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Tokerzdream

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This really surprises me - but it honestly tickles me a bit and makes me feel better. Means I did something right!!!!

I didn't "troll" him as much as I shared truth and tried to keep him honest, MOSTLY, by attempting to reveal, there was a facade that existed and the inner workings were not of the same heart.

Not enough lifetimes to enjoy this plant properly...

And I still fuck around and waste time that SHOULD be dedicated to uninterrupted cycles.

I HATE IT - because my heart is in seeds. I get great karma return from the universe in the plant quality I stumble upon. Truly. It's silly at times.

But, I need to grind. The GRIND...is a different beast. I need to find that beast...truly. If you've done it before, then stopped, you know what it takes - and what it costs. I need to be willing to accept the cost. It really is so far past time.

Isolated clone selections currently still in existence in which Stank Bros has had a hand in breeding or selecting - (Phillthy, Genetic Freaked, dank.Frank):

*Lazy Lightning (Chem D x Sour D IBL) x (SSH x Chem D IBL)
*P1 (Chem D x Sour D IBL) x (SSH x Chem D IBL)

Snow Monkey #2 - [GG4 x (GROM x Digi Bx1)]
Outlaw Cookies - (Forum x Chem D) x GG4 Bx7)
Siberian Sherbet #4 - Sunset Sherbet x [(GDP x Chem D Bx2) x (Banana x Limon Ix)]

Topsail Haze - [Cuban Black Haze x (A5 x Thai)] x A5(r)
Fam95 - (Chem 3 x Stardawg Ix2) x [TK x (Legend OG x Stardawg Ix2)]

*PLEASE - for the love of all that is cannabis - associate these two plants as an origin / starting point, the same way you would Chem 91. This is NOT a statement of ego or false importance. Nor is it an attempt to elevate these plants.

It's a sincere recognition and reservation to discuss the origins of the parents that were involved in this cross - any further - beyond this point. Because - Fuck Ratdog and his entire platform. AS FAR as I'm concerned, SSSDH - needs to be associated with "Super Snitch However x State Demands IBL".

If you WANT - SSSDH - get it from @ojd - if you read my posts - you will absolutely know that HIS cut of that seed lot - is literally one of the ONLY cannabis strains I'm still actively afraid to smoke to this very day. If I were to encounter a REAL example of it, I would smoke it like it was the first time I'd ever....all over again. Very tiny...apprehensive, hesitant, half chest full - puffs of a total newb waiting with raised eye brows and anticipation - of the animated effects D.A.R.E. videos promised me....LOL.



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Where on insta can i see the soil or get
 

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Should work fine.

Next round of seeds to start after full clean up is done:

Exotic Genetics - Cream D Mint
Sol Fire Genetics - Caribbean Cream
Thee Red Goat Genetics - Peanut Butter Breath Bx1
Undisclosed Breeder - "Buddiez"

I have a set of seeds - from a brand I really know nothing about. I'm not going to disclose what these genes are yet. There is some controversy around the gene pool and I'm not trying to get into it.

For now - I'm just going to call this particular line "Buddiez".

If I like what I find I'll get more seeds and only then will I disclose what it is. Things are crazy competitive these days. I don't want to trigger a buy out of something that is currently going overlooked. Perhaps with good reason. Maybe not.

After those get started and up potted, I'm following that up with some fems:

Gary Payton x Jokerz #31(r)
Exotic Genetics - Apple Fritter x Hood Candyz(r)
MeltingPot - GMO/Legend x Animal(r)
Goat and Monkey - Urkle x White Runtz(r)
3rd Coast - The White x Oreoz (r)



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I have a unique opportunity to grow small batch as "a white label" producer for a "brand" I happen to respect. I've never considered doing such before - but this isn't some major outfit. It's a small time grass roots hustle. It seems like it would be a fun way to get some reviews on my work via having more 3rd party evaluation.

The menu, as it is, is very east coast heavy and has the sour/chem/og line up pretty well taken care of. However, there isn't a lot of "za" being offered and the customer base is looking for it, I suppose.

So, if you notice a shift in the genes I am starting to sort through, there is a reason.

It's not like I have a big garden but quality over quantity is still a thing, apparently.



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Just wanted to let people know my phone is down so if you haven't been able to get a hold of me. Don't stress it.

I've held a theory for a long time - ever since MAC1 jumped off. Ever since Wedding Cake jumped off.

I realized in Boston when looking at genetics - that Exotic Mike put that theory in to play already - sort of. I think, that's why his lines have seen the degree of success they have. I'm intentionally exploring this theory in a round about kind of away.

Not that I put much value in this, but considering Exotic has had a placing entry in over 20 cup events, people must like what he is putting out.

That's still irrelevant to me. THE ONLY REASON - I started looking into Exotic Genetix - was the Hazlenut Cream clone, I smoked with JJNYC at ChemComp and again at PiffCon. The Hazlenut Cream - is Cuban Black Haze x Cookies n Cream.

When I smelt "Bahama Mama" it reminded me of Phillthy's cut of BKGK. The smell convinced me to buy a pack. I wasn't too interested in anything Sol Fire had paired it with, so ended up going with "Bakers Dozen" - because, it was in part, Cookies n Cream, even if generationally removed.

