tag last year and put instead SD IBL or I just call it Sour D...
Here's my 06 IBL ..ugh the 1 that got away
Your a brave soul to relive that , fuck that makes me feel bad.I can only imagine how you feel.
I've got two AJ's in flower right now. One midway, the other near the end. There is zero fruit to the AJ. It smells like burnt rubber. Not overly fragrant, average strength I suppose. When smelling cured flowers, I do however get a touch of fruit on the exhale after a long cure. It's probably the most interesting thing about this plant.
I think I'm letting the AJ go sooner than later. Given all the hype around ECSD, the AJ cut is average at best in a veteran's garden.
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IncenseRosemary
Me to, I have my own cut which is good represent of famous SD cultivars but Sour Diesel aint that special weed for me. It is classic Skunk high. Hard hitting stoney uplifting stupid high at the day with munchies and fine colours,at night it is uplifting expirience,but if you lay in bad you will sleep in few minutes not like mind trips on hazes when you close your eyes in dark.
Any better SSH and Jack hybrid beat Sour D at 77-84 days culitvars. It is close strong skunk high but SSH and Jack have that positive inner peace with universe iluminated mind that hazes are known for.
very diesel looking one. I see cross from PUS is more chemdog. RIRI bx is more fruity.
good info. well that cut, fake dhk. I smoked buds from outdoors - heavy fuel. from greenhouse light dep. both summer and autumn grown - heavy sour fuel gassy diesel. grown under led lights, very fuely. grown under gavita 600w in coco. very lemony sour, much less fuely.. so it depends on environment. but I have never detected floral. and I crossed it with haze and ogk, no floral, it should be there in crosses at least?
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IncenseRosemary
Not to name some big names from canna world who confirmed it is close to real cut of ESCD also i smoked in Spain,USA and West EU few cuts so I can confirm it is good cut and represent. I choose from almost 40 plants. So i know it is good. If you want i will give it to you for free and try it by your self. What somebody do when is high is most importent, if i go through the city doing things or go on BBQ with friends SD or pure hazes(not tripy ones) fits the best. But I use cannanbis for spiritual improvement for my mind and body and i want strong high which last for hours for doing streching after workouts and day i dont smoke all day any more i smoke only by 15:00+ hour and i fit Haze hybrids line NL5haze x skunk the best for that puropse also my Chemd x OG sfv is good but after i have feeling of couchlook . For me SSH beats any sour D i tried at 77-84 days both well grown. But i give my 2.5 month cured SD to guy who dont smoke often and he and his friend where lafing like they are on mushrooms. But for me SD is just nice or the best tasting skunk varietal. Also SD was never popular to much for its high like real highs from SSH,Amnesia,G13haze,NL haze or real stoners like AK47,Herijuana,White Rhino,its is more of taste and smell. Also i have found while smoking Diesels and Chems for days i get nervous of them.
It’s funny cause I use SD precisely for physical activities including racquet sports, soccer and yoga. Creativity is heightened too. It’s not fair to call it a generic skunk like high now is it? It is Hawaiian influenced fosho and the first 48 minutes are fabulous, zero crash, bountiful yields, amazing terps and taste.
Multi hour inner journeys require mushrooms, acid or sass combined with hazes
Multi hour inner journeys require mushrooms, acid or sass combined with hazes
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IncenseRosemary
I dont smoke before activities,i smoke after activities. And after activities and job. I want something stronger OG fits me great. If i dont go at sports i come home erlier and then i find Haze hybrid the best few hours up then eating and go to sleep. I stop smoking all day for few years. Before i like Sour from morning to smoke. I dont say Sour is bad but it is not that special like some good Haze hybrid for me . I like more oriental smells spicey,sage,rosemary,incense so maybe thats it every Sour cut dominant is Super Skunk smell and that lavander,citrus,grapefruit are when you smell close to it. Sour is good but i have better strains for my life timing right now. Sour is good strain but is not so medicinal i can be dizzy on it regulary so thats why it is good for sports and gaming you can have adrenalin high levels while high on that strain but stress is low.
Also Sour when burn have that pungent woody sour hashy minty lemony skunky smell close to OG but more skunk less kushy then OGK. While haze hybrids have that incensy fruty lemony peppery musky scent which relax me and makes me carfree and happy. Sour Diesel is more like stress blocker. While SSH have that feeling which makes stress gone. In Sour i can feel stress but not strong like sober. On SSH i see cause of that stress. If i think that Sour is bad i will throw my mum away but it goes in winter monts regulary at least 1 run. For she to be perfect she like low temps 20'22 C with no temp swings and low humidity around 40'35 in flower.
