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Dr. Sanjay Gupta changes his tune
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ellinho
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here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-bYi-LkDTo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-bYi-LkDTo
Overall I'd say it was a pretty good presentation and is perhaps the most positive representation I've seen produced outside of people with a vested interest. There were still a few conclusions drawn that I don't agree with though. For example at one point the guy in charge of the Potency Project at University of Mississippi said that a new user smoking a high percentage THC strain is likely to experience the more negative side effects, such as nervousness, paranoia, etc. Yet most of us know that all of that comes down to the cannabinoid profile and that a strain that is high in THC but also high in CBD is not likely to cause those negative side effects because the CBD counteracts those side effects. I would conclude then that a lot of research is still focusing too much on just the THC and not enough on the complete cannabinoid profile.
my paranoid scenario runs kinda like this:
holder does away with MM and O says focus on treatment..
"obamacare" consolidates medical records electronically. we know the dea has requested and been granted access to the nsa domestic spying data.
so...
internal possession of a controlled substance becomes a crime punishable by forced "rehab"(at an approved contractor of course).
preemptive treatment.
sell it to the folks as compassionate.
we can reach the user before they become addicts and commit serious crimes..
buy stock in rehab centers...
It was good to see the Dr. riding around with the guy who had just smoked. You would never see him getting in the car with someone after they had consumed alcohol.
If he's not scared to be driven around, that says a lot.
If he's not scared to be driven around, that says a lot.
Marijuana laws on the Federal level are not likely to change before Obama's 2nd term ends, regardless of his personal feelings on the matter.
Well with the results he witnessed with the one little girl he has good reason to focus on the CBD side of things. I seriously doubt big Pharma was behind it because each case they highlighted the individuals had tried everything Big Pharma could dream up and it all failed, then they tried marijuana and had miraculous results. I don't see Big Pharma producing something that makes all their stuff look so bad.
growbig789
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I think that the story of the little girl will touch a lot of people, especially women/mothers. I know it did me as a father of a little girl. It really is amazing to see her responding to the cannabis oil treatment. It is a great thing to know that a natural plant, something demonized by the powers that be is going to surprise a lot of people and do some great things.
Its kinda mixed emotions, you know you don't want big pharma wrapping their hands around it and it becoming all about money but at the same time you know that once researchers are really able to go full tilt into it there really could be some amazing results. I just hope its the right people that make the big discoveries and its made available to the people that need it with compassion!
Its kinda mixed emotions, you know you don't want big pharma wrapping their hands around it and it becoming all about money but at the same time you know that once researchers are really able to go full tilt into it there really could be some amazing results. I just hope its the right people that make the big discoveries and its made available to the people that need it with compassion!
Blue Socks
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Speaking of that little girl did anyone else hear the part where her mom was saying when she first bought a bag for her they sold it to her for $800!! Someone was being a real greedy asshole there, I am glad that the douche brothers were able to help her out and get her her medicine at a lower more reasonable price.
$800 for what was likely an oz or something, whomever did that should be shot!
$800 for what was likely an oz or something, whomever did that should be shot!
"Paige found a Denver dispensary that had a small amount of a type of marijuana called R4, said to be low in THC and high in CBD. She paid about $800 for 2 ounces -- all that was available -- and had a friend extract the oil."
According to this article.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/07/health/charlotte-child-medical-marijuana/index.html
Pepe le skunk
Member
Watched the Cnn Dr Gupta special and thought it was nice to see a positive spin put on cannabis. However the reason they aired this might have more to do with money than most could see. Here's why!
They know that almost every state will have a ballot for full legilization in the next 10 years because of what happened in Colorado and Washington. The powers that be don't want to lose out on the money that is involved if they cannot force only a few to own and grow the weed for patients and recreation. So if they can get the legislation through that only a few of the richest people can run these places like in some of the medical states already and shoe-in's like in NJ they will be missing the revenue stream. They also showed the stuff going on in Isreal where the government runs the dispensery so big business will try and run these locations and take the ownership away from the everyday joe from owning and profiting from legilization.
A good example is legislature in PA was considering only 6 locations all controlled by very rich people trying to make it so no other locations could open and it would be a monopoly. NJ already did that with their 6 locations in the state. Make no mistake the government and big business want the revenue stream out of the hands of regular citizens ie business owners. They know the change is coming and they want to control all of it.
My suggestion is for all of the other states to copy the model Colorado used to pass prop 64 and get it on the ballets asap so big business and government do not take the revenue stream for themselves and write the ballot measures in their favor as they have with all the other laws in this country.
They know that almost every state will have a ballot for full legilization in the next 10 years because of what happened in Colorado and Washington. The powers that be don't want to lose out on the money that is involved if they cannot force only a few to own and grow the weed for patients and recreation. So if they can get the legislation through that only a few of the richest people can run these places like in some of the medical states already and shoe-in's like in NJ they will be missing the revenue stream. They also showed the stuff going on in Isreal where the government runs the dispensery so big business will try and run these locations and take the ownership away from the everyday joe from owning and profiting from legilization.
A good example is legislature in PA was considering only 6 locations all controlled by very rich people trying to make it so no other locations could open and it would be a monopoly. NJ already did that with their 6 locations in the state. Make no mistake the government and big business want the revenue stream out of the hands of regular citizens ie business owners. They know the change is coming and they want to control all of it.
My suggestion is for all of the other states to copy the model Colorado used to pass prop 64 and get it on the ballets asap so big business and government do not take the revenue stream for themselves and write the ballot measures in their favor as they have with all the other laws in this country.
growbig789
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Good points and its true, power and money will come in quick and I agree I think the people need to set the rules right now with initiatives on the ballot and lock in as liberal of personal cultivation and production for small farmers as they can. Get the broad framework passed statewide then get active in the counties and get people to realize that if they want a piece they better protect it now. In CA at least, I hope that the county govts get behind the notion that if they chose to embrace the industry, but protect it and "keep it small and local" they could really make this a sustainable, beneficial economic situation. It could be done the right way and that would be great...
That's ridiculously paranoid. Are you sure there wasn't something else in your pipe?
Colorado, at least, has st the requirements & fees low enough that it's not terribly difficult to get into the growing side of it-
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellit...goBlobs&blobwhere=1251857416241&ssbinary=true
$2750 for a license to grow isn't unreasonable, although I'm sure other requirements push up the price of entry. It looks do-able for somebody with some money to invest, although showing a profit might be another matter entirely, given that existing well financed MMJ outfits have the market to themselves the first year.
I suspect that mass production greenhouse growing will depress the wholesale price far enough that indoor grows will have a tough time competing on price. Small growers will need to find an angle, a niche, if they're to survive.
i would agree if it weren't for current events and the nature of our for profit penal system...
far out, i went through a few tissues with that one, go Charlotte!
