Defoliation: Hi-Yield Technique?

[Bassy59]

tbh man everyone has there own points and opinions. but you wont post pics or anything and theres plenty of people who dont post pics because their grows are shit.

im wondering to all you defoiliators here, do you hit a gram per watt (or more) using your technique? (just asking)

I have posted pics, I havent hid anything. I got just slightly OVER 1 GPW last grow with THREE WEEKS OF A FUCKED UP LIGHT. THREE WEEKS of crap light in early flower!

Now I ask you, have you read this ENTIRE fucking thread and seen the posts where people pulled 14oz PLUS from their plant on NUMEROUS grows? One poster pulled 19oz from his!

If I recall correctly, the OP of this thread has recorded over 1.2 GPW FOR YEARS!

If I come in next week at OVER 1 GPW (roughly when I should chop), knowing full well that I screwed them up by letting them be too tall and couldnt get width of light, will you then stfu about saying it is bad for the plants and doesnt work?

It may not be something you choose to do. And your reasons don't matter. That's your choice.

But in the face of evidence from COUNTLESS others who have shown their own personal results and experience, to DENY that it works is total unadulterated IGNORANCE. If you still claim this DOESNT work, I here am in fact calling you an ignorant, illiterate.

The funny thing about it is I as a grower of only 1 year of experience only, and 6 months or so of earnestly attempting this, have surpassed the results of many, simply because I am willing to learn from the experience of others.

Might want to try it some day.

 

[d3cryption]

I have posted pics, I havent hid anything. I got just slightly OVER 1 GPW last grow with THREE WEEKS OF A FUCKED UP LIGHT. THREE WEEKS of crap light in early flower!

Now I ask you, have you read this ENTIRE fucking thread and seen the posts where people pulled 14oz PLUS from their plant on NUMEROUS grows? One poster pulled 19oz from his!

If I recall correctly, the OP of this thread has recorded over 1.2 GPW FOR YEARS!

If I come in next week at OVER 1 GPW (roughly when I should chop), knowing full well that I screwed them up by letting them be too tall and couldnt get width of light, will you then stfu about saying it is bad for the plants and doesnt work?

It may not be something you choose to do. And your reasons don't matter. That's your choice.

But in the face of evidence from COUNTLESS others who have shown their own personal results and experience, to DENY that it works is total unadulterated IGNORANCE. If you still claim this DOESNT work, I here am in fact calling you an ignorant, illiterate.

The funny thing about it is I as a grower of only 1 year of experience only, and 6 months or so of earnestly attempting this, have surpassed the results of many, simply because I am willing to learn from the experience of others.

Might want to try it some day.

 

[siftedunity]

I have posted pics, I havent hid anything. I got just slightly OVER 1 GPW last grow with THREE WEEKS OF A FUCKED UP LIGHT. THREE WEEKS of crap light in early flower!

Now I ask you, have you read this ENTIRE fucking thread and seen the posts where people pulled 14oz PLUS from their plant on NUMEROUS grows? One poster pulled 19oz from his!

If I recall correctly, the OP of this thread has recorded over 1.2 GPW FOR YEARS!

If I come in next week at OVER 1 GPW (roughly when I should chop), knowing full well that I screwed them up by letting them be too tall and couldnt get width of light, will you then stfu about saying it is bad for the plants and doesnt work?

It may not be something you choose to do. And your reasons don't matter. That's your choice.

But in the face of evidence from COUNTLESS others who have shown their own personal results and experience, to DENY that it works is total unadulterated IGNORANCE. If you still claim this DOESNT work, I here am in fact calling you an ignorant, illiterate.

The funny thing about it is I as a grower of only 1 year of experience only, and 6 months or so of earnestly attempting this, have surpassed the results of many, simply because I am willing to learn from the experience of others.

Might want to try it some day.

man if i didnt learn from others and take advise, i wouldnt do half as well as i have from the start. i appreciate anyones helps here or anywhere as my friends and people who know me here can vouch for.
im not too sure why you qouted me on that post and tryed to belittle me as i wasnt being horrible to anyone in that post atall.

all my opinion is that it doesnt look good on paper from a scientific aspect, ive not read though all 200+ pages sorry about that!
im glad people have pulled 14 oz off a plant but do you know if they could have yielded more if they didnt defoliate? who knows. and tbh honest its pretty well known that the biggest indoor grows are generally big bucket dwc systems like heaths and double d, where they yield like 5lb per plant etc.

good you have done good for yourself in a year and half well done, but dont come dissing me for what advise i take and who i take it from when ive been growing many years longer man. im constanly learning like you should be lol

peace

 

[DrFever]

lol you're right, my grows could be shit. I won't post for my own piece of mind since I am in a non-legal state. (hopefully for not too much longer) So yes, you have no way of seeing pictures of my own grow, so you never can tell.

