Does anyone believe that there is a synergy between man and plant??

[whiskeytango420]

What are these vibes made of? How do they change? How do we produce them?

good question! Maybe the electrical currents in our bodies alter with our mood? Kinda an "Aura" per se? Plants pick up on this?
Stab in the dark, but there is already proof that sound works wonders with plants. Certain frequencies cause the stomata to open much wider and all kinds of other good stuff....
Ill find a link for that one...

theres my weak attempt to explain it...Havent really looked into WHY...got me thinking now K!
good vibes

 

[Mr.Hades]

I believe it is true, That your plants can sense your emotions. If you love your plants they will love you back.

I forgot where I read this article...

But what happened was a team of scientists were trying to figure that exact thing out.
They hooked up a plant to some type of machine, and tried to act angry towards it. Nothing happened. They tried and tried over and over again to act angry towards the plant by insulting, yelling, etc. They finally concluded that it wasnt true and when the scientist started to write his conclusion, his pen stopped working. And as soon as he got frustrated with the pen and cursed it, the machine had a reading.

So it turned out that the plants can only sense true emotions or something to that extent. Probably the same way animals can sense it.

 

[whiskeytango420]

I gotta get going, but here is something on the sound thing
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19526196.100-plant-genes-switched-on-by-sound-waves.html

it says plants have a sense of touch as well....hmmm
They are ALIVE...not too hard to believe there is synergy between us and them.
good vibes

 

[HippyJohnny]

VIbes = Thoughts

Thoughts = Vibes

Careful what you think it is the most potent magic.
Plants sense the harmony or lack of it.
We get what we dwell upon.

Just my opinion.

 

[Hundred Gram Oz]

Hey guys here is an article that I posted on ICM a lil while ago but nobody really read it lol, it's about the effect of playing different kinds of music to plants, it gives some staggering results and it's worth a read for every grower! Science has taught us a lot about plants but IMO there is much much more to learn and why shouldn't plants respond to music? Have a good read


Beethoven's Midnight Sonata to guide you through the read...enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQVeaIHWWck

In 1973, a woman named Dorothy Retallack published a small book called The Sound of Music and Plants. Her book detailed experiments that she had been conducting at the Colorado Woman’s College in Denver using the school’s three Biotronic Control Chambers. Mrs. Retallack placed plants in each chamber and speakers through which she played sounds and particular styles of music. She watched the plants and recorded their progress daily. She was astounded at what she discovered.

Her first experiment was to simply play a constant tone. In the first of the three chambers, she played a steady tone continuously for eight hours. In the second, she played the tone for three hours intermittently, and in the third chamber, she played no tone at all. The plants in the first chamber, with the constant tone, died within fourteen days. The plants in the second chamber grew abundantly and were extremely healthy, even more so than the plants in the third chamber. This was a very interesting outcome, very similar to the results that were obtained from experiments performed by the Muzak Corporation in the early 1940s to determine the effect of "background music" on factory workers. When music was played continuously, the workers were more fatigued and less productive, when played for several hours only, several times a day, the workers were more productive, and more alert and attentive than when no music was played.

For her next experiment, Mrs. Retallack used two chambers (and fresh plants). She placed radios in each chamber. In one chamber, the radio was tuned to a local rock station, and in the other the radio played a station that featured soothing "middle-of-the-road" music. Only three hours of music was played in each chamber. On the fifth day, she began noticing drastic changes. In the chamber with the soothing music, the plants were growing healthily and their stems were starting to bend towards the radio! In the rock chamber, half the plants had small leaves and had grown gangly, while the others were stunted. After two weeks, the plants in the soothing-music chamber were uniform in size, lush and green, and were leaning between 15 and 20 degrees toward the radio. The plants in the rock chamber had grown extremely tall and were drooping, the blooms had faded and the stems were bending away from the radio. On the sixteenth day, all but a few plants in the rock chamber were in the last stages of dying. In the other chamber, the plants were alive, beautiful, and growing abundantly.

Mrs. Retallack’s next experiment was to create a tape of rock music by Jimi Hendrix, Vanilla Fudge, and Led Zeppelin. Again, the plants turned away from the music. Thinking maybe it was the percussion in the rock music that was causing the plants to lean away from the speakers, she performed an experiment playing a song that was performed on steel drums. The plants in this experiment leaned just slightly away from the speaker; however not as extremely as did the plants in the rock chambers. When she performed the experiment again, this time with the same song played by strings, the plants bent towards the speaker.

