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Distinguished and Nurtured Kind
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Finally made it through all 159 pages. Learned a lot about ICmag history, and certain genetic/breeding history, which is often referenced, but rarely explained. Very helpful. This is one of maybe 5 threads on this site that I hope stay up for decades, centuries, and beyond, so people can see this beautiful little time capsule and encyclopedia.
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Tokerzdream
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Karma Genetics - Bandaid Haze#7 x A5(r) - isolated pheno - "Topsail Haze" - ie - "Apricot Piff"
This room is 5 x 5 - 12 plants - will go into 8 gallons for flower - water only organic, still rocking the mix - flowering under Mars Hydro Led FC-E6500. There will be a companion thread to go along with this particular light in it's first usage.
I currently use 2x Vortex Power Fan VTX600 - and have been doing so for the last 12-15 years. They've been with me a long time. Flawless fans. Just sound like jet engines. I've discussed noise and air flow and fan motor noise, etc - MANY - times. It's one of the primary reasons I build room-inside-a-room style gardens - for the wall thickness, for insulation, to help mute noise.
The Mars Hydro 6" Inline Duct Fan - with Thermostat control - seems to be an upgrade from the current situation. Mars has offered to let me try 2 of these in my current rooms to replace the Vortex. THAT is a tall order they are attempting to best. I love those Vortex fans. They WORK. I never have to worry about them being a weak link in the garden. They work - and that is priceless.
But - Mars Hydro has convinced me to try LED - and now I have 4 of their lights. 1 - EpiStar 160. 2 - SP3000 Limited 5 spectrum Edition. 1. FC-E6500. I really can't complain at all. They have been pretty excellent to me as a small scale grower just posting some threads.
I'm hesitant once again to try something new - but I'm starting to build a trust factor with Mars Hydro at this point. Why not try the fans?!!!
So, the rooms will eventually be cooled and filtered with new fancy high tech fans - dope! In the mean time...
"Topsail Haze"
Just wait until she starts to bloom. This girl is SPECIAL.
It really is good to be back posting. I have sincerely, honestly - missed all of you. I miss the grower talk and the nerding out on plants. I miss sharing my insights and projections and conjectures...
I've miss you all, ICmag. Truly. Thank you for the warm reception back. It means more than you know, actually. Those that meet me in person learn very quickly I have my heart on my sleeve for this place and the friends I have made here. I'm excited to continue sharing my journey with you all.
2022 - is going to be an amazing year. Just wait!! Genetic Freaked and I have so much planned - everyone wins this year. Trust.
dank.Frank
This room is 5 x 5 - 12 plants - will go into 8 gallons for flower - water only organic, still rocking the mix - flowering under Mars Hydro Led FC-E6500. There will be a companion thread to go along with this particular light in it's first usage.
I currently use 2x Vortex Power Fan VTX600 - and have been doing so for the last 12-15 years. They've been with me a long time. Flawless fans. Just sound like jet engines. I've discussed noise and air flow and fan motor noise, etc - MANY - times. It's one of the primary reasons I build room-inside-a-room style gardens - for the wall thickness, for insulation, to help mute noise.
The Mars Hydro 6" Inline Duct Fan - with Thermostat control - seems to be an upgrade from the current situation. Mars has offered to let me try 2 of these in my current rooms to replace the Vortex. THAT is a tall order they are attempting to best. I love those Vortex fans. They WORK. I never have to worry about them being a weak link in the garden. They work - and that is priceless.
But - Mars Hydro has convinced me to try LED - and now I have 4 of their lights. 1 - EpiStar 160. 2 - SP3000 Limited 5 spectrum Edition. 1. FC-E6500. I really can't complain at all. They have been pretty excellent to me as a small scale grower just posting some threads.
I'm hesitant once again to try something new - but I'm starting to build a trust factor with Mars Hydro at this point. Why not try the fans?!!!
So, the rooms will eventually be cooled and filtered with new fancy high tech fans - dope! In the mean time...
