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Digital Berry Bx1 outcrosses...
- Thread starter dank.frank
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I sure hope that the bubba digi makes a come back I loved the look of bodhi's blueberry bubba but he never released the line due to it being prone to pop some nanners. I also know Ograskal has made a blueberry bubba line that was some bomb so this sounds rite up my ally. those are some beefy colas for sure looks great. Damn chili B the chem4 x blue bub sounds amazing would love to see some of your epic creations hit the server fund I know I would deff swoop whatever i could. Oh and dank I like the sound of a stank bro version of blue dream you dnt really hear or see much with the bubba dutch cut how is it different from the old sog ssh cut and witch is better?
No intentions of making more Bubba x Digi - but I am holding onto a male bubba x digi for some future testing...he'll get put to work here shortly....
For what it's worth, I also have no plans to make a "blue dream" - I don't really intend to remake what is already out and about on the scene. No need for repeats.
The BDSSH - I have no experience with yet. Just getting the first round of seeds of that cross to soak next week. Chili made a few of those beans for me...fwiw.
The whole point was to outcross that male to a bunch of ladies to learn better the passed traits, and then he was lost - so it was in that sense a bit self defeating. However, now I have a bunch of really nice hybrids in very limited quantity...lol. Not really enough to even work a line off unless by dumb luck a super amazing plant were to just surface...
As far as difference between SSH cuts - maybe Chili can expand on that...I can not.
With very limited pollen left of my Digi Bx1 - and I do mean limited - I really want to focus on a blueberry OG combo - that will likely be the project where most of the pollen is used.
I know that MeltingPot made some SFV x Digi Bx1 recently and I also have Abusive x Digi Bx1 - so that goal already being some what realized I still want to hit TK and potentially Legend as well - just to see which line the Digi shines the most in, while still retaining a true OG characteristics. The Digi Bx1 male bred rather dominantly in some of it's offspring, but I think the real key is finding a male in such lines that gives way to the latent Sour Bubble Bx2 - ie Arnold - that is locked in the line. The Arnold type expressions should really be beneficial in keeping the OG profile more true to itself. Once such an OG x Arnold type male is found, it'll be taken back to the parent OG. I'll then need to hit that Bx with stored Digi Bx1 pollen - reinstating the cannabinoid and terepene profile of the Digi line more heavily. So if that isn't clear: [OG x (OG x Digi Bx1)] x Digi Bx1 - being the game plan.
So, you can see why I need to some what reserve what little pollen is left from the Digi Bx1 male to make that project possible.
That goes without saying that perhaps some magic also lies in taking a short cut by going [OG x (Bubba x Digi Bx1)] x Digi Bx1 - which is some what an easier project because the Bubba x Digi male is alive and well...no limit to his pollen - but being untested, I still have no real idea what will be passed on to the next filial generation, where as with the pure Digi Bx1 pollen that is stored, I know EXACTLY what to expect.
I suppose the only real difference is what combo keeps a more accurate representation of the OG lines - a Bubba x Digi Bx1 male - or a Arnold dominant OG x Digi Bx1 male...
Only time will tell....
dank.Frank
For what it's worth, I also have no plans to make a "blue dream" - I don't really intend to remake what is already out and about on the scene. No need for repeats.
The BDSSH - I have no experience with yet. Just getting the first round of seeds of that cross to soak next week. Chili made a few of those beans for me...fwiw.
The whole point was to outcross that male to a bunch of ladies to learn better the passed traits, and then he was lost - so it was in that sense a bit self defeating. However, now I have a bunch of really nice hybrids in very limited quantity...lol. Not really enough to even work a line off unless by dumb luck a super amazing plant were to just surface...
As far as difference between SSH cuts - maybe Chili can expand on that...I can not.
With very limited pollen left of my Digi Bx1 - and I do mean limited - I really want to focus on a blueberry OG combo - that will likely be the project where most of the pollen is used.