It doesn't matter about me though, this isn't my thread. The OP posted pictures and discussed the method in detail. Many more beyond that have posted failures, and successes. The problem is, the OP refuses to post up in this thread because of ppl like the good Dr here and many many more who want to say that this tech doesn't work because THEY failed at it. Well I didn't really get good at it at first either, but I kept at it until I got a feel for it and now I know that it works... for me, in my garden.

Posting GPW doesn't mean anything. There are people who grow .4 up to 2 using the same systems. I could easily say I hit 1.5gpw but even if I did the nay sayers would call bullshit. There is no way to prove or disprove anything on an online forum such as this. Its a place for ppl to share their own success and failure with others. Thats why it gets under my skin when ppl try and preach about things they haven't experienced for them self, its ludicrous really. If you don't think something will work, then don't try it, but don't say something doesn't work just because YOU can't make it work.

But to answer your question, I'm at a point now where I hover around .9 gpw. However, if I monocropped my biggest producer I have no doubt that I would get pretty far past 1. But I like a variety..

i like your first sentence if i was in a med state cause i can guarantee you if some so called legit grower called FBI AND DEA said come over check out my grow they wouldn't be running they be in jail cause as long as Feds say it illegal then its illegal in any state just look at cali
and as for the op
Last Activity: 05-16-2012 06:42 PM this is first year horticulture St3ve i don;t have experience much RIGHT its not like i don't have inventory 10 green houses and anual income from a variety of plants 10 professional horticulturalists on payroll.
so you think i wouldn't know anything about gardening lol
I didn't come on this thread to start fighting but here
MJ is a Annuallants that perform their entire life cycle from seed to flower Annual Plains Coreopsis
to seed within a single growing season. All roots, stems and leaves of the plant die annually. Only the dormant seed bridges the gap between one generation and the next.
So there really is no prunning / or defoilating needed

Peranials : Plants that persist for many growing seasons. Generally the top portion of the plant dies back each winter and regrows the following spring

Perennial Purple Coneflower
from the same root system (e.g. Purple Coneflower). Many perennial plants do keep their leaves year round and offer attractive borders and groundcover (e.g. Tickseed, Shasta and Ox-Eyed Daisy). NOTE: WHEN STARTING PERENNIAL PLANTS FROM SEED, BLOOMS WILL BE OBSERVED IN EITHER THE SPRING OR SUMMER OF THE SECOND YEAR AND EACH YEAR THEREAFTER
These types of plants need pruning normally early oct to mid

Biennials - Plants which require two years to complete their life cycle.

Biennial Foxglove
First season growth results in a small rosette of leaves near the soil surface. During the second season's growth stem elongation, flowering and seed formation occur followed by the entire plant's death.



PS: Steve wait i ordered 2 superB trailers of soil should be here next week my soil recipe , 10 k worth of soil I'll show u pics cheers bud

 

[siftedunity]

i like your first sentence if i was in a med state cause i can guarantee you if some so called legit grower called FBI AND DEA said come over check out my grow they wouldn't be running they be in jail cause as long as Feds say it illegal then its illegal in any state just look at cali
and as for the op
Last Activity: 05-16-2012 06:42 PM this is first year horticulture St3ve i don;t have experience much RIGHT its not like i don't have inventory 10 green houses and anual income from a variety of plants 10 professional horticulturalists on payroll.
so you think i wouldn't know anything about gardening lol
I didn't come on this thread to start fighting but here
MJ is a Annuallants that perform their entire life cycle from seed to flower Annual Plains Coreopsis
to seed within a single growing season. All roots, stems and leaves of the plant die annually. Only the dormant seed bridges the gap between one generation and the next.
So there really is no prunning / or defoilating needed

Peranials : Plants that persist for many growing seasons. Generally the top portion of the plant dies back each winter and regrows the following spring

Perennial Purple Coneflower
from the same root system (e.g. Purple Coneflower). Many perennial plants do keep their leaves year round and offer attractive borders and groundcover (e.g. Tickseed, Shasta and Ox-Eyed Daisy). NOTE: WHEN STARTING PERENNIAL PLANTS FROM SEED, BLOOMS WILL BE OBSERVED IN EITHER THE SPRING OR SUMMER OF THE SECOND YEAR AND EACH YEAR THEREAFTER
These types of plants need pruning normally early oct to mid

Biennials - Plants which require two years to complete their life cycle.