"Topsail Haze"
Just wait until she starts to bloom. This girl is SPECIAL.
It really is good to be back posting. I have sincerely, honestly - missed all of you. I miss the grower talk and the nerding out on plants. I miss sharing my insights and projections and conjectures...
I've miss you all, ICmag. Truly. Thank you for the warm reception back. It means more than you know, actually. Those that meet me in person learn very quickly I have my heart on my sleeve for this place and the friends I have made here. I'm excited to continue sharing my journey with you all.
2022 - is going to be an amazing year. Just wait!! Genetic Freaked and I have so much planned - everyone wins this year. Trust.
dank.Frank
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Plants look very healthy. 
Good to see you having fun df. Piff con sounds like it was awesome. I saw piff coasts pics on ig. Ive actually got a bunch of his pcsourd in my rooms right now. That harlem dreams looks like it was pretty good. Im real curious to see how that ft collins cough works out for you. I held a clone of it for a while a few years back but she just wasnt a good fit in the program at the time.
Hammerhead may be my #1 favorite. He has a few different threads throughout here, but his ongoing grow log is somewhat similar to this one: you learn a lot about a lot of different topics in no particular order, and I like his style and genetics. Most of the sticky threads are amazing, and I've been spending months getting through them
Mars Hydro Led - eh. They are getting there. Still spreading roots in a soil mix they think is too hot for them. They don't know yet. They'll take it and they'll like it!!! I'm waiting for them to really relax and green up. The plants weren't under any air flow until a few days ago. Putting a box fan on them to stir them a bit has REALLY helped get the stems a bit thicker and ready for flower.
I'm not nearly happy with them yet. But they are getting there. There is a long enough flower period on these plants. They'll be shaped and thinned out a couple times still. By then, they'll be nice a green and ready to rock and roll.
sturgeongeneral - how in the world did you ever manage to A.) get a hold of and then B.) decide, eh - ON THE COUGH...LOL. It happens. I've done it too. You always seem to keep a very nice selection in rotation though. I have always enjoyed watching you work.
Redrum92 - good suggestion. I just like to read. You never know who is behind the screen and how far their talents and abilities extend. One of these days, I'm going to drill Hammerhead for knowledge on chameleons. I'm really really starting to want one of those little creatures. They are so bad ass!!!
Tokerzdream - I know who you are based on those strains you talked about. Good to have you following along here at ICmag. Feel free to ask questions. Eventually, we'll kick it again. Preferably, when I have some flowers to share!!!
I never did quite post up exactly how things changed. I essentially took apart the other build and used it to frame out the new veg area. Used the old veg area to make the 5 x 5 room and expanded upon that. I reused A TON of lumber from the previous build and that saved me a bunch of $$$. Lumber is crazy expensive right now. You'll also notice, the spacing is not 16" on center. I'm not building a house and it only needs to support so much weight. With the cost of materials so high right now, it only made sense to space out the framing a bit. gmanwho made that suggestion in passing conversation - I ran with it.
Pretty sure this flower cycle is going to need to be 11 on / 13 off. Fun times. Never thought I'd be the one growing the hazes - let alone built off the infamous A5 clone. Just insane.
You can see the 5 x 5 in the back left - the 4 x 6 to the right - which is actually 4.5' x 7.5'. I'll be setting plants within a 3 x 5 foot print and letting them grow into the edges. The extra length in the room is for a shelf and dehumidifier, filter, etc - room to move around. Important.
Things are still in a quasi build mode. I need to finish up some things so I feel more comfortable about flipping this first room full of HAZE... Big thanks to Karma G for the genetic hook up, once again.
dank.Frank
I'm not nearly happy with them yet. But they are getting there. There is a long enough flower period on these plants. They'll be shaped and thinned out a couple times still. By then, they'll be nice a green and ready to rock and roll.
sturgeongeneral - how in the world did you ever manage to A.) get a hold of and then B.) decide, eh - ON THE COUGH...LOL. It happens. I've done it too. You always seem to keep a very nice selection in rotation though. I have always enjoyed watching you work.
