DR60 Pl-l tent

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Stardawg

Triple Nova

Stripped more lower growth, plants have still been stretching but less rapidly. Queen mother unfortunately also ran into the lights and is recovering from the burn and slowed down a bit.

The Banghi haze has been looking like it is flowering but not really quite getting there - I hope there isn't a light leak or something I am missing. May very well just need more time.

 

[hestah]

Beatiul flowers 2000pm. It looks really good the way you managed to get them even like that. Did you supercrop small stems or the main stem?

Also what week into flowering on these last pics? You mentioned you will remove lower growth when stretching has slowed down. I've heard that this might cause some stress. Are you going to remove just small bita each day or do you think it's fine to remove a lot at once?
I'm asking because I'm in about the same situtation right now. 3 week into flower, most stretch has stopped and light penetration is not that good ( also use 4x55 pll, but without reflectors).

 

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Hi hestah. Thanks for the good words but now they have tiered themselves somewhat after a few plants put on a super stretch so they aren't perfectly even anymore. You also don't see a couple of them sitting on pots because they didn't stretch much ! It isn't drastic but that is the price one may pay when trying to grow so many different kinds at once. They are sitting at about day 20 in the last picture of the stardawg and triple nova so pretty close to your time table.

As for what I am supercropping if you look at the previous page pic of the queen mother for example, you will note that it is basically 4 "main" branches growing up. All of the shoots growing on the nodes off of the main stem (the ones I imagine you are referring to as the small stems) get removed to where I feel the light penetration will do decent work - about halfway up the plant at that point in my tent and situation. Those small side growths off of the mainstems will never be the very top so do not require supercropping to retard any vertical growth. If you meant am I supercropping the main trunk that the 4 branches come off of, there is no way I could crush that now as it has grown too thick and woody.

I've actually already done a round of removal on the very bottom growth earlier in flower while the main stretch was going on and did another bigger round a few days before the pictures, again removing the growth to about halfway up the plants. I have also been defoliating as necessary through all stages of growth.

I personally beat the crap out of the plants with pinching, crushing, bending, chopping and do what is convenient for me which happen to be fewer sessions of larger removal rather than spacing it out a little at a time over many sessions, not that I don't continuously take random growth here and there. I'm of the opinion that if your plants are generally healthy they will bounce back from things like defoliation, supercropping and pinching of new growth without much slowdown or stress but of course ymmv. My Alice and queen mother for example have been more or less impervious to supercropping to control the height this run and have grown into the lights burning themselves. Those probably should have been cut back before I flowered if I knew the stretch was going to be so drastic. I also do it this way because if there is a sacrifice in yield or plant stress I do not notice it enough to curb the ease of maintenance in comparison.

If you are not too familiar with doing any or all of that I would suggest going slower with the removal so you can see how they respond to the treatment before really diving in but I bet you will get comfortable with chopping off a bucket full of leaves and shoots in no time provided it fits your growing style.

Hope that helps.

 

[hestah]

Yes thats exactly what I meant by small stems, sorry for being unclear. Thank for the extensive answer, I will have a look at your previous posts here in the thread and try some super cropping next round. Will also go ahead and remove some lower growth, a few each day to get accustomed to it and see how they react.

 

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Day ~24, couple of pics from the front of the tent where i can actually get a decent pic:

Stardawg

Viet x Chem (more sativa looking one)

Mextiza 1

Mextiza 2

Plants are moving along well. Banghi haze and Queen Mother still suck for some reason. The BH seemed like it was not feeling the intensity of the lighting and was moved to a position a bit further away.
The QM just wouldn't regenerate the burnt tips and seemed stalled out so I ended up cutting them with the hopes that the next growth tip will take over, but doing so this late in flower will surely hurt the yield and finish time. One of the branches also needed to be crimped over as it had outpaced everything by a good bit and I ran out of vertical space.
I almost dumped the peyote purple due to its small stature but it is so small that I left it alone as it doesn't really get in anything else's way. Otherwise everything else seems pretty good and have stopped stretching for the most part.

I've completely cut out the Veg+Bloom now and am feeding Maxibloom for the most part for what I am hoping is a more bloom-friendly nute regimen.

