ECSD Monstah!

[Crazy Composer]

Any maple syrup will do?

Well, real maple syrup is what I use because it's a plant food right from a plant. The fake stuff is made with sugar and corn syrup, which would probably have a similar effect, but for me, I'll stick with the real stuff. Plant carbs made by plants for plants. I believe corn syrup is starch first, then there's some sort of fancy processing that turns it into a sugar.

 

[englishrick]

SweetLeaf from AdvancedNutrients is good on the flush...ive used Sweetleaf..its good stuff...im not sure what difference it made tho,,maybe a little extra yellowing in a shorter amount of time

CarboLoad fom AdvancedNutrients is interesting too...........

how do AdvancedNute`s compare to a real plant extract CC??

 

[Crazy Composer]

All I know about AN is that I refuse to pay that much for nutrients.

 

[Burt]

Dear CC-first of mad props there bro-inspiring for sure
I love my SD IBL and will cherish my cut forever but I must ask-does the ECSD clone have a longer duration of buzz compared to the IBL-i love the buzz but dont like the duration-around 47 minutes or so before i need more-i know where the ecsd clone is kept and may make the drive depending on your answer
thanks for sharing your thoughts

 

[englishrick]

in your artical of OCT "Royal Flush" you sounded like Sweet Leaf was a good idea for flush in hydro, out of the hydro options what would you pick??

soil growers have been using molassas for ages,but its pretty new as part of a standard feeding program in hydro....i think its a good idea for optimum taste in "Aqua Systems"?

after "Royal Flush"....i decided , if Advanced Nutrients can offer a higher amount of available Carb`s it should speed up the metabolism and everyone says it improves taste..so im about to buy the full Avanced Nutes range....a tank of the full Canna Aqua program will be next to it...in a tent like this




last time i used AN addatives ,i used Canna Aqua floras as a bace nute,,then CarboLoad,,,i also added BudBlood, BigBud and Overdrive in there apropreate weeks...then Sweetleaf last,,,,,the program had too many differences for me to understand the benifits of 1 addative ....

 

[eyes]

looks nice as always.good job.

 

[Crazy Composer]

Dear CC-first of mad props there bro-inspiring for sure
I love my SD IBL and will cherish my cut forever but I must ask-does the ECSD clone have a longer duration of buzz compared to the IBL-i love the buzz but dont like the duration-around 47 minutes or so before i need more-i know where the ecsd clone is kept and may make the drive depending on your answer
thanks for sharing your thoughts

Well, I hear this about ECSD, too, so it might come down to personal effects. I don't notice the short-lived high of ECSD myself, probably because I let mine flower for at least 70 days, and often 77+ days before harvesting.

What I've noticed is this... When you get really, really high, ANY lessening of the high feels like the high is going away. So, with strong pot you'll get very, very high, and then it might back down to just very high. When it reduces, you feel like the high has gone, when really your head was so used to the extreme of the initial high that you don't want that feeling to stop so you want to smoke more to get back to that high again. With excellent herb you need to take into account that the high won't stay the same for long, it changes as it sits in your blood stream. Same with all herb. But with the highs that take you REALLY high, any change in the high is going to leave you wanting more. I think this is what people are experiencing when it comes to Sour Diesel.

70-77 days is also a good idea with the Diesels, for both taste and high purposes.

in your artical of OCT "Royal Flush" you sounded like Sweet Leaf was a good idea for flush in hydro, out of the hydro options what would you pick??

soil growers have been using molassas for ages,but its pretty new as part of a standard feeding program in hydro....i think its a good idea for optimum taste in "Aqua Systems"?

after "Royal Flush"....i decided , if Advanced Nutrients can offer a higher amount of available Carb`s it should speed up the metabolism and everyone says it improves taste..so im about to buy the full Avanced Nutes range....a tank of the full Canna Aqua program will be next to it...in a tent like this




last time i used AN addatives ,i used Canna Aqua floras as a bace nute,,then CarboLoad,,,i also added BudBlood, BigBud and Overdrive in there apropreate weeks...then Sweetleaf last,,,,,the program had too many differences for me to understand the benifits of 1 addative ....