Redrum92 - good suggestion. I just like to read. You never know who is behind the screen and how far their talents and abilities extend. One of these days, I'm going to drill Hammerhead for knowledge on chameleons. I'm really really starting to want one of those little creatures. They are so bad ass!!!
Tokerzdream - I know who you are based on those strains you talked about. Good to have you following along here at ICmag. Feel free to ask questions. Eventually, we'll kick it again. Preferably, when I have some flowers to share!!!
I never did quite post up exactly how things changed. I essentially took apart the other build and used it to frame out the new veg area. Used the old veg area to make the 5 x 5 room and expanded upon that. I reused A TON of lumber from the previous build and that saved me a bunch of $$$. Lumber is crazy expensive right now. You'll also notice, the spacing is not 16" on center. I'm not building a house and it only needs to support so much weight. With the cost of materials so high right now, it only made sense to space out the framing a bit. gmanwho made that suggestion in passing conversation - I ran with it.
Pretty sure this flower cycle is going to need to be 11 on / 13 off. Fun times. Never thought I'd be the one growing the hazes - let alone built off the infamous A5 clone. Just insane.
You can see the 5 x 5 in the back left - the 4 x 6 to the right - which is actually 4.5' x 7.5'. I'll be setting plants within a 3 x 5 foot print and letting them grow into the edges. The extra length in the room is for a shelf and dehumidifier, filter, etc - room to move around. Important.
Things are still in a quasi build mode. I need to finish up some things so I feel more comfortable about flipping this first room full of HAZE... Big thanks to Karma G for the genetic hook up, once again.
dank.Frank
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Th fc sc came to me from a guy in that area actually. Said at the time it was all over. Same guy also hooked me up with my forum cut originally. It was in the rotation for a couple cycles but then i started running stuff that moved a little better. New stuff is a lot of copycat s1s. Cereal milk, khalifa kush granddaddy pluto, e85 and some blueberry pancakes
Everything looks great as always DF. I think the quality we seek will be in something with haze in the mix.
Do you see what I see? Yes? ALL the stems on her are like this. There are actual glands as well, not just stalks. In veg. She is incredibly sticky to the touch - even when taking clones, your fingers get gummed up as if you were trimming. Just keep watching and reading.
Topsail Haze!!!dank.Frank
I agree - to an extent. It's missing in other stuff and it is certainly filling a unique gap around here these days. Takes me back to that desert island strain concept - if you could only take one.
It's not anything you currently would be growing - it's the TRUE F1 HYBRID - that when F2 opens up the entire gene pool thousands of directions. It's in part why I'm so very very excited to be working with anything A5 related. It's a rare sport phenotype that is basically as pure as we will find these days. Same way I felt about acquiring the Afghani x M10 work from @bobhemphill knowing it was built on the old '76 BOEL heritage Afghani from another ICmagger. Same way I felt about acquiring the Deep Chunk seeds.
I'm still after a lot of the EXACT same stuff I was back in 2011. Still trying to get back to where I was - where Phillthy and I were - in our projects and in our line of thinking for what we wanted to smoke. The difference is, there is A LOT more core and origin gene pools available today, oddly enough. Makes re-working somethings to fit my own personal preferences so utterly enticing and exciting.
I'm sure you understand that 100%, Hammer.
dank.Frank
Absolutely, we base our selections on what we like to smoke.. I use my memories as a kid. There were some batches that were better than what I see today.
After I added in the A5bx from Karma I got some phenos I really love. I tried some THH and some 90's oh, These did not produce anything. I made a few small seed lots with THH. I think the magic will show up in hybrids made. Some are in flower so will see what shows up. Im currently trying some Seedsman OH(in veg). Seems to be the most recommended haze. I do have some of karmas Bandaid Haze#7 x A5(so thankful for karmas kindness) ill get to.. Lots of hazes to try. Gotta be patient with these. I'll be watching yours for sure. Keep doing great work.