Next Mrs. Retallack tried another experiment again using the three chambers. In one chamber she played North Indian classical music performed by sitar and tabla, in another she played Bach organ music, and in the third, no music was played. The plants "liked" the North Indian classical music the best. In both the Bach and sitar chambers, the plants leaned toward the speakers, but he plants in the Indian music chamber leaned toward the speakers the most.

She went on to experiment with other types of music. The plants showed no reaction at all to country and western music, similarly to those in silent chambers. However, the plants "liked" the jazz that she played them. She tried an experiment using rock in one chamber, and "modern" (dischordant) classical music of negative composers Arnold Schönberg and Anton Webern in another. The plants in the rock chamber leaned 30 to 70 degrees away from the speakers and the plants in the modern classical chamber leaned 10 to 15 degrees away.

I spoke with Mrs. Retallack about her experiments a few years after her book was published, and at that time I began performing my own experiments with plants using a wood-frame and clear-plastic-covered structure that I had built in my back yard. For one month, I played three-hours-a-day of music from Arnold Schönberg’s negative opera Moses and Aaron, and for another month I played three-hours-a-day of the positive music of Palestrina. The effects were clear. The plants subjected to Schönberg died. The plants that listened to Palestrina flourished.

In these experiments, albeit basic and not fully scientific, we have the genesis of a theory of positive and negative music. What is it that causes the plants to thrive or die, to grow bending toward a source of sound or away from it?

Source: http://www.dovesong.com/positive_mus...xperiments.asp

 

[whiskeytango420]

Thanks for that link 100!! I have been playing different types of music for each stage of growth FOREVER....lol
Glad to see some more studies on it!

good vibes

"you must spread more rep around before giving it to hundredgramoz again"

 

[DocLeaf]

RE: Thread title

Yes. There is are obvious connections between animals and plants,, between plants and animals. In many cases one cannot survive without the other.

 

[Hundred Gram Oz]

No problem whiskey I thought it was very interesting. I'm currently on a break from growing after losing all my mothers but when I'm up and running again, which will be very very soon I will try this experiment out. Do you play constant music or have breaks? Do you think it has a benefit?

I remember my first grow I heard that talking to your plants helps them grow so I stuck on the radio with them LOL, then I started thinking 'hey meby it's the C02 that's the benefit and not the actual talking' so I stopped, but over the years I've always thought about experimenting again with sound to aid the growing, I'm pretty convinced that the sound waves could stimulate the plant and encourage it to grow, meby even help plants relieve stress, if this was true it could prove to be an excellent way to help speedy recovery of plants that have been put under low/high stress after-all music is proven to relieve stress in humans so I think it would be worth a try with plants.

HGO

 

[Hundred Gram Oz]

RE: Thread title

Yes. There is are obvious connections between animals and plants,, between plants and animals. In many cases one cannot survive without the other.

Doc that is a very interesting and VALID point. All lifeforms rely on another, each system relies on a different system to survive, like how an alarm system relys on the electrical system to function, we are all linked in one way or another. If you are acting a maggot in prison they throw you in solidarity confident, in other words they take you away from people as a punishment. Now if your in prison your going to be locked up with murders and rapists, paedophiles, and other such nasties but your punishment is to be removed from them LOL we thrive to be stimulated in different ways, sight, audio, feeling, taste, smell, I think plants feel the sound waves and it stimulates them in a positive way.

HGO

 

[Hundred Gram Oz]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to DocLeaf again

 

[DocLeaf]

we did music tests on plants (rooted clones) back at horti college..

.. the sample plants liked classical music more than heavy rock :

frequency : studies show that when one species (with a certain frequency) is removed from an environ,, another species (with the same frequency) will move in and inhabit the space. This interchange reflects a harmony within nature (of frequency) that always remains constant.

