Differences of Indica and Sativa - A RealTime Photo Essay

[Ronley]

Hawain Grower , great thread, its nice to see the differences grown out and clearly documented.

Here are some pictures of Oaxacan Sativa, But its momma was crossed with Indica, so now its not a pure O.S-
I was not very impressed with the Oaxacan, It was pretty mild, and everyone that I gave it to to smoke complained that its not strong.
It got crossed with a Indica, and I am waiting to see how "strong" it will be now, I cut off some ready buds, and they are presently curing.

You can see how see how the leaves are very narrow.
Its buds give of a deep Piney smell.

 

[dHazed]

Bummer about the Oaxacan as I have 40 seeds of that by Plant Technologies from SD. Maybe I'll cross it to a pure power plant or SSH. Anyway I will attempt to continue the debate. I say that although strains do acclimatize and change some characteristics as a result of external factors, the idea that you can grow outdoors on an Island and not have stray pollinations occur is ridiculous. Indicas were brought to the islands in the 70's. Over the past 30 years the amount of growers on the islands increased then declined but people were still growing outside with Indicas and these Indicas and Indy hybrids threw pollen and contaminated alot of the "Pure Landrace Hawaiians." Now when the amount of seeds being started goes from 1000's to 10's it does not take long for a pure sativa project to become indy dominated after a few generations by the grower selecting for tight internodes or wide leaves or whatever. Sadly, one mistake when you start a few seeds can result in the loss of genetics forever. And I'am sure you made a mistake HawaiianGrown in the past 25 years.

 

[Ronley]

Bummer about the Oaxacan as I have 40 seeds of that by Plant Technologies from SD. Maybe I'll cross it to a pure power plant or SSH.

Even after crossing with an indica, its smoke is still mild. Sort of like the feeling of sharing a joint of strong weed with a lot of people, but only getting 2 puffs because the joint got finished somewhere by the 4th person,
Or being stonned, but not quite. Anyway this Stone lasts for a short time, with a relaxing feel. but there is no deep thinking with philosophy brillience feeling.

Perhaps it needs to cure longer. Or alot more needs to be smoked.

 

[Guest]

Thanks People.! I keep learning from so many !
Cheers

 

[Guest]

HG thanx for sharing good reading.. Here is a lil pic of my Hawaiian.. Now i cant get all technical like you all but she is 4 days into 12/12. And, I will smoke her when she is done.. How about those traits.. ... peace.. stop in

Sack's First Outdoor Grow
New picz are up LQQK see... 4th day 12/12

my lil hawaiian specimen..


her top
peace...

sack :friends:

 

[Guest]

Good Show sackoweed!! Thats what we like to hear.
Simple yet oh so true.
peace

 

[HawaiianGrown]

Hana Ho

Hana Ho

Aloha,


The Hawaiian Haze has been chopped and is in regrow mode.

Some friends from New Zealand demanded the bud after smelling on the vine, and I chose to comply. Hell, they was ready enough.

The regrow has too much green, but that is not really a problem.














The Hawaiian Indica is a purple indica. See how it differs from the straight indica. There is some good sticky and oh-so-sweet bud in that jungle o' leaf.










The Sativa is two months from harvest. I have to go and get a shot of her later.

Aloha,


(Pink Floyd got interrupted by some talking heads, what a waste.)

 

[Sleepy]

Beautiful pictures!!

you are really making me jealous...

nice show you got goin' on, thank you for sharing!!

 

[HawaiianGrown]

Thread almost pau

Thread almost pau

Aloha,

OK.

Howzit?

Here are some shots to remind all of the big diff in Indica and Sativa --

Time to Maturity


The Haze was a real early girl. So Good she's in regrow for clones and possible motherhood.







The HawaiianGrown Indica is taking an extra week like a late baby.

She will be a pleasure to cure out.





























The Sativa is no where near ready, but will be sweet and worth the wait.

 

[HawaiianGrown]

Purple Hairs

Purple Hairs

Aloha,


Purple Stems.....

Purple Hairs too.

But no purple bracts.


Weird, Yeah?

HawaiianGrown Purple Indica

 

[Guest]

Amazing. How's it goin guys? Contemplating a return to the dam next year.