I know that MeltingPot made some SFV x Digi Bx1 recently and I also have Abusive x Digi Bx1 - so that goal already being some what realized I still want to hit TK and potentially Legend as well - just to see which line the Digi shines the most in, while still retaining a true OG characteristics. The Digi Bx1 male bred rather dominantly in some of it's offspring, but I think the real key is finding a male in such lines that gives way to the latent Sour Bubble Bx2 - ie Arnold - that is locked in the line. The Arnold type expressions should really be beneficial in keeping the OG profile more true to itself. Once such an OG x Arnold type male is found, it'll be taken back to the parent OG. I'll then need to hit that Bx with stored Digi Bx1 pollen - reinstating the cannabinoid and terepene profile of the Digi line more heavily. So if that isn't clear: [OG x (OG x Digi Bx1)] x Digi Bx1 - being the game plan.
So, you can see why I need to some what reserve what little pollen is left from the Digi Bx1 male to make that project possible.
That goes without saying that perhaps some magic also lies in taking a short cut by going [OG x (Bubba x Digi Bx1)] x Digi Bx1 - which is some what an easier project because the Bubba x Digi male is alive and well...no limit to his pollen - but being untested, I still have no real idea what will be passed on to the next filial generation, where as with the pure Digi Bx1 pollen that is stored, I know EXACTLY what to expect.
I suppose the only real difference is what combo keeps a more accurate representation of the OG lines - a Bubba x Digi Bx1 male - or a Arnold dominant OG x Digi Bx1 male...
Only time will tell....
dank.Frank
So there is no one that still has the digi bx1 male? Also have thought about looking through the Carolina blue x digiberry bx1 for a male that could pass on the Bb traits you are looking to lock in or using the cb x db bx1 to back cross to the original digi pollen you have left and search for a male in that cross that has what your looking for. I know you said you still have digi bx2's and ix 1's to sort through for another amazing male. I just thought that you might be able to find a nice Arnold male in the cb x db bx1 kinda like the sour bubbel pheno scrap found in his cb x db bx1 that finished in 49 days ? I really like the sound of the BB og one of my most wanted strains is the bb underdawg I love that girl she is stunning. I was hoping that if I could find a nice male or female in the cb x db I could cross it to stardawg and hopefully produce something similar or even use the new pestilence x snow lotus I got from bodhi to run and use that with the cb x db to find something similar since his snow lotus male only passes on resin structure and yield while allowing the female traits to shine through. I know you said that making f2's with the cb x db could be problematic but would using it in f1's or bx's promote the same problem you think could happen or would it be more stable in f1's or bx1's than in the f2's . I still plan on making f2's to look through but I'll be much more selective since you warned us of the potential problems.
Well, the CB x DB it really seems to be a 50/50 blend of nearly all the traits from both parents. In the F2's naturally you unlock the super extreme expressions...
The thing is, it took me 3 years to find the first Digi Bx1 male that bred the way I really wanted. So to go back down the road to find another Blueberry male still feels a bit daunting right now, to be honest. It is an ever present priority in my mind to find a great Digi male again, but I guess I'm just more worried about using that pollen on projects I had always wanted to do...before it gets too old and loses it's viability.
The latent Sour Bubble expression is found in EVERY seed line made from that Digi Bx1 male. It surfaces in about 1 out of every 20-25 seeds on a loose average - and 9/10 times the Arnold type expression is a male. The oddity in Scrappy's plant is that it really didn't show the normal Arnold traits in growth patterns - but some how flowered remarkably quick and retained a bit of a terepene twist - I suppose that is just how the Arnold expressed itself in a female - which honestly, is the first time I've seen such. The oddity is that it was a female....NOT so much that the Sour Bubble expression surfaced.
If looking to pass on something from the Carolina Blue x Digi line from the male - I have a very ideal type plant in my mind. Actually, for both female and male plants, in regards to what is a keeper:
Digi's heavy double serrations:
Attached to a more DJ Blueberry leaf shape coming from the Carolina Blue:
So if you find that more spread out bulbous leaf with heavy double serrations I'd really become excited, as that is what I'd consider the potential IDEAL pheno in the line...
dank.Frank
The thing is, it took me 3 years to find the first Digi Bx1 male that bred the way I really wanted. So to go back down the road to find another Blueberry male still feels a bit daunting right now, to be honest. It is an ever present priority in my mind to find a great Digi male again, but I guess I'm just more worried about using that pollen on projects I had always wanted to do...before it gets too old and loses it's viability.