After I added in the A5bx from Karma I got some phenos I really love. I tried some THH and some 90's oh, These did not produce anything. I made a few small seed lots with THH. I think the magic will show up in hybrids made. Some are in flower so will see what shows up. Im currently trying some Seedsman OH(in veg). Seems to be the most recommended haze. I do have some of karmas Bandaid Haze#7 x A5(so thankful for karmas kindness) ill get to.. Lots of hazes to try. Gotta be patient with these. I'll be watching yours for sure. Keep doing great work.
oh you lost (got rid of) the bed?
interesting. i was curious about where it's value rated against your expectations. like, did the worms survive the trip? how difficult was cleaning up spills?
was top dressing all that you did to reboot? yada yada
also on the leds, have you experienced light bleaching, or problems dimming or having to raise the light to find a sweet spot?
...and
glad to have you back.
interesting. i was curious about where it's value rated against your expectations. like, did the worms survive the trip? how difficult was cleaning up spills?
was top dressing all that you did to reboot? yada yada
also on the leds, have you experienced light bleaching, or problems dimming or having to raise the light to find a sweet spot?
...and
glad to have you back.
trichrider - who said the bed was dead?!? - LOL - valid question though. But no. It will be used still. It was - designed to be mobile. The underlay rubber/plastic was attached to the bed itself, on the legs - not the walls of the room or the floor - therefore, when I pulled all the soil out of the bed, it was fairly easy to move the bed out of the room, fully intact. My plan - is to put it back in use - in the back of the 1k room. It can still hold 8 plants, the same as it was before. It'll primarily sit under a Mars Hydro SP3000 - with some additional spectrum overlap from the XB200 array. I expect the plants in the soil bed to eventually fill the roll of - my head stash plants.
However - you are wise to question this. I need soil that is READY for these plants going into flower soon. The plan, is to use to soil from the bed to fill the 8 gallon containers - and then make a whole new batch of soil - to fill the gap. Containers require a double batch of soil vs the bed, which can be amended in place. Containers, you need the pile in use and you need the next batch ready and composting for the next round of plants - as you cycle the first round out to be re-amended, the next round of plants for flower is going into a fresh batch that has been composting for around 6wks minimum, ideally.
Everything in the bed was working PERFECTLY. ZERO AT ALL WRONG WITH IT. This was the last round of FAM95 in the soil bed under 2x Mars SP3000 running at about 65% - just a reminder...hehehe. It's fun to look at is all.
But yes. I have quite a bit of soil mixing to do...a lot, actually.
The worms were locally harvested from the back yard - they - RIP - did not make it. But honestly, I never saw them making piles of castings during lights off cycles or anything anyway. I think they were likely LONG dead before the inactivity. They...composted well, apparently. I haven't found any crusty worm corpses.
There were zero spills to clean up due to the material used. FWIW - using this, was a take away from Phillthy - bathtub/shower underlay. It works. Generally, any run off just stayed there until evaporated by the environment. I think part of the goal was always to keep things in that perfect gold zone while still having wet dry cycles. Too dry and the media becomes hydrophobic and water just runs off and through it...but you obviously don't want it water logged. Watering a dry media without run off, I guess is just one of those timely arts to knowing how your plants are behaving - because of course water usage changes and varies during different parts of flower...LOL...there is always some additional layer of specificity that can be applied I suppose. I hope I'm answering you questions fully....
LED - yes. I had some bleaching on the top flowers of some of the FAM95 phenos that seemed to lean more towards the Stardawg Ix2 side of the equation. One of the things I liked about the pheno I kept is she was sensitive early and in veg - especially to being over watered - but seemed to be more forgiving in flower - even though she is a far superior plant than her siblings were. Odd how that works.