Biennial Foxglove
First season growth results in a small rosette of leaves near the soil surface. During the second season's growth stem elongation, flowering and seed formation occur followed by the entire plant's death.



PS: Steve wait i ordered 2 superB trailers of soil should be here next week my soil recipe , 10 k worth of soil I'll show u pics cheers bud

nice pics..

 

[siftedunity]

i like your first sentence if i was in a med state cause i can guarantee you if some so called legit grower called FBI AND DEA said come over check out my grow they wouldn't be running they be in jail cause as long as Feds say it illegal then its illegal in any state just look at cali
and as for the op
Last Activity: 05-16-2012 06:42 PM this is first year horticulture St3ve i don;t have experience much RIGHT its not like i don't have inventory 10 green houses and anual income from a variety of plants 10 professional horticulturalists on payroll.
so you think i wouldn't know anything about gardening lol
I didn't come on this thread to start fighting but here
MJ is a Annuallants that perform their entire life cycle from seed to flower Annual Plains Coreopsis
to seed within a single growing season. All roots, stems and leaves of the plant die annually. Only the dormant seed bridges the gap between one generation and the next.
So there really is no prunning / or defoilating needed

Peranials : Plants that persist for many growing seasons. Generally the top portion of the plant dies back each winter and regrows the following spring

Perennial Purple Coneflower
from the same root system (e.g. Purple Coneflower). Many perennial plants do keep their leaves year round and offer attractive borders and groundcover (e.g. Tickseed, Shasta and Ox-Eyed Daisy). NOTE: WHEN STARTING PERENNIAL PLANTS FROM SEED, BLOOMS WILL BE OBSERVED IN EITHER THE SPRING OR SUMMER OF THE SECOND YEAR AND EACH YEAR THEREAFTER
These types of plants need pruning normally early oct to mid

Biennials - Plants which require two years to complete their life cycle.

Biennial Foxglove
First season growth results in a small rosette of leaves near the soil surface. During the second season's growth stem elongation, flowering and seed formation occur followed by the entire plant's death.



PS: Steve wait i ordered 2 superB trailers of soil should be here next week my soil recipe , 10 k worth of soil I'll show u pics cheers bud

double post

 

[Bassy59]

all my opinion is that it doesnt look good on paper from a scientific aspect, ive not read though all 200+ pages sorry about that!
im glad people have pulled 14 oz off a plant but do you know if they could have yielded more if they didnt defoliate?

Had you read the thread you would have seen these were growers that ALREADY had consistent grows and ran same strains over and over and had INCREASED yields from this technique.

Just like the op has seen using this technique over and over.

 

[St3ve]

i like your first sentence if i was in a med state cause i can guarantee you if some so called legit grower called FBI AND DEA said come over check out my grow they wouldn't be running they be in jail cause as long as Feds say it illegal then its illegal in any state just look at cali
and as for the op
Last Activity: 05-16-2012 06:42 PM this is first year horticulture St3ve i don;t have experience much RIGHT its not like i don't have inventory 10 green houses and anual income from a variety of plants 10 professional horticulturalists on payroll.
so you think i wouldn't know anything about gardening lol
I didn't come on this thread to start fighting but here
MJ is a Annuallants that perform their entire life cycle from seed to flower Annual Plains Coreopsis
to seed within a single growing season. All roots, stems and leaves of the plant die annually. Only the dormant seed bridges the gap between one generation and the next.
So there really is no prunning / or defoilating needed

Peranials : Plants that persist for many growing seasons. Generally the top portion of the plant dies back each winter and regrows the following spring

Perennial Purple Coneflower
from the same root system (e.g. Purple Coneflower). Many perennial plants do keep their leaves year round and offer attractive borders and groundcover (e.g. Tickseed, Shasta and Ox-Eyed Daisy). NOTE: WHEN STARTING PERENNIAL PLANTS FROM SEED, BLOOMS WILL BE OBSERVED IN EITHER THE SPRING OR SUMMER OF THE SECOND YEAR AND EACH YEAR THEREAFTER
These types of plants need pruning normally early oct to mid

Biennials - Plants which require two years to complete their life cycle.