The show really puts things in perspective for me as an inexperienced/hobby/self sufficient cab grower.

 

[Guest]

Those are very nice looking plants HG!!
I smoked some Hawaiian that a buddy in Ohio had mailed to him by HIS friend in HI about 15-20 yrs ago (coulda been some of yours ). It was some of the tastiest bud I've smoked!

Meaning no offence, but... It seems to me that the differences between pure Indica and Sativa are more profound than these pics illustrate. Must be awfully confusing to the newbies. I don't mean that your pics are falsely represented HG, and I feel that the intention of this thread is a noble one... I'm sure that your pics ARE representative of HAWAIIAN grown Indica and Sativa.

For the purpose of educating less experienced growers though, Imo, It would be better to see the pictorial comparison of say...for example... Afghani and Durban Poison to illustrate the differences? Any volunteers? :wink: Just my MG

 

[SPDemon420]

awesome idea. I'll definitely keep checking it out.

 

[HawaiianGrown]

Re; stray pollinations

Re; stray pollinations

Aloha Dazed (and confused?),

I agree that some big island growers would not check their males and then accidentily pollinate someone else's plants, but those people were commercial farmers and the females' owners were just pissed that the sensi got seeded.

Other non-commercial, non-Big Island growers selectively pollinate only marked buds with known breeding males. Any other method is rejected.

So in four words ---

Indica, Sativa, Haze (and now Diesel). Those are my four species if you will. I have found these four words to be very able to describe so many features of the herb, including being able to sum up height, yield, smell, sun-leaf, bud structure and maturation rate.

Indica- for speed and easy trimming (and sweetness in Hawaii)

Sativa - for complicated flavour, good yield and long seasons

Haze - for the one and only haze taste

Diesel - for the stank and appearance

 

[guest123]

Those are very nice looking plants HG!!
I smoked some Hawaiian that a buddy in Ohio had mailed to him by HIS friend in HI about 15-20 yrs ago (coulda been some of yours ). It was some of the tastiest bud I've smoked!

Meaning no offence, but... It seems to me that the differences between pure Indica and Sativa are more profound than these pics illustrate. Must be awfully confusing to the newbies. I don't mean that your pics are falsely represented HG, and I feel that the intention of this thread is a noble one... I'm sure that your pics ARE representative of HAWAIIAN grown Indica and Sativa.

For the purpose of educating less experienced growers though, Imo, It would be better to see the pictorial comparison of say...for example... Afghani and Durban Poison to illustrate the differences? Any volunteers? :wink: Just my MG

ill toss those in for ya , have both grown outdoors in the tropics here , the differences are more profound than in hawaii , id be interested to see how theyd grow there , whether the acclimatisation would change them ?? give me a few tics to find the pics ...

 

[guest123]

i hope you dont mind hawaiin , just nice to see the difference from another country , i think i live a bit closer to the equator , not sure if that makes any diff or not .... but here is a pic of an indica ive grown outdoor here , at the back you can just see the leaves of a mango sativa , its a pure equatorial sativa , will not grow indoors successfully , and will not bud in our winter successfully . shes a long season gal ...
the second picture is of the mango sativa ,
the third is a african swazi bud
the final is the afghani bud ..

 

[Guest]

Nice pics wally

 

[Guest]

Yeah Wally....that's what I'm talkin' about! Very nice examples..Thank you!

 

[HawaiianGrown]

Sativa

Sativa

Aloha,


Here is a pic of the late season Sativa.


nothing at all like the already harvested Indica nor the Haze.

probably having root bug problems too.

 

[dHazed]

Thanks for the info. about the commercial farmers lack of care. This is what I have attempted to address. Selective pollination is obviously the only way to effectively breed to a desired result. After thinking further however breeders can insure the genetic makeup of their outdoor plants by pollinating select branches then if any other branches come up seeded then you know stray pollen was present (Duh!). Up until a minute ago I could never figure how to insure the seeds you have produced outside came from both intended parents. Thanks for the assistance in this epiphany Hawaiian. I have never made seeds outside because of my fear of stray pollination but I will re-think this now. Good work! Keep it up Bruddah!