With light distances - I'm pretty solid on the light the space - vs - light the plants. I have always been a fan of stationary lights and letting the plants do what they do. I do find the more SATIVA the plant - the more I tend to want to adjust the lights and keep them close - gradually raising them daily if necessary. The reason for this is generally to control stretch. When lights got off in 12/12 - they want to get leggy. Best to keep the lights as close as possible to keep the internodes as compact as possible...
NOT THE CASE WITH LED...that is where I find the dimmers come in handy. Dimmers are the new raise and lower the lights and such. Plants not stretching like you want...dim them a touch...and the same goes with things stretching too much.
It's nice to use the dimmer for moving new cuts that are transplanted and just really getting set in new containers to. You can gradually introduce them to more intense light daily until they have good feet and are rigid in their new containers. The ability to alter lighting intensity is a huge plus - not that you couldn't dim other modern HID lights - the difference being - with LED they can be running the entire time and there is zero delay.
The BEST part of LED - zero warm up - zero down time if you turn things off to cool before firing up again. No need to shut down to adjust intensity. That is a bigger perk than you realize until you have it and then you get spoiled quick.
....and thank you. It's good to be back.
dank.Frank
However - you are wise to question this. I need soil that is READY for these plants going into flower soon. The plan, is to use to soil from the bed to fill the 8 gallon containers - and then make a whole new batch of soil - to fill the gap. Containers require a double batch of soil vs the bed, which can be amended in place. Containers, you need the pile in use and you need the next batch ready and composting for the next round of plants - as you cycle the first round out to be re-amended, the next round of plants for flower is going into a fresh batch that has been composting for around 6wks minimum, ideally.
Everything in the bed was working PERFECTLY. ZERO AT ALL WRONG WITH IT. This was the last round of FAM95 in the soil bed under 2x Mars SP3000 running at about 65% - just a reminder...hehehe. It's fun to look at is all.
But yes. I have quite a bit of soil mixing to do...a lot, actually.
The worms were locally harvested from the back yard - they - RIP - did not make it. But honestly, I never saw them making piles of castings during lights off cycles or anything anyway. I think they were likely LONG dead before the inactivity. They...composted well, apparently. I haven't found any crusty worm corpses.
There were zero spills to clean up due to the material used. FWIW - using this, was a take away from Phillthy - bathtub/shower underlay. It works. Generally, any run off just stayed there until evaporated by the environment. I think part of the goal was always to keep things in that perfect gold zone while still having wet dry cycles. Too dry and the media becomes hydrophobic and water just runs off and through it...but you obviously don't want it water logged. Watering a dry media without run off, I guess is just one of those timely arts to knowing how your plants are behaving - because of course water usage changes and varies during different parts of flower...LOL...there is always some additional layer of specificity that can be applied I suppose. I hope I'm answering you questions fully....
LED - yes. I had some bleaching on the top flowers of some of the FAM95 phenos that seemed to lean more towards the Stardawg Ix2 side of the equation. One of the things I liked about the pheno I kept is she was sensitive early and in veg - especially to being over watered - but seemed to be more forgiving in flower - even though she is a far superior plant than her siblings were. Odd how that works.
With light distances - I'm pretty solid on the light the space - vs - light the plants. I have always been a fan of stationary lights and letting the plants do what they do. I do find the more SATIVA the plant - the more I tend to want to adjust the lights and keep them close - gradually raising them daily if necessary. The reason for this is generally to control stretch. When lights got off in 12/12 - they want to get leggy. Best to keep the lights as close as possible to keep the internodes as compact as possible...
NOT THE CASE WITH LED...that is where I find the dimmers come in handy. Dimmers are the new raise and lower the lights and such. Plants not stretching like you want...dim them a touch...and the same goes with things stretching too much.
It's nice to use the dimmer for moving new cuts that are transplanted and just really getting set in new containers to. You can gradually introduce them to more intense light daily until they have good feet and are rigid in their new containers. The ability to alter lighting intensity is a huge plus - not that you couldn't dim other modern HID lights - the difference being - with LED they can be running the entire time and there is zero delay.
