DR90Twin 600W Blue Cheese

[Lazyeye]

Sorry for the lack of updates, been very busy.

I repotted the plants a couple of days ago. Figured I'd do one big hempy bucket for all 5 of them for the veg period. Turns out that was a bad decision, and I don't really know why.

The bucket got very heavy though, so that reason alone makes me want to get separate ones for each plant. But I can't find any suitable containers, especially since I'm restricted in height. (in Europre by the way, no 99 cents stores and what not) I guess I can just get normal pots and put some tape on the drainage holes?

Anyhow, the plants don't look very healthy. I gave them a good dose of water when they got moved, and then started to fill up the reservoar. It turned out the res could hold ALOT of water, so I stopped and decided to wait a bit. Few hours later plants were drooping. How do I best nurse them back to health?

 

[5th]

wow....11 days and they haven't grown at all. Yeah bro your plants are fuckin' hurtin'.

Put them in their own containers, and stop with this transplanting bullshit. Your not growing trees, you don't need to up-pot. Just regular pots, don't try to get fancy. Limited height is what it is, better you snap a plant in half practicing LST then killing them by drowning them like you are.

Not PH'ing your rockwool in the first place is where this all started to go downhill I'm afraid, as when you water your plants its leaching that shit out of the rockwool into the rest of your hempy. Do you have any meters to check the run off? lol...or what your feeding them for that matter? Not sure why your giving them nutes, or what your temps are...might also be a factor.

As far as nursing them back to health, don't. They don't need a baby sitter bro, they need light, some water, and to be left the hell alone to do their own thing.

Next run we'll get ya running SWC/DWC...much easier.

 

[Lazyeye]

Actually it's just one transplant, they stood in rockwools on top of some perlite. A bit too long though, I didn't have a container for them. I'll be much less limited in height once they move in to the flowering tent. No trees, but bushes!

I havn't had any runoff yet, stopped watering when I saw leaves drooping. But no way to measure it yet no. I'm not giving them any nutes, just tap water that's been sitting for a few hours to let chlorine and other crap to evaporate. Temps are ~27C, light is on 24/7.

So should I not water them for a few days? Water them mildly?

I'll try and find some pet-bottles that will fit the big rockwool cubes, or any container for that matter...

 

[Lazyeye]

I went out on a hunt for new containers today. Found a container ment to store food, I think it will do the job. Attached a pic of it. (the white one is the new one)

The measurements are 17x17x12 (WxLxH, in centimeters). Wich means it can hold a total of 3.47L (0.92 gallon). But I don't really know how high up I should put the overflow hole? The rockwool cubes are 6.5cm high, but I guess you don't need to cover them up completely with perlite/vermiculite mix?

 

[Lazyeye]

New pots!

Repotted them all today to the new food containers. I kind of like it. I didn't know how high up I wanted the drain hole, and the calculator I used for volume was wrong. The correct volume is 1.6L (0.36 gallon), so I figured using one third as a reservoar should be enough. Threw in half a liter and made my drill mark after the water level, hopefully it will be okey.

This time I put the perlite in the res first, gave it a good soak and made sure the drain worked. It didn't with a 5mm drill, so I upped it to 6mm and it worked. After that I put the perlite/vermiculite mix in to get the rockwool cube at what I think is an appropriate level to give the roots some space before the reservoar. I put the cube on it, and covered the sides with more mix. Then I watered the mix on the sides until I got runoff again, didn't water anything on the cubes themselfs.

Last time I did the opposite... I put everything in place, unwatered. Then I watered ALOT and wanted to see runoff, after like a gallon or so I figured I should stop, and after that - well you know what happened. I also watered alot directly at the base of the plants. Not the brightest of ideas it seems. So I learned from my mistake and hopefully the new way will work better. The plants are a bit battered, but surviving. I'm happy. I didn't even think I'd get the seeds to pop to be honest. As I said before, I have never ever grown anything before, this is a learning run for me.

Thanks for all the inputs! Invaluable to me - especially you 5th!

Take care

 

[5th]

Because of the size of the containers, I think you put your drainage hole in a great spot. Where you put your rockwool cube seems to be where most other people put them. (yogurt challenge and a few others I've been watching lately) I dunno if you can make some covers to help fend off the algae from forming on your rockwool?

Your just doing everything I wish I was doing right now...so I'm trying to live vicariously through you.

Keep on keepin' on bro.

 

[Lazyeye]

Weird, says last post is made by 5th but can't see it?

 

[5th]

You aren't missing much.