Well, hydro isn't my strong suit, Rick, so I stay away from commenting on it too much. My initial feeling is that carbs are organic and therefore might cause issues in some hydro systems. But if you could give them a dose of carbs without clotting your system up, then I don't see why it wouldn't help in the same way it helps in potted mediums.

As for Sweet Leaf... the magazine added that picture to the article, not me. I don't support any one carb product line. I don't like carb products with extra crap added to them because I only use carbs right before the flush... and this is not the time to be adding any extra minerals.

As for the taste factor... keep in mind that the sweetness of the molasses does not directly effect the taste of the bud... it's the carbs that help the plant do what it wants to do in the first place... create terpenes, resins, and continue to ripen. It's the terpenes, resins and ripeness that make the herb taste better, not the sweetness of the molasses. The molasses provides a boost of energy during the flush, and with this boost of energy, the plant can eat up some of the excess nutrients still resident in the plant's flesh. So the smoke can taste beeter for this reason, too... cleaner plant material burns better.

Rick, you describe how, with so many parts to the official Advanced Nutrients regime, it was hard to pin-point what one additive did to the plants. This is one of the most important, earliest lessons I learned about dialing in gardens... Use a simple base nutrient for basic plant needs... that way... if you use an additive, you KNOW what difference it made. If something goes wrong all of a sudden, you know it was the additive. If things get better, you know it was the additive.

 

[subrob]

CC- have you personally used the ecsd in any crosses? im doin some projects right now, and while i am staying away from feminized pollen right now, my bro has some reversed dabney blueberry that im gonna spank the ecsd with. just curious how she shows thru when crossed from your experience.....sub

EDIT: rick gotta love the secret jardin tents dont ya? best tent ive come across

 

[englishrick]

thanks Subrob.....id say its "the best a man can get"...it has 2 x 1square meter NFT trays inside....the Advanced nutes will be run on 1 NFT tray, next time round,

ive used the full Canna Aqua program for years,,,its almost easy to prejudge the results,,,its grate,,but i think they might be missing something and Carbs on the end flush might be it

this time im following both full programs ,insted of mix and matching the two...il compare CannaAqua to AN as a "full program" as sujested by the makers

i love the AquaSystems....an i realy want to try this Carb stuff propperly

 

[Crazy Composer]

CC- have you personally used the ecsd in any crosses? im doin some projects right now, and while i am staying away from feminized pollen right now, my bro has some reversed dabney blueberry that im gonna spank the ecsd with. just curious how she shows thru when crossed from your experience.....sub

EDIT: rick gotta love the secret jardin tents dont ya? best tent ive come across

I don't do many crosses myself, but I have seen PLENTY of ECSD crosses. ECSD is very dominant in most crosses. Mothers often seem to be more dominant in a cross.

 

[GET MO]

How long was the flower time? Nice lookin plants!

 

[Hammerhead]

CC
I was always under the impression that 100% organics did not need a flush?????? Is this not the case Ive done both seems to be the same or im just to old to notice lol

 

[subrob]

:QUOTE=Crazy Composer;2049595]Well, I hear this about ECSD, too, so it might come down to personal effects. I don't notice the short-lived high of ECSD myself, probably because I let mine flower for at least 70 days, and often 77+ days before harvesting.

What I've noticed is this... When you get really, really high, ANY lessening of the high feels like the high is going away. So, with strong pot you'll get very, very high, and then it might back down to just very high. When it reduces, you feel like the high has gone, when really your head was so used to the extreme of the initial high that you don't want that feeling to stop so you want to smoke more to get back to that high again. With excellent herb you need to take into account that the high won't stay the same for long, it changes as it sits in your blood stream. Same with all herb. But with the highs that take you REALLY high, any change in the high is going to leave you wanting more. I think this is what people are experiencing when it comes to Sour Diesel.