The BEST part of LED - zero warm up - zero down time if you turn things off to cool before firing up again. No need to shut down to adjust intensity. That is a bigger perk than you realize until you have it and then you get spoiled quick.
....and thank you. It's good to be back.
dank.Frank
Man everytime i come in here it makes me want to switch from coco back to amended soil. Soon as i get my own spot and can be closer to moderate better thats the plan. Been lookin at buying property but think i ahould wait a lil cuz it looks like the markwt bubbling, over here in cali anyway.
cant wait to see your run of the outlaw cookies! And everything else, but its a good feeling seeing something u created being grown to its full potential by the fam! As much as i love growing something i created in my own garden, seeing others find greatness in it is another level n makes it all worthwhile!
cant wait to see the cough too, im not a haze guy but that piffcon sound legit, got a homie who used to run a hydro shop in sac before shit was considered cool, back when you couldnt talk about weed in the shop, who grew hella hazes n that was some electric different type high, but shit had me kinda paranoid.
cant wait to see your run of the outlaw cookies! And everything else, but its a good feeling seeing something u created being grown to its full potential by the fam! As much as i love growing something i created in my own garden, seeing others find greatness in it is another level n makes it all worthwhile!
cant wait to see the cough too, im not a haze guy but that piffcon sound legit, got a homie who used to run a hydro shop in sac before shit was considered cool, back when you couldnt talk about weed in the shop, who grew hella hazes n that was some electric different type high, but shit had me kinda paranoid.
return of the bed! 
GET MO - I have a solid rooted cut of the GMOGG4 under the FC-E6500 as of this morning. She's been in soil 48 hours. She's ready to rip and roar now. I'll be honest - I'm beyond excited about growing her. She's stupid beautiful and quite potent - teetering just on the edge of being truly narcotic. Every time I smoked her I lost two hours of my life, not even realizing it. Such great meds. My lady tends to like plants that represent the cookie lineage for nausea. She defaults to that gene pool for such. The "Outlaw Cookies" - taking the Cookie name because there is zero question it's part of the gene pool matrix - both in terp and trich appearance - but it is wholly something different still. She is a true keeper. I hope to have her and this FAM95 cut indefinitely. Even if I find something better through breeding with her - she'll stay in the stable as a heritage mother. She's that good.
To be fair, I haven't seen a huge swath of the GMO x GG4 Bx7 gene pool - maybe there is a better pheno in that mix to be found. It's entirely possible I suppose. I do say however, good luck and happy hunting. This plant is a winner all day and if there is one better, I want to see it put side by side.
Get her in the mix when you can brother. She's oh so worthy. I'm stoked to have her present for the next cycle. I can't wait to smoke those flowers again. Head stash certified. No hype necessary. Just good pot. Flowers so good it makes me not wanna share.
Alpenglow - The soil bed is hard to beat. I got spoiled not having to mix media each cycle and just top dressing. It was much more representative of maintaining a small patch of earth and I really liked that.
The cons do exist though. I hated not being able to pull a plant out to get a good photo of it with set lighting and a proper back drop. I hated not being able to really examine individual phenos of seed plants without reaching over and molesting others. I hated as much as I also loved, the completely fixed nature of it.
Sort of why I said, I envision the bed being used for my head stash plants. I can set them and forget them and go back to bags or pots for individual new phenos of seed hunts or a few plants I really want to model as centerfolds...hehehe.
The expansion of the room - is really about one thing and one thing only - the ability to sort more seeds successfully. I need to up my clone game a bit as well still. Need to up my veg game still. Need to increase my ability to keep what I find more successfully and easily. I'm about to get into a lot of seeds.