 

[dank420uk]

Alright Lazyeye i want to try some barneys blue cheese myself i use the same kind of light 2x 54watt bulbs think there called pll bulbs i use 2 bulbs when they are seedlings like yours but i keep it about 2 or 3inchs away from the seedlings try it out as i think your light is a bit far away in the pic all the best with the blue cheese man peace dank420uk

 

[Lazyeye]

Now the post showed, very weird! You wish you're making a fool of yourself online?

dank Yeah it's definitley too high up. Was planning to get another chain tomorrow, I can't keep em as close as you do I think. I don't have a fan yet, will buy one when the pay check drops in.

 

[dank420uk]

i never used a fan on mine m8 i have just potted mine up so i will use a fan now because i am using 4 bulbs like yours i will put up a pic later in my gallery so you can see..what size mine are

 

[Lazyeye]

I lowered the lights, after a few days I noticed brown spots on the leafs, along with more yellowing leafs. Are the plants being burned? Or is it possible that this has to do with my unknown PH value? (PH tester is my next purchase... I swear, if my car breaks down again I'll throw it away...)

Will throw up a pic later today.

 

[willyweed]

prob is the ph ,but try a small fan just to keep the air moving around the babies good luck

 

[hibachi212]

I want to run the almost the exact setup with some slight changes. DR120 and a sputnik with 400W. I am curious about the height and temps. I will be following your grow. Whats your feeling about the Sputnik? I have only used AAW and i am curious what u think.

Nice grow

 

[Lazyeye]

Things aren't going very well. The plants don't look too good, can this really be because of wrong PH value? If so I totally fucking underestimated the PH value. Had seen grows where people just used tapwater and it went very well, guess they had a better natural PH than I do...

I think the two bottom pairs of leafes are damaged from the overwatering incident. What worries me is the weird form of the newer leafes and the brown spots.

I'll be going out to the hydrostore today and pick up some PH-sticks, can't afford one of those digital meters right now... Did some googling on the PH in my area and it seems like the median is around 8-8.4 (if memory serves I want like 5.5-6, so yeah, quite a diff). Since I havn't measured before I'll pick up some PH down as well and hope that it's too high. Was also thinking about getting a 5L jug to keep a small buffert with proper PH. Hoping that the hempys airate the roots enough, since there wont be much air in the water if it sits for a few days.

I can choose between GHE PH down liquid or dry. Same same but different or is one of them preferred?

Next week I will get a circulating fan in there as well, hopefully I can put the lights closer with that one. Right now I feel like I did everything possibly wrong, should have waited, saved some money and have everything ready from the get go. Moral is low, but not giving up.

hibachi: I think a 400w will be too small for a 120? I only ran the sputnik during my test run, and I could put my hand on the glass lid without being burned at all. Seems to me like a decent piece of equipment. I think I did a note of temps early in my journal.

Take care

 

[dank420uk]

Alright m8 there is a cpl of things you can do first off you dont need that perilite round that rockwool... i am a noob myself i am using GHE liquid drops to adjust the ph if your struggling m8 use formalex its a weak nutrient solution for seedlings and cuttings use 1m or 2ml per 1ltr of tap water the ph comes out about 6ish works for me anyway just make up the feed as i said then give the seedlings enough to soak that rockwool then let it dry a bit job done m8...other growers on here might be able to help you better as i am just a noob

 

[Lazyeye]

Thanks for the advice dank! The perlite on top of the cubes are just there from the last transplant, and me being to lazy to take it off

I went out and got the GHE liquid drops as well, along with GHE dry PH down. As you can you see from the pics the PH out of the tap was WAY fucking high, no wonder my plants are hating me! I also read that you want to lower the PH over a length of time, otherwise they might get in osmotic shock (whatever the fuck that is).

I filled up a 5L jug and put such a tiny amount of that dry powder in it, not even half a milliliter, and boom! First I thought I went overboard and went too low too fast. Then I was like "fuck it, let's see what happens". I pegged the PH out of the tap at like 8.5, after correction somewhere between 6.5 and 7.0 (the flash makes it look more yellow than it was).

Hopefully my plants will start liking me soon

 

[dank420uk]

nice one Lazyeye now you have the ph sorted things will pick up now!! i want to try this blue cheese myself peace

 

[Lazyeye]

I sure hope so! I put my nose on top of one of the healthier ones, and they are starting to smell as well, I loved the smell!

Morale is increasing

 

[killerweed31]

interesting project lazyeye,
ph is one of most importanrt thing in this job grower, if you check and correct in aLL waterig you see plants absorb all nutrient and look amazing ..
im tuned