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--my two cents: when i first started smoking ecsd, it did feel different then what i was used to smoking. while i loved the aroma and taste, at the end of the night i would hit something else for a nightcap. that went on for about a week. then it was just ecsd and nothing else for a couple weeks. then, as my ecsd stash was running out, it became smoke other stuff and top it off with ecsd! and then, of course, it became-holy shit, i shoulda grown more ecsd!
---i feel that as i became accustomed to the high, i realized it was very potent, and a quality high that i dont find with many other strains. its not less, its just different. and yes, i have to wait another 45 days for my next harvest

 

[Hammerhead]

With anything you will build a tolerance to it. I smoke small amounts of diff strains to prevent that. It works try it .

 

[subrob]

nothing beats variety thats for sure! i usually have plenty in my stash, its just that i fell in love with ecsd! matter of fact, what i was completely ignoring while smoking her was:GDP, J1, madness, g13widow and one or two others. these are all strains that initially i considered stronger, and they have a variety of highs. i have been smoking them for awhile now, but i just love the specific high i get from ecsd ya know? man i hope this post makes sense! i hit some chem d and ive been typing for bout 10 minutes. haha

 

[Lune TNS]

Now that's a nice ECSD, well done sir! I'm smoking the last of mine right now, have more coming down in about a month though, so it's all good...

I love how the ECSD goes yellow at the end so easily...

Have smoked a good amount of ecsd at this point, and I gotta say that it's very much worth letting it go 75 (as opposed to 65-70) days if it's for the head... I noticed that the later it goes the heavier and more diesely the stink is... also a bit stronger.... and the bubble this stuff makes... soooo good.... sooooooo good...

 

[englishrick]

it sounds like ECSD is slighly less "MindBending"...i personaly love the sound of that!!.....most good weeds are too strong for me,,,,eg HAZE,,,,,,,,,,,im prone to panic atacks and paranoia.....sometimes i think my actions are a result of the weed im smoking,,,,so its possible to have a Cheesey Lazy Day,,,,a Hazy paranoia day.etc ect....thats why i loved NYCD, i could smoke loads + have a grate taste All Day but id never do anything stupid because NYCD is not too "MINDBending"...

 

[subrob]

Now that's a nice ECSD, well done sir! I'm smoking the last of mine right now, have more coming down in about a month though, so it's all good...

I love how the ECSD goes yellow at the end so easily...

Have smoked a good amount of ecsd at this point, and I gotta say that it's very much worth letting it go 75 (as opposed to 65-70) days if it's for the head... I noticed that the later it goes the heavier and more diesely the stink is... also a bit stronger.... and the bubble this stuff makes... soooo good.... sooooooo good...

---i cant wait to try some bubble! i notice with the nutes i use, i have to alter the feeding schedule so as to keep her from yellowing too early!

 

[englishrick]

id put Cal Mg in to stop it yellowing too early,,,,

any good?

 

[Crazy Composer]

I LOVE ECSD hash. I grew some outdoors two years ago and made some hash with the plant. Pure Sour Diesel ecstasy.

getmo I don't remember how long this one went. I usually let them go 65-75 days though.

Hammerhead That really depends on one or two (thousand) variables. I find that plants grown in the 100% ture organic way (using the soil to feed the plants) CAN yield the best tasting pot. However, the gardener has to eiter get pucky or really know what he's doing to get those stellar results. Keep in mind, my idea of stellar might be different from you own.

Some of the nastiest pot I've ever smoked came from 100% organic gardens, and yet the best pot I've smoked also came from 100% organic gardens. Excess nutrient build up in the buds is just as damaging to the final product in organics as it is in any other method.

I other words, you either have to know how to harvest clean pot, or get lucky and harvest clean pot without knowing how you did it. One of these methodologies is highly preferable IMO.