Biennial Foxglove
First season growth results in a small rosette of leaves near the soil surface. During the second season's growth stem elongation, flowering and seed formation occur followed by the entire plant's death.



PS: Steve wait i ordered 2 superB trailers of soil should be here next week my soil recipe , 10 k worth of soil I'll show u pics cheers bud

I'm not sure what to make of your post. Were you saying that YOU are a first year grower or I am? I at no time said that you were a novice grower.. in fact, I said the opposite. I said that you are probably a better grower than me? I see that you are onto a new science kick though.

And man, you are severely missing the point. No one said you can't grow a lot of bud dude. Showing us pics of your awesome job is going to do what? Are you going to prove to us that you can grow nice bud without this technique? Of course you can.. you dont NEED to do this to grow nice bud, you don't need to LST like you do to grow nice bud either. These are all just different techniques that if done properly can increase yield.

And not to poke holes in your new "annual" argument, but cannabis will grow for many years. I've had mother plants that lived for a few years before, then I budded them, and then re-vegged to bud again.

Continuing to show us your nice bud pictures doesn't change the fact that we all pull better numbers with proper defoliation.


Maybe this is just an difference of opinion of quality bud. I have a question:
What if I showed you two five gallon buckets full of dried bud from the same strain and grown in the same room. One bucket has 12oz of bud colas only, and the other bucket had 14oz of nothing but golf ball nugs of dense bud. If upon inspection the buds look the same, and if they were both the same price, which would you buy?


BTW where are your buddies Heath and Jorge?

 

[DrFever]

I'm not sure what to make of your post. Were you saying that YOU are a first year grower or I am? I at no time said that you were a novice grower.. in fact, I said the opposite. I said that you are probably a better grower than me? I see that you are onto a new science kick though.

And man, you are severely missing the point. No one said you can't grow a lot of bud dude. Showing us pics of your awesome job is going to do what? Are you going to prove to us that you can grow nice bud without this technique? Of course you can.. you dont NEED to do this to grow nice bud, you don't need to LST like you do to grow nice bud either. These are all just different techniques that if done properly can increase yield.

And not to poke holes in your new "annual" argument, but cannabis will grow for many years. I've had mother plants that lived for a few years before, then I budded them, and then re-vegged to bud again.

Continuing to show us your nice bud pictures doesn't change the fact that we all pull better numbers with proper defoliation.


Maybe this is just an difference of opinion of quality bud. I have a question:
What if I showed you two five gallon buckets full of dried bud from the same strain and grown in the same room. One bucket has 12oz of bud colas only, and the other bucket had 14oz of nothing but golf ball nugs of dense bud. If upon inspection the buds look the same, and if they were both the same price, which would you buy?


BTW where are your buddies Heath and Jorge?

hmm better numbers now to be honest truthfully most of those pictures i have seen have bin more to the sativa side which gives you thinner leafs etc
This thread reminds me of them dummy pills doctors give out to pill popping junkies yup doctor gives them these useless pills and they feel better right away ) there are 1000's of posts i have seen on ICM where growers defoiled and lost yields now if your growing for your self and every piece of shake matters then by all means skin your plants but Scientifically, proven it is wrong to do this. I am not going to sit here banging my head hahaha giver shit folks skin your plant alive like i really give a fck really
for me its about yield and consistency

Continuing to show us your nice bud pictures doesn't change the fact that we all pull better numbers with proper defoliation.

now ^^^ is one of the funniest things i herd again scroll around IC , and see real yields that are comming out sure the hell not from skinning a plant lmao

What if I showed you two five gallon buckets full of dried bud from the same strain and grown in the same room. One bucket has 12oz of bud colas only, and the other bucket had 14oz of nothing but golf ball nugs of dense bud. If upon inspection the buds look the same, and if they were both the same price, which would you buy?

could you please ^^^ show us two 5 gallon buckets then may-be i will show you oh hell i will show you a 43 gallon bucket full of consistent sized buds but for now here 1 plant trim i think i was like a 0z under 2 pounds 36 x 72 screen and from not skinning a plant
anyways St3vo you sound like them guys that like to talk the talk and not walk the walk happy growing
PS: not only do i make almost 5 pounds (4.75) off 5 plants but i also made 3/4 pound of hash with trimmings , and shake
so to think about almost 6 pounds of goods from 5 plants that my friend is what growing is all about

