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Always knew the rape van was suspish, dubtrog told me it was blacked out to stop the light interupting the constant 12/12 inside the van..i believed him.
 

MJPassion

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Maybe. The issues I was having seem to be going away. This next batch coming down , none of the branches on any of the plants turned to hay. Trich production seems to be normal, and they stink like they should.


I have been spraying my veg plants every 3 days with an Orchard Spray that the active ingredients are pyrethrin and sulfur. Anything I had in veg that looked fucked ( Deep Chunk clones, few other small plants) , now look like a million bucks and are growing normal looking leaves.

Culled a few plants and still have a few more to cull. Then clean where they were and up-pot some small plants I have to take their place. With the amount of varieties I have, I forget about vars I have culled within a couple weeks. The "new" "interesting" plants take the focus off the plants I kill, lol.


Plant problems? I'm curious what I missed?
Especially if you're not sure what was happening.


And that Mycotec giveaway sound funny as funk!
 

DoubleTripleOG

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Always knew the rape van was suspish, dubtrog told me it was blacked out to stop the light interupting the constant 12/12 inside the van..i believed him.




Oddly enough there's one of those white panel vans, like you see in films shot oversea's right up the road from me. No windows. I told my oldest I'm gonna buy it and paint "free candy" on the side. She has always hated those type vans, lol.

Plant problems? I'm curious what I missed?
Especially if you're not sure what was happening.


And that Mycotec giveaway sound funny as funk!

I had symptoms presenting that made me think broads and/or cyclaman mites. Scoped and scoped and found nothing. Well a few spider mites babies, but those are easy to get rid of.

At any rate, every flower crop a plant would have a few branches that turn to hay. Trich's weren't there, no smell and no potency when smoked.


I've been cleaning and spraying veg with an orchard spray I picked up. Any kind of leaf curl is now gone and the plants aren't showing any symptoms.



So last night I was transplanting and moving stuff around. I pick up a small plant and the whole thing is warm to the touch. Like warm, warm. So I checked a few others, yup same thing. Warm as fuck to the touch. So a couple plants I culled , I grabbed the stems where they meet the dirt. Yup, pulled right out. Root's were rotten .



So a couple things are happening here. The veg tent is way to warm, and the roots are getting cooked. And/or the roots have that rotting disease , I can't think of the name of it at the moment. So with fucked up root's , I can see branches "dudding" on flowering plants, and plants in veg showing symptoms of root issues.


At least that's my best guess at what's going on. Just gonna keep cleaning and trying to control tent temps. I have a 6" inline fan I'm gonna hook up to the veg tent with hot containers. That will move about 3x as much air as the little fan I have in there now.
 

FlaDankster

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I feel ya on the warm temps.Have had a shit storm here and i've lost some of my stock.Veg tent is on average of 97 degrees with just a 6 bulb T5.Hope ya get things sorted out for the better.Winter can't get here fast enough for me lol.
 

Miraculous Meds

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Oddly enough there's one of those white panel vans, like you see in films shot oversea's right up the road from me. No windows. I told my oldest I'm gonna buy it and paint "free candy" on the side. She has always hated those type vans, lol.



I had symptoms presenting that made me think broads and/or cyclaman mites. Scoped and scoped and found nothing. Well a few spider mites babies, but those are easy to get rid of.

At any rate, every flower crop a plant would have a few branches that turn to hay. Trich's weren't there, no smell and no potency when smoked.


I've been cleaning and spraying veg with an orchard spray I picked up. Any kind of leaf curl is now gone and the plants aren't showing any symptoms.



So last night I was transplanting and moving stuff around. I pick up a small plant and the whole thing is warm to the touch. Like warm, warm. So I checked a few others, yup same thing. Warm as fuck to the touch. So a couple plants I culled , I grabbed the stems where they meet the dirt. Yup, pulled right out. Root's were rotten .



So a couple things are happening here. The veg tent is way to warm, and the roots are getting cooked. And/or the roots have that rotting disease , I can't think of the name of it at the moment. So with fucked up root's , I can see branches "dudding" on flowering plants, and plants in veg showing symptoms of root issues.