 

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Well I ran into an issue, specifically the tips of the colas elongating grossly in recent days. Since the only thing I've really changed up is nutrients this run I am thinking of pointing to that as the root cause, specifically adding koolbloom too early perhaps - does anyone know if koolbloom dry has additional ingredients like hormones/PGRs? Its weirding me out because I've seen people suggest using it to combat stretch so that is another wrinkle in the ordeal. I added it thinking I could add just a tiny bit to start then progress the ratio more towards KB at the end to further cut down the N (I saw this idea in some other nute thread) but I'm not sure this was a good idea in retrospect. Next time I will stick to the KB directions and only run it at the end if I use it at all.

Today I have "flushed" the pots out with a maxibloom-only formula in hopes to stop the stretching and salvage what I have left. The stardawg and triple nova luckily have escaped the horrid elongation for the most part, but the queen mother I fear is pretty much a lost cause. I have random colas here and there on most of the rest doing the stretching unfortunately. Will take pics this weekend hopefully.

That's experimentation for ya .

 

[#1cheesebuds]

either way they still look very good. ull probly get a good harvest.

 

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Sorry for not updating in ages everyone, unfortunately this grow got a little away from me and was not conducive to sitting well for pictures.

Thanks cheese, yea I stand to get a decent little harvest despite the issues but this has been quite an annoying run in many ways.

The stretching issue that I mentioned in the previous post has really messed up the structure of Queen Mother, Banghi Haze, and the X18. It also seems to have delayed the flowering time by a week or two on most and stalled the QM out totally until I discontinued the nute. I also had been using Hydroponic Research +Life which apparently houses hormones and will not be using that any longer.

Anyway, here is the best whole tent shot I could muster at the moment. I maxed out the available height this run and could not raise the lights any taller to get a good group shot hence the lack of photos this run. The big hole in the middle is where the Mextiza1 stood, now with the top colas harvested and out of the way. Left on a decent amount of lower growth on most plants to do a resin/oil run. Late 50s on 12/12 for these:

This Mextiza was a pretty nice plant, easy to grow, finishes fast, smells and tastes of sweet lemon/lime. Unfortunately this pheno sees it fit to kick out a few late nanners.

 

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Here is the Alice. I think the growth might have elongated a bit from the nute issue so I am going to give it another run soon along with many from these runs without getting cute with the nutrients.

It is looking to turn a very dark purple while I flush but like the mextiza I don't think I started it fast enough to get it all the way there before I chop it.

Here is my mini Peyote Purple which like pretty much every other one I have seen, frosted up real nice.

Here is a SDGxC99 lower nug. This plant smells I dare say better than both parentals, a very nice sweet astringent grapefruit candy scent. Unfortunately it stayed pretty small the whole time and I won't be getting much from it. Will explore other seeds of this cross in the future.

 

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This is the largest Triple Nova cola which I had to mostly remove because of bud rot. My banghi haze also experienced this and had to have about the top 1/4 removed as well. I believe the height to which these plants grew restricted the airflow that I normally get and give to them.

The runt stardawg ended up being a pretty nice plant. It is on the final swell and flush and will be chopped soonish.

This is the skinnier more "sativa" Viet x Chem plant. Easily the biggest cola in the whole tent.

Here is the other pheno in the tent, not quite as large but still nice and looking closer to the chem side of things.

That is it for now. I am tapering the nutes down on all the plants that are still eating and flushing the rest. Will also be cutting an half hour/hour of lighting tonight to move things along faster to start a new run. Despite the issues this run has been the stankest that I've run yet, the filter that I usually get two runs out of is not even keeping up with the final stretch here on its first go!

 

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Stardawg came down today, day 66. Could have used a little more time but I am getting paranoid about bud rot taking more this run. The little runt that could blossomed into a nice little plant with dense frosty nuggets.

Great trich coverage. Each branch has a nice heft to it.

The lowers still had great trichome coverage as well as good size for the distance from the lights.

Chopped.

Next on the block is my tiny peyote purple.

 

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Mextiza into the freezer. Trimming less and less every time - as long as its covered in trichs it can stay for vaping.

Took down the peyote and the SDGxC99 recently as well. SDGxC99 didn't get very large either but great smell and trich coverage. I'm hoping the cindy addition added a little bit of sizzle to the otherwise unremarkable SDG high. Left the bottom half on for oil making in a bit.

 

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Viet x Chem (chem leaner) came down on day 74. Nice sweet smell. Good yielder as well. Looking very forward to trying both of the phenos.

Please excuse the cat hairs in some pics, had no idea what moving into a place with one would be like.

 

[#1cheesebuds]

holy cow your ladies look fantastic. wow o wow...