frostqueen
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There it is! Nice job. Looks delicious.
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There it is! Nice job. Looks delicious.
How long do you guys let her go for indoors?
Was planning on 9 weeks since I'm running glue in there with her.
8 weeks today.
side by side growing with GG4
DW is thicker, GG4 has longer buds. will be interesting to see which one yields the more. I think it will be pretty close.
side by side growing with GG4
DW is thicker, GG4 has longer buds. will be interesting to see which one yields the more. I think it will be pretty close.
Very nice, Silvermullet.
Yet to be seen for sure but I think the GG4 will win by a little. Just a bit more density and better light penetration so more developed lowers.
Quality on both is very good imo and yield shouldn't be vastly different.
I went 60 days but DW probably could have gone a bit longer. Glue was so faded and my veg room was bursting at the seams so it had to be done.
And hell no I'm not trimming it all my self lol.
Nice, both of those don't look like the easiest to trim. The ill stardawg is very similar to the glue in growth habit: same veg rate, same stretch, roughly same finish time, but the buds get rounder and have fewer protrusions than the glue.
Ever look at the glue under a scope though? Holy shit does it put energy into making oil.
Ever look at the glue under a scope though? Holy shit does it put energy into making oil.
Yeah the Glue is quite the specimen. Personally that subtle chocolaty undertone really does it for me. Gums up the scissors pretty quickly.
DW is a bit rounder with less foxtailing than the glue. I had my thermostat go wonky about mid way through flowering this last round and I didn't catch it until the end so instead of it being 79F canopy temps it was more like 85+. The DW didn't seem as affected as the GG4 which foxtailed a bit more than I'd like.
The first time I ran the DW I let it go pretty long and it threw a few nanners down low so I collected them and used them to pollinate the GG4 but unfortunately it doesn't look like it took. Not viable pollen I guess, pretty sure I nailed the timing.
DW is a bit rounder with less foxtailing than the glue. I had my thermostat go wonky about mid way through flowering this last round and I didn't catch it until the end so instead of it being 79F canopy temps it was more like 85+. The DW didn't seem as affected as the GG4 which foxtailed a bit more than I'd like.
The first time I ran the DW I let it go pretty long and it threw a few nanners down low so I collected them and used them to pollinate the GG4 but unfortunately it doesn't look like it took. Not viable pollen I guess, pretty sure I nailed the timing.
I feel like I've read of the Chem lineage putting out sterile bananas so I was thinking that could be a possibility with the DW. Got to find a good male to dust some stuff up soon.
I find meself wondering if highish Mn doesn't trigger a reproductive response. You aren't going overboard by any means. But I found like 4 full on 6-12 inch branches of balls growing right out of bud in a plant that never herms outdoor. Weirdest thing I have seen so far.
And I really have no clue...just a suspicion
And I really have no clue...just a suspicion
I flipped my next round of DW/GG4/BBH a few days ago and sprayed the bud set formula that same day.
I might just see how it goes without a second application. Gary did say a second app may not be needed.
That's interesting on the reproductive response thought. I didn't get any herms outdoor this year but I did some pollinating on my own, mostly on the cherry pie. The seeds that came out of those buds are monsters, like noticeably larger than any seeds I've ever bought. Might just be the CP being a good momma but I dunno. Germ rate and vigor on those seeds has been excellent as well.
I might just see how it goes without a second application. Gary did say a second app may not be needed.
That's interesting on the reproductive response thought. I didn't get any herms outdoor this year but I did some pollinating on my own, mostly on the cherry pie. The seeds that came out of those buds are monsters, like noticeably larger than any seeds I've ever bought. Might just be the CP being a good momma but I dunno. Germ rate and vigor on those seeds has been excellent as well.
frostqueen
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Hey there, sorry I missed this. The DW usually goes around 9 weeks for me, if you like half cloudy half clear. She can really beef up a lot in that last 10 days.
I have her running with the GG#4 too (the market demands it!), and they finish together usually. The DW can be a bit more fussy; I know people who have had a tough time keeping her consistent. She can be a tough trim if she doesn't hit her stride. She can also be nearly trimless if she does hit it. I just try to get the roots as developed as possible before flower and she is always great.
There is no question micros/ultra traces influene seed quality. Bet you those big seeds are seriously vigorous
Right on, thanks for coming back to comment. Pretty happy with how this last round came out but always room for improvement. DW might be a little fussy but not bad like a tired OG cutting or something. I think I just have to figure out how best to spread her out and prune her right to get a little more light penetration to the lowers. I'll get some pics of dried nugs posted up soon.
frostqueen
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Yeah, the lowers can get a bit fluffy if they don't get enough light with the DW. I try to pull off the smaller lower branches with this one now and focus all the growth into the larger branches.
It does toss nanners a bit when it stresses. I saw them a time or two in earlier runs. It only does this sometimes, though. It could be sensitive to high levels of something.
As an aside, this girl routinely tests at 28%. I saw one guy get over 30% from it. Crazy. It also has one of the highest terpene levels.
I hit it with pollen from The White reversed. I bet those will be some impressive sisters. I have a backlog of things to test so I probably won't get to those before next summer.
Yeah I could see that being a great cross. Maybe bring a little more frost to the mix. DW doesn't necessarily lack frost but growing it right next to the GG4 I can see that the glue wins in that category hands down.
I should probably get some STS and try reversing a few of the good clones I have but I think that might be a project for next winter. The next few months are all about hunting through some of the beans I've bought and made with main goal of finding a good male.
This weather's got me fantasizing about chopping down all the seedlings, finding a babysitter for the moms and hopping on a plane to somewhere warm and sunny
frostqueen
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Yeah I could see that being a great cross. Maybe bring a little more frost to the mix. DW doesn't necessarily lack frost but growing it right next to the GG4 I can see that the glue wins in that category hands down.
I should probably get some STS and try reversing a few of the good clones I have but I think that might be a project for next winter. The next few months are all about hunting through some of the beans I've bought and made with main goal of finding a good male.
This weather's got me fantasizing about chopping down all the seedlings, finding a babysitter for the moms and hopping on a plane to somewhere warm and sunny
I hear you there, brother. I haven't had a vacation in a couple years now. I'm due. I'm unfortunately also a control freak and balk at just hiring my trim girl to oversee my scene while I'm gone. But I should. Life is waay too short not to travel.
As far as new lines made with these reversed elite cultivars, still to grow out... yeah. I could start now and run only new tests for years and never get to them all. I try to rotate 4 new seedlings in every 5 weeks or so, but that just isn't nearly enough. I need a dedicated room.
I hired a guy to watch my room while I was gone for two weeks. One thing that made it easy was an aeroponic cloner. I cut a bunch of clones into it and prepped my soil just before I left and all he had to do was plant them when they rooted, water the soil a bit to keep the top of the pots moist, and make sure the electronics were running. I'm in larger volumes of soil per plant so that helped, but when I got back the plants were close to being able to flip the room.