At least that's my best guess at what's going on. Just gonna keep cleaning and trying to control tent temps. I have a 6" inline fan I'm gonna hook up to the veg tent with hot containers. That will move about 3x as much air as the little fan I have in there now.
I think the word your looking for is fusarium. Might be pythium though.
Yep, I think your on it now. I was going to mention that when we talked about the mites and you hadn't found any. The root problem can show on individual branches like that imo. At least its as easy as cleaning and temp control though. Its better to run less lights than to have the temp problem for sure, from my experiences. Make sure to clean all the water res's since they might be growing the crap from the temp problems too.
 

MJPassion

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Have you tried adding a little bit of Hydrogen peroxide to your water.


Rot rot is caused by a lack of oxygen in the soil, allowing anaerobic organisms to gain a foothold in the rhizosphere.


Adding a small amount of H2O2 has gotten me through a few of those hot cups in the past if I catch them in time.


This alone is the reason I shut down my ID grow from about May until I'm ready to start seeds again. I don't know how many seeds I've killed because of a hot rhizosphere.


Also, keep in mind... I absolutely did find russet mites on a couple of cuts. I couldn't see them with a magnifying glass. With a 60X microscope they were barely visible as some sort of insect moving around on the bottom sides of the leaves, stems & petiols. These mites can travel with the seeds as well.



I'm still not positive how to turn the pics but here's some added info on Russets.
 

DoubleTripleOG

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Have you tried adding a little bit of Hydrogen peroxide to your water.


Rot rot is caused by a lack of oxygen in the soil, allowing anaerobic organisms to gain a foothold in the rhizosphere.


Adding a small amount of H2O2 has gotten me through a few of those hot cups in the past if I catch them in time.


This alone is the reason I shut down my ID grow from about May until I'm ready to start seeds again. I don't know how many seeds I've killed because of a hot rhizosphere.


Also, keep in mind... I absolutely did find russet mites on a couple of cuts. I couldn't see them with a magnifying glass. With a 60X microscope they were barely visible as some sort of insect moving around on the bottom sides of the leaves, stems & petiols. These mites can travel with the seeds as well.



I have researched pests and have a scope that goes to 200x magnification. If I had bugs I'm sure I would have seen soemthing , dead body, live crawler, something, and I see nothing. Russetts are easy to identify, casue they look like little worms. They were my first guess. But after scoping leaves on about every plant, from several different spots on the plant, I found nothing.
 

MJPassion

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Cool!


Yeah, they're freaks in the insect world.
Only thing that made me look was I could barely perceive some movement in a patch I thought was some weird mold/mildew growth.


If you happen to experience some of the same symptoms in the future, and you have the space to do so, quarantine the sick plants and allow whatever is screwing your gals up to come out into the light. It only takes a week or so until populations are large enough to see with the naked eye.
 

bigtacofarmer

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Broad mites barely look like anything under an 800x. When I had them it took getting high and viewing on computer screen. You pretty much look for an egg shape bubble thats does not look like all the other resin glands. Then point cursor at it, smoke one and wait for it to move.

Hope its not them. Although I have read sulfur is an easy fix in veg. Wish I knew that 7 years ago.
 

Vanilla Phoenix

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I got the same root rot/fusarium or whatever it is and my temps don’t get above 80 at canopy level. I think my monster came in a bad batch of Happy Frog, but who really knows. :dunno: I just ordered some chitosan as well as some Zerotol 2.0 to try out.
 
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I just lost my gg4 to this same exact thing with the heat
My mother stock is barely holding on like trumps popularity ratings
 

sturgeongeneral

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Pythiums my thought. Basic root rot. Peroxide or a foliar of florashield should help. I used to have that happen in soil sometimes. Now I treat everything with florashield and roots stay nice and white.
 
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useless.gardens

root issues in coco or soil.

imo, you need to inoculate with our fungi friends... mycorrhizae.

orca.
great white.
myco madness.
plant success.
oregonism.
yada yada yada.
so many brands out there.

just like you, im thrifty, i like the cheapy but goody version :

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-LB-Roots...520346&hash=item4b4a3ca5fb:g:snMAAOSwb6dakq~q

pick one you like & lightly sprinkle on the surface once a week & mix in.
plus mixing in the "mycos" is good for aeration.
just my 2 cents.
 

sturgeongeneral

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I kinda like the orca myself. I've been using it on a couple soil plants and I like how fast the roots explode. I'm considering sourcing a liquid of it and using it on my trays also.
 
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