Sol Fire - Caribbean Creme - 6/6

-Exotic Genetix "breeders" cut of Bakers Dozen x Bahama Mama (r)

Mother:
Bakers Dozen - Milk and Cookies x Rainbow Chip
Milk and Cookies - Cookies n Cream x Triple OG
Cookies and Cream - Forum x Starfigher F2
Triple OG - (OG Kush x SoCal Master Kush) x {[TK x (SFV x Agent Orange)] x (Starfigher F1 x Starfigher Ix2)}
Rainbow Chip - Sunset Sherbet x Mint Chocolate Chip
Mint Chocolate Chip - Thin Mint Cookies x Green Ribbon Bx1

Green Ribbon Bx1
- [Trainwreck/Afgooey x (Trainwreck/Afgooey x Starfighter F2)]

Father:
Bahama Mama (r) - TropCookies x [Blackberry Kush x (Banana OG x Cherry Cookies)]

Talk about a mash up. Bahama Mama is the same thing as Don Mega - sub out GMO - stick in TropCookies. I've heard good reviews on Don Mega from several people.

Oreoz x (Wedding Cake F2 x Kush Mints #11) - 12/14

Mother:
3rd Coast Oreoz - Cookies n Cream x Secret Weapon
Cookies n Cream - Forum x Starfigher F2
Secret Weapon - (UK Cheese x Querkle) x White Widow

Father:
Seed Junky - Wedding Cake F2 x Kush Mints #11
Wedding Cake F2 - "breeders" cut of {TK x [Animal x (Forum x Blue Power)] x {TK x [Animal x (Forum x Blue Power)]
Kush Mints #11 - "breeders" cut male Bubba Kush x [Animal x (Forum x Blue Power)]

Blue Power - [(Sour Dubb x SoCal Master Kush) x (the White x Blue Moonshine]

The Seed Junky Wedding Cake F2 x Kush Mints #11 male was sorted from 3 packs of seeds, at $600 a pack. Not sure how many people are throwing down money like that for seeds, but my curiosity got the better of me, and I wanted to see what the outcross would hold.

These seeds are not at all what I would have expected. They look like true cabbage leafed indica plants. I'm actually more excited after seeing what the plants look like. Before seeing them start to grow, I really just felt like I had put focus on seeds from the hype machine. Not so sure now.

Who can figure out what in particular I'm looking at in these gene pools??? LOL



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I post this with a heavy heart.

ICmag member, @Xochi - has passed away. He was Goat and Monkey Seeds and responsible for getting Sterling Green / Sterling Skunk out to the community.

I am so glad I was able to see him in Boston and spend some time with him at the Gene Traders event after the Freedom Rally. I had intended to get a couple packs of ECSD x White Runtz, but he actually talked me out of it. Said there was so much variation, that finding a keeper in other seed lines with fewer seeds was a better decision.

If you remember, earlier this year I started a few Blue Dream x TK from his work as well. I'm still holding a couple of those phenos. One in particular, is a really really nice plant. In hindsight, I'm so glad I didn't let these plants go, thinking, I can always get more seed.

Time never slows down and the world waits for no one. Remember, everything about this existence, is temporal.

He called the line, Blue Triangle. I keep calling this one keeper from the line, "Dream Kush". Grows with 3 and 5 finger leaf sets, like an OG - but has much better internode distances and and stacks because of it. Has the growth rate and vigor of a sativa though. Kind of a bad ass plant.

I'm excited to show her off.

RIP, Xochi. Your legacy will live on here in my small little garden. Your efforts will help me survive. Thank you.

Tell people they matter. While they are still here.



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Also, I spoke with Exotic Mike about his "Mint Chocolate Chip" seed line. He says, he did NOT use Blue Power in the cross. He says he used Cookie Fam cut of GSC that he got directly from them in a trade.

His seed packs list it that way as well. Not sure how I got it mixed up.

Thin Mint Cookies x Green Ribbon Bx.

I was wrong then, about Exotic applying the same strategy I am thinking about. He also said he was done working with Starfighter and had no interest in going back to it or reintegrating it further into his current work. Says, his stuff is light years better and beyond that now.

Just a side note.



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Sol Fire - Baker's Dozen x Bahama Mama
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Oreoz x (Wedding Cake F2 x Kush Mints #11)

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The Sol Fire are growing with some genetic mutations. Just seen in the early leaves. I expect they will grow out of it.

The Oreoz x (WC F2 x KM#11) are really impressing me, to be honest, and I hate to say that. I like the way they look. Big fat cabbage indica leaves. Great smells. Stems rubs vary in intensity, but the all have that generic vanilla cake batter smell, with hints of citrus. Very exciting. I actually topped the ones not growing like runts, at the 4th internode today.

The whole reason I wanted to sort these, is because I want to take the best from this line and pair it to...

Cali-O x Starfighter.

The early smells are telling me I am going the right direction and the way I am thinking is going to work out, if my suspicions are correct.

My thought is and has been for years now:

Anything x Starfighter = okay, hit or miss offspring.

