Does anyone know of a dreamy, hallucinatory strain?

[Mad Scientist]

I argree on the Neville's Haze. I once grew an almost indica-like pheno that got me stoned like an afghani, but while I sat there couchlocked suddenly I thought I saw something move in the corner of my eye. When I looked left, nothing was to be seen of course, but then again I saw something move on the right of me! I thought I was going mental for a moment, but then realised it could be nothing else then the Nevil I'd been smoking. I experienced similar 'hallucinations' on thai brick weed after having smoked a lot of it, or combined with a heavy indica. Thai can be racy though, making you paranoid. But in general it's sativas that will most likely elicit what may be defined as hallucinations. I'm pretty sure that almost any pure sativa will make you hallucinate as long as you smoke enough of it. Some more easily than others, but I think this was the main reason why indigenous cultures have cultivated cannabis, think of all the rites and rituals of indian tribes for instance.

 

[Guest]

i can back "halucinating off of weed' with scientific fact:

i have had auditory/visual hallucinations from smoking pot

and thats a scientifict fact!

peace to you all!

bILL

 

[Guest]

The trippiest smoke I've ever had was some nice Nepalese hash... Gave real hallucinations.

Re: is cannabis psychedelic? Devilock is right in a way... There is a definition of psychedelic drugs that it has to have that serotonin activity like LSD and psilocybin... which other psychoactive and hallucinogenic drugs like THC, ketamine, atropine etc. does not have. Therefore they are hallucionogenics but not psychedelics. Most people are not aware of this definition, so to Avarage Joe and me (In every day life I'm not that nitpicky regarding what's psychedelic or not, I go by feeling) these drugs are definately psychedelics. In a broad sense that is.

 

[Raco]

I´ve smoked several african herbs that were so potent as seeing things that aren´t there takes....hallucinogenic

 

[Guest]

Cool. Bangi haze will be in my next grow, so then I will have both Nepalese and african genetics in one plant. Hallucinogenic?

 

[Syd]

Cannabis is classified as a psychedelic...
Mais-

Cannabis is classified as "hallucinogen" just 'cause they didn't know how to classify it to make it illegal and, above all, socially unacceptable. You need a real intoxication to get real hallucinations by cannabinoids.
As already said, "psychoactive" and "hallucinogen" are very different things.
...Christ, it's 2006 now! Stop to drink aslingerian bullshits like they were water!
"Psychedelic" isn't a clinical term and so means absolutely nothing here. Ummagamma is psychedelic, a molecule can't.

 

[Guest]

Actually it is a clinical term (though IMO not a very good one), it was coined by psychiatrist Humphry Osmond in 1956.

 

[Syd]

Hi YBC, I'll do a research about him. Anyway the official classifiation never talked about "psychedelia". In facts we have to clarify that a "clinical term" in Psychiatry or Psychology could be non-clinical in Neurology or Physiology.

 

[Ganico]

Sativa's can be very psychedelic. My first time smoking weed and my first time eating shrooms were almost exact.

 

[Syd]

You were right YBC. I've needed a 2nd joint (more sativish) to clear up my mind but now I got it. I was misunderstanding.

 

[Joe A. Grower]

i can back "halucinating off of weed' with scientific fact:

i have had auditory/visual hallucinations from smoking pot

and thats a scientifict fact!

I'll second that. I rarely get any kind of visuals from pot, but virtually any strong pot gives me auditory hallucinations. I hear shit all the time. Weird noises, muffled "voices," knocks, pops, and all other kinds of indistinct sorts of background noise. It used to freak me out, but I've just gotten used it and don't get uptight anymore.

 

[Orangelazaris]

Halucination depends alot moree on the user than the bud.

People with schizophrenic tendencys will halucinate on a cup of coffe.

Ive smoked plenty of weed where i have had visual and to some extent Aural halucinations. Mostly due to my own brains chemestry i must admid.


BEst,

OL

 

[Guest]

Some acapulco gold I use to smoke would make everything very dreamy and colors were much brighter then normal. Also I've smoked enough hash to where I felt like I was far out enough to be on a psychedelic and had a frame by frame thing going on for a while.