 

[TribalSeeds]

hmm better numbers now to be honest truthfully most of those pictures i have seen have bin more to the sativa side which gives you thinner leafs etc
This thread reminds me of them dummy pills doctors give out to pill popping junkies yup doctor gives them these useless pills and they feel better right away ) there are 1000's of posts i have seen on ICM where growers defoiled and lost yields now if your growing for your self and every piece of shake matters then by all means skin your plants but Scientifically, proven it is wrong to do this. I am not going to sit here banging my head hahaha giver shit folks skin your plant alive like i really give a fck really
for me its about yield and consistency

Continuing to show us your nice bud pictures doesn't change the fact that we all pull better numbers with proper defoliation.

now ^^^ is one of the funniest things i herd again scroll around IC , and see real yields that are comming out sure the hell not from skinning a plant lmao

What if I showed you two five gallon buckets full of dried bud from the same strain and grown in the same room. One bucket has 12oz of bud colas only, and the other bucket had 14oz of nothing but golf ball nugs of dense bud. If upon inspection the buds look the same, and if they were both the same price, which would you buy?

could you please ^^^ show us two 5 gallon buckets then may-be i will show you oh hell i will show you a 43 gallon bucket full of consistent sized buds but for now here 1 plant trim i think i was like a 0z under 2 pounds 36 x 72 screen and from not skinning a plant
anyways St3vo you sound like them guys that like to talk the talk and not walk the walk happy growing
PS: not only do i make almost 5 pounds (4.75) off 5 plants but i also made 3/4 pound of hash with trimmings , and shake
so to think about almost 6 pounds of goods from 5 plants that my friend is what growing is all about

What are you doing still posting here?
The OP clearly states he defoliates for yield and consistency
You still havent read the thread
Get the fuck on

 

[DrFever]

What are you doing still posting here?
The OP clearly states he defoliates for yield and consistency
You still havent read the thread
Get the fuck on

What folks need to focus on is the causes of premature leaf drop as that negatively affects yields. If you've read my posts, I try to pound that issue home whenever given a chance. After a good root development, the most important element in floral production is the retention of healthy leaves

but anyways if your dead set on skinning a plant lol here is some very helpful advice
If you decide to trim your fan leaves, one should always do it by clipping the petiole about halfway between the base of the fan leaf and the stem/branch. Allow the remainder of the petiole to dry up and fall off on its own. This will help protect the plant from risks of infections. They should never be stripped or broken off at the base of the petiole as that would be expose more chance of infecting the plant. Petiole is the he foot stalk of a leaf

 

[TribalSeeds]

What folks need to focus on is the causes of premature leaf drop as that negatively affects yields. If you've read my posts, I try to pound that issue home whenever given a chance. After a good root development, the most important element in floral production is the retention of healthy leaves

but anyways if your dead set on skinning a plant lol here is some very helpful advice
If you decide to trim your fan leaves, one should always do it by clipping the petiole about halfway between the base of the fan leaf and the stem/branch. Allow the remainder of the petiole to dry up and fall off on its own. This will help protect the plant from risks of infections. They should never be stripped or broken off at the base of the petiole as that would be expose more chance of infecting the plant. Petiole is the he foot stalk of a leaf

Hey dude! I think youre an excellent grower and you know your shit...
Everything you have to say or argue about, including your leaf plucking tip, is already covered in this thread. Just read it before you post in it is all Im saying!
The very first post in this thread has a cliff notes version that you could read in less than 10 mins and most of your rantings would be answered

 

[grassott's dad]

DrFever. I done showed you a defoliated plant (at your request) which was grown using less lights than your 2kw and which pisses on all the plants you've shown in your thread/troll posts and you're still here flapping your gums? Jeeez man. You don't defoliate and you don't wanna. We got it. Move on because you're getting pretty boring now mate. Thanks.

 

[señorsloth]

i seriously suspect this thread started repeating itself on page 20, and just kept going and going and going...almost 200 pages of people argueing the same things over and over...