A lot of feminized seeds as well. I either need to have my veg room set up for solid re-veg scenarios - OR - I need to have it set up for taking a massive number of clones from each plant to ensure they are backed up - because, let's be honest. It seems the weakest part in my routine by far is getting consistent and healthy clones at good strike rates. It's all environment, in my opinion. Just need to tighten up more.
dank.Frank
To be fair, I haven't seen a huge swath of the GMO x GG4 Bx7 gene pool - maybe there is a better pheno in that mix to be found. It's entirely possible I suppose. I do say however, good luck and happy hunting. This plant is a winner all day and if there is one better, I want to see it put side by side.
Get her in the mix when you can brother. She's oh so worthy. I'm stoked to have her present for the next cycle. I can't wait to smoke those flowers again. Head stash certified. No hype necessary. Just good pot. Flowers so good it makes me not wanna share.
Alpenglow - The soil bed is hard to beat. I got spoiled not having to mix media each cycle and just top dressing. It was much more representative of maintaining a small patch of earth and I really liked that.
The cons do exist though. I hated not being able to pull a plant out to get a good photo of it with set lighting and a proper back drop. I hated not being able to really examine individual phenos of seed plants without reaching over and molesting others. I hated as much as I also loved, the completely fixed nature of it.
Sort of why I said, I envision the bed being used for my head stash plants. I can set them and forget them and go back to bags or pots for individual new phenos of seed hunts or a few plants I really want to model as centerfolds...hehehe.
The expansion of the room - is really about one thing and one thing only - the ability to sort more seeds successfully. I need to up my clone game a bit as well still. Need to up my veg game still. Need to increase my ability to keep what I find more successfully and easily. I'm about to get into a lot of seeds.
A lot of feminized seeds as well. I either need to have my veg room set up for solid re-veg scenarios - OR - I need to have it set up for taking a massive number of clones from each plant to ensure they are backed up - because, let's be honest. It seems the weakest part in my routine by far is getting consistent and healthy clones at good strike rates. It's all environment, in my opinion. Just need to tighten up more.
dank.Frank
Tokerzdream
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Tokerzdream - You can likely get soil tests done at any local state funded university for a nominal fee. Can send them off. Look to your local agricultural extension office for soil sample boxes to send in, etc.
In the beginning of the thread the mix was developed in part because old mixes were drastically lacking in potassium. That was changed with the new mix I've been running in this thread. That's the 740-1110-945 NPK mix listed in the Stank Bros soil sticky - which is linked at the bottom of each of my posts, below my signature. The organic soil link.
I think the best thing I've added in this mix - would honestly be Fertoz, in place of rock sulfate or tenn. brown rock sulfate. It's a great product to get plant available silica into the root zone - and does everything that any other rock phosphate does, but better.
Potassium - in the long run, is very easy to supply. Potassium Sulfate and K-Mag. Kelp meal. And as component of countless other products. In previous mixes, I was just not giving enough. That was fixed in the mix I'm using now and it shows big time.
The only other thing I've added - would be some Mammoth P during waterings in flower. It's microbes, maaaaaaannnnnn. I really do want to maximize phosphorous uptake...
dank.Frank
In the beginning of the thread the mix was developed in part because old mixes were drastically lacking in potassium. That was changed with the new mix I've been running in this thread. That's the 740-1110-945 NPK mix listed in the Stank Bros soil sticky - which is linked at the bottom of each of my posts, below my signature. The organic soil link.
I think the best thing I've added in this mix - would honestly be Fertoz, in place of rock sulfate or tenn. brown rock sulfate. It's a great product to get plant available silica into the root zone - and does everything that any other rock phosphate does, but better.
Potassium - in the long run, is very easy to supply. Potassium Sulfate and K-Mag. Kelp meal. And as component of countless other products. In previous mixes, I was just not giving enough. That was fixed in the mix I'm using now and it shows big time.
The only other thing I've added - would be some Mammoth P during waterings in flower. It's microbes, maaaaaaannnnnn.
I really do want to maximize phosphorous uptake...dank.Frank