The latent Sour Bubble expression is found in EVERY seed line made from that Digi Bx1 male. It surfaces in about 1 out of every 20-25 seeds on a loose average - and 9/10 times the Arnold type expression is a male. The oddity in Scrappy's plant is that it really didn't show the normal Arnold traits in growth patterns - but some how flowered remarkably quick and retained a bit of a terepene twist - I suppose that is just how the Arnold expressed itself in a female - which honestly, is the first time I've seen such. The oddity is that it was a female....NOT so much that the Sour Bubble expression surfaced.
If looking to pass on something from the Carolina Blue x Digi line from the male - I have a very ideal type plant in my mind. Actually, for both female and male plants, in regards to what is a keeper:
Digi's heavy double serrations:
Attached to a more DJ Blueberry leaf shape coming from the Carolina Blue:
So if you find that more spread out bulbous leaf with heavy double serrations I'd really become excited, as that is what I'd consider the potential IDEAL pheno in the line...
dank.Frank
I'm trying to save what I have till I've puffed a few of these various OG's...rather than simply going by the status quo of what is what. In my mind I am assuming that perhaps Legend will be the ticket, simply because from what I am told, it is more potent than SFV, and has a super lemon flavor...which you know how I get about the lemon/blue pairings and the potential I feel they have...lol.
I trust your judgement and rather than saying - use it this way - I know when you find the RIGHT plant - you'll jump on it. Do your thing and use it as you see fit bro. You personally may not even desire to dump it on an OG - you may rather hit AJ s1 or Chem D or something along those lines - your call, brother!!
dank.Frank
I trust your judgement and rather than saying - use it this way - I know when you find the RIGHT plant - you'll jump on it. Do your thing and use it as you see fit bro. You personally may not even desire to dump it on an OG - you may rather hit AJ s1 or Chem D or something along those lines - your call, brother!!
dank.Frank
Ok I understand I just thought that the cb x db could have the potential to produce an even better male than the digi bx1 because like you said has the traits of both parents. But I understand wanting to use the pollen you already have from the keeper male that you put so much work into finding so I get not wanting to do the same thing again and working in a new direction exploring new and potential awesome combinations. We deff share a similar taste when it comes to genetics and hybrids we'd like to work with and make. I guess I was really asking how you think the cb x db would perform in out crosses and what I could expect since you have done so much work with the parents but I guess you really don't know until you work the line yourself. I have quite a few crosses planned if I can find a worthy male. Thank you for giving me an idea of what a keeper male should look like. Also for some reason I though chili had a cut of your male as well or did he just have a male he found himself since he made the bx1's. Phillthy I deff think the digi crossed to your aj s1 would be killer but you have soo many amazing genetics you could potentially use so I'm sure its not gonna be easy choosing what to use. Do you plan on hitting the Carolina blue with some of the sscdh super pollen that would be fun to sort through some of those beans? Any way thanks dank frank for the advice hopefully I can find a male that has the traits you have described in the 20 seeds I have to look through if I do I most deff will have a cut with your name on it as well as phillthy's .
I certainly haven't excluded the CB x DB line for the possibility of a male - and kept just shy of 100 seeds here to allow for that possibility...and to Bx the Carolina Blue clone itself. If I could make a true representation of her that comes out a touch more stable, that'd really make me happy. She's a tough clone to keep thanks to the bit of Sweet Tooth in her - blasted auto flower trait sucks. Even in the first outcross to Digi Bx1 that trait vanished, but who knows if it resurfaces in a Bx. The CB x DB line produces nearly Flo type mutants, that for the most part are so twisted they don't even technically grow...at least not with any standard of normality.
Just a matter of having the room to dive head first into such a project again. I don't want to be sprouting 5 here and 5 there when I go down that road seriously again - much rather tackle such things 50 at a time...and really make head way. That would also allow me to see plant specific variances much easier than trying to play by memory. Not to mention, who is to say it wouldn't be the 5 or 6 male found and have it be dismissed thinking something better was yet to be found. I guess it is fair to say my focus just isn't there right now to truly make such a project reach its potential....
When I find the right plant, I'm going to run mono-crop for a stint and get some debts taken care of and then eventually rebuild the room to make it what it should be....at which point, I can begin to hunt a new blue male again, when I know no prior obligations stand in the way of being able to truly hobby with no clouds hanging over me...
