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E.T. evidence thread
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GenghisKush
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What if the aliens are silicon-based, rather than carbon-based (us) and all of our silicon microchips are, like, murder to them (or worse!) and so then they hate us?
WHAT IF (I ASK YOU)!?
GenghisKush
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3 groups of people told me the exact same story about what they saw. A UFO. Same exact description from all of them, except 1 was in 1972, one in 1977 and one in 1982. I never saw it, but the weirdest part is all three occasions happened in front of my parents house. I believe them.
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GenghisKush
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IDK if I'm willing to accept the pentagon as an authoritative source when it comes to statements about nature. Science is the mechanism for that, and scientific observations need to be repeatable. Until we have those sorts of verifiable facts (incl. repeatable observations) coming from the pentagon, this all strikes me as very silly, to be blunt. My open mind is well-tempered by skepticism, and extraordinary claims must be supported by extraordinary evidence. This is merely my opinion.
Ca++
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I'm not sure about the southern aliens. There joints look a bit unlikely, and seeing the way they handled it in the lab, it was surely thought of as a prop.
The big headed aliens though.. they are a very different kettle of fish.
I know we see light speed as the fastest, and certainly in nature, it is. That is the natural order. We can't be so daft as to think we know even 1% of what we may one day though. Once, we couldn't even drive faster than a horse, as a horse was the fastest, and we would break. Then it was flying. Then man in space. Then the plasma generators hotter than the sun. We can effect the order of things
The big headed aliens though.. they are a very different kettle of fish.
I know we see light speed as the fastest, and certainly in nature, it is. That is the natural order. We can't be so daft as to think we know even 1% of what we may one day though. Once, we couldn't even drive faster than a horse, as a horse was the fastest, and we would break. Then it was flying. Then man in space. Then the plasma generators hotter than the sun. We can effect the order of things
GenghisKush
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Good news and bad news.
The bad news is the Principle of Relativity (eg speed of light is the same in all inertial reference frames) has been very stringently tested, on small scales and at the largest scales observable, and has held up. Even recently (2011) when a CERN experiment reported faster-than-light neutrinos, no-one believed the result and it was a matter of months before the result was retracted because a fiber optic cable used to measure timing wasn't plugged in all the way. Seems like the only experiments that ever suggest faster-than-light results come from neutrinos, which are very difficult to measure (a neutrino can pass through a light-year of lead and have < 50% of interacting with a nucleus of an individual lead atom).
The good news is we now have a reliable estimate of what components make up the universe. We know that no more than 5% is made up of everyday stuff (water, air, dirt, etc. all made up of quarks and leptons and held together with gauge bosons). We know that 20% is made of stuff called Dark Matter, stuff that has mass but doesn't interact with light, only gravity. We know that 75% of the universe is made of stuff called Dark Energy (some energy density that acts like a negative pressure in the universe causing it to expand).
We have some reasonable guesses about what the Dark Matter might be and those guesses are being constrained by experiment but we have no idea how to come up with the biggest component, Dark Energy, based on what we already know about the universe.
So your 1% estimate isn't too far off the mark; we know that we understand < 5% of the universe.
great point! its always best to keep an open mind
no matter how much we want to believe in life from other planets we need to see hard evidence, not just some weird lights in the sky
im not putting down anyones experience and im sure we have all seen our share of weird shit, but thats all it was, some weird shit
qft: "extraordinary claims must be supported by extraordinary evidence"
@Ca++ makes a great point and we have only scratched the surface of what there is to know; the more you know the more you realise you need to learn
but you can see the progression of technology just like you can see evolution in life
man power gave way to animals, then steam; steam was replaced by fuel and so on, but its all just normal science working for us (mankind)
no matter how much we want to believe in life from other planets we need to see hard evidence, not just some weird lights in the sky
im not putting down anyones experience and im sure we have all seen our share of weird shit, but thats all it was, some weird shit
qft: "extraordinary claims must be supported by extraordinary evidence"
@Ca++ makes a great point and we have only scratched the surface of what there is to know; the more you know the more you realise you need to learn
but you can see the progression of technology just like you can see evolution in life
man power gave way to animals, then steam; steam was replaced by fuel and so on, but its all just normal science working for us (mankind)
this deserves serious consideration
you are right, its jingoistic to assume other life would be carbon based! for all we know they could be based on the other prevalent elements in the universe
you know what else is abundant? chocolate and cookies
i think our alien visitors come in peace
i have PROOF! feast you eyes on this
/wakes up tomorrow in field covered in crumbs
Ca++
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Taken from that, we have 95% of everything we expect to exist, beyond our science of the physical world. Which is good news, as what we need, likely hides in that 95% that our current science isn't helping us manage. What we are looking for, is something that's not constrained by relativity.
We have defined Mass. Twice. So why not a third time. Looking at how it's measured, Mass is really how it interacts with other things. We like to see everything in physical units, so have decided Mass is a bit like weight, but these are concepts we constrain ourselves within. It's why the idea of what it is has changed. My model of what Mass is, still fits, but offers ways of defeating it. Which makes relativity, irrelevant.
There are ways forward, but it probably won't be a physicist, bound by schooling, that looks at things in a new way. It's just as likely to be you, after your next fat one.
^^^ Your stoned dude.. 
I want want you’ve been smoking
I want want you’ve been smoking
that is one fine looking portal and i would love to see whats on the other side
unfortunately, we cant have nice things here in socal
Ca++
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You double want it ?^^^ Your stoned dude..
Well it does bring all the girls to my yard, so I would have to charge
I have worked around some of our greatest minds, and most wouldn't be able to figure this post out. Many can be found struggling to open a door. Exhibiting varying degree's of autism. People who think within the box, follow the paths laid out for them, but are just followers. We need mistakes and wack jobs, to find something new. Everything starts with a new way of thinking.
If you are a deeper thinker, then lets look at Mass again, and how it's a measure of interaction, as I suggest.
If you take a clock into a lower gravity, it speeds up. It's not gained mass, or energy, but has gained speed. This doesn't fit the theory or relatively, it fits my theory. It's mass as we see it conventionally, isn't to do with particle size, as we would like to see it, but rather it's interaction with the world around it. That is what we measure. Not it, but it's interaction.
Sometimes people die before others discover they were right. So I post-humourously accept
As a carbon based life form, I would like you all to stop smoking, and show the aliens what we do with silicone
It was only protecting its babies….
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Maternal insects – humans aren't the only species that protect their young
From slinging babies to the ground to giving birth to live young, insect parenting is seriously wild.
www.australiangeographic.com.au
right
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Not a ufo but something the government is doing. These lights floated over the 29 palms marine Corp base for like a half hour to 15 minutes. Misses Righty started filming after I ran home. Most of it was over by then. The video doesn't work., or I don't know how to load it.
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