 

[Hundred Gram Oz]

Very interesting Doc, your results would concur with the results in the article, that they respond better to classical music. Having rock music loving plants could turn bad especially when you get home and you find them with them full body tattoos, driving motorcycle around the grow room, and pollinating every one of your prized baby girls

DL do you care to explain what you mean when you say 'with a certain frequency' do individual plants give off different frequencies? Very interesting post, food for thought .

 

[DocLeaf]

Yes. EVERYTHING has a frequency!!!

In the beginning there were cords of sound. These vibrations entered all natural substances - rocks, water, animals and plants - so giving them their own pulse or frequency. This energy is only now being discovered by scientists.

Aristotle's dogmatic approach to metaphysics also suggests that "plants have souls".

In Tolkien mythology : Ilúvatar ("Father of All") first created the Ainur, a group of eternal spirits or demiurges, called "the offspring of his thought". Ilúvatar brought the Ainur together and showed them a theme, from which he bade them make a great music.

 

[DRorganic]

we are all connected we all came from a giant explosion in space. we are made up of every thing in the universe . even thc receptors in the brain .how did they get there with out them you would smoke and just get a placebo effect. every plant i grew was different yes by its own genetics. but adding man to the equation . man=known. ex spells co2 . has ability to do things that are unknown .evolving and not Evan know it.only uses small amount of brain activity. cause environment the way he or she was raised as a species on this planet. example. child grows up in a situation where he or she is beaten treated bad hears negative comments all there life .

child 2 grows up tough to love the planet .what taken out must be given back. positive reinforcement wake up with a positive out look on life .been thought at a young age ther
is no such word as cant. experiences other powers of perception through life. more intoon with the environment around him/or her.


every plant i grew was like it wanted to pleas me because i gave it pleasure through its life. water. nutrients . light. + man/wonen

 

[nepalnt21]

if you don't believe there is a synergy between plants and man, you are not paying attention.

 

[whiskeytango420]

Yes. EVERYTHING has a frequency!!!

In the beginning there were cords of sound. These vibrations entered all natural substances - rocks, water, animals and plants - so giving them their own pulse or frequency. This energy is only now being discovered by scientists.

Aristotle's dogmatic approach to metaphysics also suggests that "plants have souls".

In Tolkien mythology : Ilúvatar ("Father of All") first created the Ainur, a group of eternal spirits or demiurges, called "the offspring of his thought". Ilúvatar brought the Ainur together and showed them a theme, from which he bade them make a great music.

*must spread rep before giving it to DocLeaf again....
Thanks for the vast amount of knowledge you have given! I have been looking into this for a while, and couldnt find as much info as you gave in this thread in the last few days...lol
Maybe I wasnt looking hard enough...lmao

good vibes

 

[Balazar]

Absolutely yes! There is synergy between people and plants. Have you ever tried putting magnets next to plants? You can see a drastic difference in the way they grow. We have the same electromagnetic fields surrounding us. They may not be as strong but they are there. Depending on what your thinking about and focusing on your brain emits an electromagnetic field at different frequencies 24/7. Some times when I'm in the garden it feels like there is energy flowing in and around the plants and I'm absorbing some of it. Some times I just go in there to play my guitar. I know they love it and many times it just gives me this surreal feeling of meditation that energizes me and leaves me feeling tingly all over.

 

[h^2 O]

yes
i'd say because we've been interacting with nature for like 8 million years

 

[h^2 O]

Absolutely yes! There is synergy between people and plants. Have you ever tried putting magnets next to plants? You can see a drastic difference in the way they grow. We have the same electromagnetic fields surrounding us. They may not be as strong but they are there. Depending on what your thinking about and focusing on your brain emits an electromagnetic field at different frequencies 24/7. Some times when I'm in the garden it feels like there is energy flowing in and around the plants and I'm absorbing some of it. Some times I just go in there to play my guitar. I know they love it and many times it just gives me this surreal feeling of meditation that energizes me and leaves me feeling tingly all over.

can i move magnets with thought?! How does that work? I know CT scans and shiyat show the brain, and MRIs actually use suprise magnets...but like is there a way to measure your brain's output? Would it be detectable from like across the room? I'm gonna smoke a bowl and try to make a painting fly off the wall

 

[sparkjumper]

I used to play my plants classical music and all that crap,after some time you'll grow out of it and start working on things that will provide marked improvement.I hope I dont sound condescending man I'm not trying to.