WHY?!

on one side you have a bunch of posers who have never tried defoliating trying to cite some personal justification from nature of why defoliating cant work...just because something doesn't happen in nature doesn't mean it can't happen in science!

then there are a few people that are old hands and would never cut a leaf, just too stubborn to try it...but they seem to be in the minority...it seems that people who ACTUALLY grow pot for longer periods of time begin to realize that this plant is so hardy it can be trained to do almost anything...so when they see new techniqes like defoliating they know that at the very least it's worth a try, because it wont hurt anything, except maybe your yeild a little if you are wrong...

then of course there is the OTHER side, or maybe it should be called the RIGHT side... people who have ACTUALLY tried it, found that at the worst it didn't hurt anything and at best it lowered humidity, and increased yeild. of course there are plenty of posers on this side as well just feeding their useless posts into the woodchipper...

at 200 pages doesn't it seem like maybe we should have enough proof to settle this? defoliation is every bit as useful as lst and if we stopped allowing people who don't know what they are talking about give it a bad name page after page, maybe we could just have normal convo's about it like we do with suppercropping and scrogging...

it seems to me it's our job to prove it works, has not a single person done a side by side? once it's proven to work we need to make an informative thread and get rid of this 200 page mess of people arguing about things many of them have never tried...so new growers don't think it's a "controversial" technique, and can go about learning how to do it right.

i would love to share what i have learned about defoliating but i don't think this thread is really the place because i'll just get flamed by half a dozen poser trolls.

without defoliation i can't plant my sogs this close, simple as that, i average 5 grams on a 16 inch tall plant, and plant them less than 3 inches appart, 18 plants per sqare foot...it will max out yield with absolutely no veg time but defoliation is a must or you end up with nothing but fluff buds from being so dense...

nature makes fan leaves both for collecting as much light as possible and getting above the cannopy, but also they stick out far from the plant, unlike the smaller bud leaves, the big sun leaves major goal is to reach out over other plants and block them out, so it grows faster...if it successfully blocks all the other plants around it for light, then gets much taller than the other plants, gets more light, and spreads its seeds farther...outside in the wild its survival of the fittest as it should be.

inside the plants need to work together, they don't get to fight, mine all share one big soil bed, their roots intermingle and share the same soil, they breath the same air and absorb the same light, defoliation keeps them from competing with each other and allows them to grow more uniform and closer together, greatly increasing yields....without defoliation i could fit 24 plants in each bed, with defoliation i can fit 39 plants into each bed (15"X22")! the yields aren't reduced, but i got 15 extra plants in thanks to defoliation...15 plants of free pot because all i had to do to get them in their was clip a few more leaves each week..

 

[G.O. Joe]

Not accidentally, those who've tried this, and still think it sucks, will forever be unmentionable negrepped pariahs. Closed-mindedness is universal.

 

[DrFever]

Here from the mouth of a LEGEND watch it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYq7CuVpAeo&feature=related

 

[MiMedicineMan]

um maybe i'm missing the point here, but isn't it possible that some plants respond to this and some don't? Or that the densest leaf covered plants will gain the most from this as opposed to a plant that won't crowd itself out naturally?

I have had results both ways.

Obviously if you take off too many leaves the plant will be hurt. And the time of when you do this changes how the plant is affected.

I think plants are made to lose leaves just like they have other defense techniques. Maybe The ones with too many leaves have lots of buggers eating their leaves like they come from a forest where the ones with less leaves grow out in the open.

theres way more to it than how much do i get with defoliation or without?

 

[Bassy59]

im not too sure why you qouted me on that post and tryed to belittle me as i wasnt being horrible to anyone in that post atall.

Maybe you should try reading the quote of yours I quoted. Then look and read what I said. If you were literate you wouldn't ask this question and you wouldn't have made the statement in my first quote of yours.

 

[Bassy59]

Here from the mouth of a LEGEND watch it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYq7CuVpAeo&feature=related

"The Legend" is a burnout that hasn't actually tried to learn anything in ages and just trolls around getting paid to get high. He claims it slows down bud growth which is so far outta line it's retarded. Having completed two grows using this method, one week from 3rd grow using this method, with next grow in veg using this method I am here to say this DOES NOT SLOW BUD GROWTH.

 

[MiMedicineMan]

Bassy if you took off too much leaf from the whole plant (at one time) it would hurt the plant, correct?

I defoliate 3 or 4 leaves every time i touch a plant and I've never noticed a slow down, maybe even the opposite.