All about a time and a place, ya know...just not there yet.
dank.Frank
Just a matter of having the room to dive head first into such a project again. I don't want to be sprouting 5 here and 5 there when I go down that road seriously again - much rather tackle such things 50 at a time...and really make head way. That would also allow me to see plant specific variances much easier than trying to play by memory. Not to mention, who is to say it wouldn't be the 5 or 6 male found and have it be dismissed thinking something better was yet to be found. I guess it is fair to say my focus just isn't there right now to truly make such a project reach its potential....
When I find the right plant, I'm going to run mono-crop for a stint and get some debts taken care of and then eventually rebuild the room to make it what it should be....at which point, I can begin to hunt a new blue male again, when I know no prior obligations stand in the way of being able to truly hobby with no clouds hanging over me...
All about a time and a place, ya know...just not there yet.
dank.Frank
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BluEyeDevil
Hey..hows it going?
Day 48 12/12..
Have a great day..
Day 48 12/12..
Have a great day..
Looking uber dank right there, brother! And @ 7 wks - those ladies have a bit more time to go - at least another 10-14 days - they aren't going to do anything but get frostier!!! Probably chunkier as well - and I'm sure the smells will thicken up more as they ripen...
Bravo, Bravo!!!
dank.Frank
Bravo, Bravo!!!
dank.Frank
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BluEyeDevil
Thanks DF..
She is looking very nice.I was thinking the same on the # of days,around 65 or so.
Grabbed a seed off one of the branches just to seehow they were coming along..
She is looking very nice.I was thinking the same on the # of days,around 65 or so.
Grabbed a seed off one of the branches just to seehow they were coming along..
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BluEyeDevil
Hi..I hope all is well with our icmag community..
A few shots of bubbadigi @ day 54..
Have a groovy day....
Thanks..
A few shots of bubbadigi @ day 54..
Have a groovy day..
..Thanks..
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BluEyeDevil
Theres an echo in here..
Day 60..12/12..
peace be with us..
Day 60..12/12..
peace be with us..
midwestdensies
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amazing work. ive followed for a little while and the digi berry bx sounds amazing. any releases coming anytime?
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BluEyeDevil
If the thunder don't get ya then the lighting will..
thanks man....oh yeah..cheese it ma'am..ill brain ya..
thanks man....oh yeah..cheese it ma'am..ill brain ya..
Well, looks like BED has made his exit and taken his pics with him...lol. Well, it was a great showing, much appreciated brother! Hope you enjoy those ladies!!
And know for some pics from our sponsor...hehehe
the White x Digi Bx1 aka "White Noise"
I'm finding this plant very hard, almost impossible to get a good photo of. I'm not sure why, but I never seem to get the right angle or look at the plant through the lens. Having a hard time showing what I want feel I am seeing.
This expression was a pain to grow. Threw balls the first 3 week of flower - but I know I have light leaks, so not really to unexpected. Has been feeding really heavy from the soil, but has shown tip burn any time I've tried to push her with guano teas. Even as she fades hard like she is, she still shows tip burn if pushed, so I know she is going to finish up real fast here in the next couple of weeks. I expect he to be done around 60 days. Real heavy berry smells masked my hash and generic sweetness. I think with a cure, this plant would smoke pretty much full on berry in the flavor profile. (notice the heavy double serrations on the yellowing leaf - should give you and idea how dominant the Digi Bx1 is in this particular pheno)
dank.Frank
And know for some pics from our sponsor...hehehe
the White x Digi Bx1 aka "White Noise"
I'm finding this plant very hard, almost impossible to get a good photo of. I'm not sure why, but I never seem to get the right angle or look at the plant through the lens. Having a hard time showing what I want feel I am seeing.
This expression was a pain to grow. Threw balls the first 3 week of flower - but I know I have light leaks, so not really to unexpected. Has been feeding really heavy from the soil, but has shown tip burn any time I've tried to push her with guano teas. Even as she fades hard like she is, she still shows tip burn if pushed, so I know she is going to finish up real fast here in the next couple of weeks. I expect he to be done around 60 days. Real heavy berry smells masked my hash and generic sweetness. I think with a cure, this plant would smoke pretty much full on berry in the flavor profile. (notice the heavy double serrations on the yellowing leaf - should give you and idea how dominant the Digi Bx1 is in this particular pheno)
dank.Frank
looks really nice. im glad you got a fruity one.. the one i had was actually almost flavorless. I knew there would be some berry phenos though. rock on df