Outcross that though - B x (Anything x Starfighter) = and you will find consistently improved plants.

This has been a glaring suspicion of mine for years. It's why I wanted the Cali-O cross, because that clone is super old and very removed genetically from the more modern gene pools and combinations.

AND - I REALLY just don't like "tangie" - orange / citrus. I never really cared for SubCool's interpretation of what an orange, tastes like, I guess.

The second suspicion, is - MOST - of the increased performance, potency, and flower structure/look of Seed Junky gear - is a direct result of the insertion of the Blue Power gene pool.

So, when I laid out all the genetics and turned some red and underlined others, if you didn't guess already, what I'm looking at SPECIFICALLY:

Lines built on Forum cut.
Lines built on Starfighter.
Lines built on Blue Power.

It's really nice to find my focus again. I'm feeling much more myself lately. I miss posting. I miss sharing the plant with all of you here at ICmag. It's easy to get lost in this world - but I'm finding my way home.

Thank all of you for your patience. Let's grow some organic fire together.



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Sol Fire - Baker's Dozen x Bahama Mama View attachment 18780316

Oreoz x (Wedding Cake F2 x Kush Mints #11)

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The Sol Fire are growing with some genetic mutations. Just seen in the early leaves. I expect they will grow out of it.

The Oreoz x (WC F2 x KM#11) are really impressing me, to be honest, and I hate to say that. I like the way they look. Big fat cabbage indica leaves. Great smells. Stems rubs vary in intensity, but the all have that generic vanilla cake batter smell, with hints of citrus. Very exciting. I actually topped the ones not growing like runts, at the 4th internode today.

The whole reason I wanted to sort these, is because I want to take the best from this line and pair it to...

Cali-O x Starfighter.

The early smells are telling me I am going the right direction and the way I am thinking is going to work out, if my suspicions are correct.

My thought is and has been for years now:

Anything x Starfighter = okay, hit or miss offspring.

Outcross that though - B x (Anything x Starfighter) = and you will find consistently improved plants.

This has been a glaring suspicion of mine for years. It's why I wanted the Cali-O cross, because that clone is super old and very removed genetically from the more modern gene pools and combinations.

AND - I REALLY just don't like "tangie" - orange / citrus. I never really cared for SubCool's interpretation of what an orange, tastes like, I guess.

The second suspicion, is - MOST - of the increased performance, potency, and flower structure/look of Seed Junky gear - is a direct result of the insertion of the Blue Power gene pool.

So, when I laid out all the genetics and turned some red and underlined others, if you didn't guess already, what I'm looking at SPECIFICALLY:

Lines built on Forum cut.
Lines built on Starfighter.
Lines built on Blue Power.

It's really nice to find my focus again. I'm feeling much more myself lately. I miss posting. I miss sharing the plant with all of you here at ICmag. It's easy to get lost in this world - but I'm finding my way home.

Thank all of you for your patience. Let's grow some organic fire together.



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Cookies x starfighter x stardawg from Greenpoint is pretty good
 

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Let me explain further...

I have a personal issue, with running anything from Seed Junky at this point. It sucks too, because, shit, SeedJunky was BIRTHED on this site. We all remember the Aptus thread, in which @JackTheGrower sorted and found the Wifi #43 cut.

In case you didn't know or realize....that is who, Seed Junky Genetics and Jungle Boyz is. It started, right here, with that thread.

Jack - sold out, is the understanding. He's partnered with Kyle Kazan - Glass House - and former PIG. He is bank rolled, by someone who earned a living, putting our own people, in a fucking cage. He profited off caging us, now he profits off the plant. That's definitely the wrong look.

I have a HUGE issue, running these genetics. I'm sorry for doing so, and if you wanted to know why, I'm sorta pissed, they are looking like my cup of tea...well.....

It's sometimes, very hard for me to comprehend, all that @Gypsy Nirvana accomplished with this site. The growers here, have LITERALLY, changed the world.

Only because of an idea. OVERGROW PROHIBITION.

Hard to get angry at Jungle Boyz or Cookies, INC. or anything else - they are blowing it up. WEED - is...everywhere and they are...overgrowing...

Hello, rock...meet hard place. BUT..

Gypsy, you are the man. I hope one day to shake your hand. I owe you, everything. I wish more people felt the same and gave honor to it. I wish, there was more loyalty, more honesty, more sincerity.

Yes, Gypsy isn't growing our gardens or watering our plants - so some feel, it's THEM....but no. The access...the availability, a platform upon which to share information and preserve and trade and buy and build upon. Gypsy, you changed the world.

You changed my life, by your dedication to ICmag - and you're a real, TRUE, mother fuckin' OG. I can't fathom the price you have paid - to allow ALL of us - to succeed.

Thank you, sir.



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Cookies x starfighter x stardawg from Greenpoint is pretty good

Greenpoint is a clown. He's a crook and a liar. I'll never run his gear. I'll starve to death first.

Nothing against anyone who does, we all have our own choices to make.

Greenpoint, wronged, both Karma G and JJNYC. I can't make exception for that. Those guys are F.A.M.I.L.Y.



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