 

[zamalito]

The trippiest smoke I've ever had was some nice Nepalese hash... Gave real hallucinations.

Re: is cannabis psychedelic? Devilock is right in a way... There is a definition of psychedelic drugs that it has to have that serotonin activity like LSD and psilocybin... which other psychoactive and hallucinogenic drugs like THC, ketamine, atropine etc. does not have. Therefore they are hallucionogenics but not psychedelics. Most people are not aware of this definition, so to Avarage Joe and me (In every day life I'm not that nitpicky regarding what's psychedelic or not, I go by feeling) these drugs are definately psychedelics. In a broad sense that is.

I have to disagree. Ketamine, pcp, and dxm are classified as disassociative hallucinogens. 5ht action doesn't mean hallucinogenic activity. Most empathogens and all amphetamines exert serotinergic activity. The 5-ht2 receptor is strongly linked to hallucinogenic activity but is not the only source of it. The bottom line is there are no hallucinations or behaviors contained in any drug. All of these are inside of us and drugs just open up parts of ourselves. Oddly in my wreckless youth I've had stronger hallucinations off of opiates cocaine and methamphetamine than I've ever had from lsd or thc. I feel psychedelic is sort of a catch all used to throw drugs that can cause paranoia but don't fit into the typical stimulant, depressant, and narcotic categories.

 

[Orangelazaris]

Exactly.

 

[Guest]

Very well said zamalito

guerilla

 

[Mibri]

I've had nepalese hash doing that to me. I'm just wondering... everybody agrees that some nepalese hash is VERY strong, so my question is. What plant are they growing since they can get hash that strong? Do they put something in it? I just wonder why my trichomes aren't just as strong, since im growing some of the supposedly best strains? I can roll it in my fingers and get it black too.

 

[begeesterdechol]

When i was reading this yesterday strains with a high THCV content popped in me mind but i was too late to post
It's been some time since i read about THCV but i believe it causes a shorter but more intense high. And it's prevalent in some Southern african and Central to Southern Asian strains. Altough after some research it seems the chemical activity is only proven in animals and not in humans.

 

[Guest]

This is the stuff that does it for me.

 

[DarkGreen]

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From my personal experience, I have found that eating canna butter or THC oil in food or drink has caused more hallucinations than smoking it. What I also found is that if you were to dim the lights in your setting, you will tend to "see" a lot more. Accidental ingestion of more cannabinoids is more prevalent than smoking, and you will often get a more pronounced effect.
Dissociative Anesthetics like PCP, Ketamine, and DXM work on the NMDA receptor and glutamate. By blocking the brain neurotransmitter glutamate, your mind will in effect be detachted from your body. This isn't exactly one would call a path to enlightenment that you would obtain from a hallucinogen. Often words like death, dull, and dark are used to describe the "out of body experience" or loss of perception to sensation. A person seeking a spiritual response from these will not find it here. Even the average recreational enthuesiast will not have a lot of fun and often become paranoid.
Usually a combination of other drugs in a cocktail will more often cause one to hallicinate moreso than smoking a few joints alone. Illicit drugs that enhance/modify the serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine receptor will cause a psychedelic expereince. The reason that they are so effective is that they mimick our body's own neurotransmitter pathways. In fact they will fit into their receptor sites in the brain and act as an agonist just like a key fits into a lock. So which drugs act like our body's chemicals? Tryptamines like LSD and psilocin molecule resemble the chemical structure of serotonin. While phenethylamines like mescaline, amphetamines, MDMA, and most stimluants resemble the body's neurotransmitter norepinephrine. Drugs like cocaine increase the level of dopamine in the brain, but amino acids like tyrosine or l-dopa are precursors. Amphetamines also act like dopamine to some degree. Only until recently, have scientists discovered the the body's anandamide system. To be simple, this is where THC fits in. This makes one believe that getting high may be part of our recreational pastime. CB1 receptors, to be exact, are the main receptors that are involved in our nervous system. To better understand how exogenous cannabinoids modify this anandamide system, one will figure out how a person under it's influence will hallucinate.