Is John Lennons greatest lyric, "don t let me down" or "imagine"?
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Beatles And I love her
I give her all my love
That's all I do
And if you saw my love
You'd love her too
I love her
She gives me everything
And tenderly
The kiss my lover brings
She brings to me
And I love her
A love like ours
Could never die
As long as I
Have you near me
Bright are the stars that shine
Dark is the sky
I know this love of mine
Will never die
And I love her
Bright are the stars that shine
Dark is the sky
I know this love of mine
Will never die
And I love her
Beatles And I love her
I give her all my love
That's all I do
And if you saw my love
You'd love her too
I love her
She gives me everything
And tenderly
The kiss my lover brings
She brings to me
And I love her
A love like ours
Could never die
As long as I
Have you near me
Bright are the stars that shine
Dark is the sky
I know this love of mine
Will never die
And I love her
Bright are the stars that shine
Dark is the sky
I know this love of mine
Will never die
And I love her
60 years ago the earth's population was about 3 billion people.
Now there are about 7 1/2 billion people.
So, does that mean the earth weighs about 450 billion pounds more than it did 60 years ago?
More importantly, will all that extra weight adversely affect the path of our planet's orbit around the sun?
Now there are about 7 1/2 billion people.
So, does that mean the earth weighs about 450 billion pounds more than it did 60 years ago?
More importantly, will all that extra weight adversely affect the path of our planet's orbit around the sun?
No worries there, for most animals are being extinct at the same rate, so planet keeps weighing roughly the same.
St. Phatty
Active member
The effects of hydrocarbon burning are fairly obvious. Global CO2 concentrations rising well above the level recommended by Ed Rosenthal in his 1980's grow books - 389 ppm.
However, the products of hydrocarbon combustion, when you do the recipe (stoichiometry), are mostly CO2 and water.
So every year, we collectively burn about 1 cubic mile (literally) of oil, and a similar amount of coal.
The oil contributes CO2 & water to the atmosphere. I always wondered, what is the effect of that extra water.
The coal, CO2 for sure ... not sure about the water.
However, the products of hydrocarbon combustion, when you do the recipe (stoichiometry), are mostly CO2 and water.
So every year, we collectively burn about 1 cubic mile (literally) of oil, and a similar amount of coal.
The oil contributes CO2 & water to the atmosphere. I always wondered, what is the effect of that extra water.
The coal, CO2 for sure ... not sure about the water.
Nice one! More of a rethorical question eh ?
( ahem, since we are made from the dust of the earth and return to dust the weight of the earth doesn't change nor does its orbit).
I'm opening a bottle of wine now, fuck it, I'm calling it a day and welcome to you, weekend
CC
It's a closed system, (sealed room), so the weight is static.
However, gotta wonder. What if the entire population of the planet flew to Australia for a session of synchronize jumping? Would we wobble?
And what if we moved all of our rockets and missiles to the equator and buried them with the thrusters facing east.
Then fired them all together, could we slow the rotation by a smidge?
Call it the "longer days project".
M
moose eater
It's a closed system, (sealed room), so the weight is static.
However, gotta wonder. What if the entire population of the planet flew to Australia for a session of synchronize jumping? Would we wobble?
And what if we moved all of our rockets and missiles to the equator and buried them with the thrusters facing east.
Then fired them all together, could we slow the rotation by a smidge?
Call it the "longer days project".
The thrusters might be a nice touch. Find out what really large experimentation with inertia looks like.
But re. the planet's weight, I recall reading something about the 'holes' in the atmosphere getting larger, and ice sheets in 'inner-space' becoming larger, some years back.
If that's true, and moisture is now escaping the atmosphere at a greater rate, that casts doubts on the whole 'static weight' thing.
I've also noted that while the Interior of Alaska has traditionally been categorized as an 'arctic desert climate,' we are now more wet in the summer, and much less cold in the winter, which also has an effect on the moisture content; not overall, but re. distribution of that weight on the planet.
What if the world simply tips over, like a drunk from a bar stool??
Which planet is apt to escort it to the door and 86 it?
Did you know the earth spins slightly faster when it's winter in the northern hemisphere ?
It's because the trees drop their leaves and therefore all that weight comes a few meters closer to the earth's center. It's like a pirouetting figure skater who pulls in his arms and speeds up spinning ( and most forest is concentrated on the northern hemisphere)
olala
It's because the trees drop their leaves and therefore all that weight comes a few meters closer to the earth's center. It's like a pirouetting figure skater who pulls in his arms and speeds up spinning ( and most forest is concentrated on the northern hemisphere)
olala
M
moose eater
I thought my equilibrium was off more so in the darker months!!!
I had attributed it to staying inside more, and smoking more hash!!
The earth is so large and it's mass so great that it is doubtful the weight of human population has any meaningful impact, even though the population has more then doubled in the past 60 years. Now that is not to say that such population increase does not have an impact. I'm not sure what the official start point is but scientists say we are in a period of species extinction greater then any time in recorded history. Then there is the massive ecological impact and even if we discount climate change as a natural phenomenon that is just so slow we've never been thru a full cycle before so as to recognize it, our environmental impact is still so negative that we are endangering ourselves as well as every other living thing (except maybe cockroaches ) on the planet. If we don't change our ways to live more in harmony with the world around us we might not make it to see the population double again even though that is likely to happen in half the time it last doubled, due to an exponential growth rate. To continue on our present course is an unsustainable course. Some say that climate change is the greatest threat to mankind but if we don't stop killing off everything else like the insect population for example we'll likely face our own potential extinction well before the climate can do us in. Then add on top of that the reality that the powers that be have yet to fully recognize and fear the threat of nuclear war, our end could be even closer.
) on the planet. If we don't change our ways to live more in harmony with the world around us we might not make it to see the population double again even though that is likely to happen in half the time it last doubled, due to an exponential growth rate. To continue on our present course is an unsustainable course. Some say that climate change is the greatest threat to mankind but if we don't stop killing off everything else like the insect population for example we'll likely face our own potential extinction well before the climate can do us in. Then add on top of that the reality that the powers that be have yet to fully recognize and fear the threat of nuclear war, our end could be even closer.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]What if the world simply tips over, like a drunk from a bar stool??
Which planet is apt to escort it to the door and 86 it?
My money's on Jupiter.
No worry about escaping water vapor.
Made up for by all that stardust we catch, yah?
Let's face those thrusters West. If we speed this pup up, we will all weigh less.
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My money's on Jupiter.
No worry about escaping water vapor.
Made up for by all that stardust we catch, yah?
Let's face those thrusters West. If we speed this pup up, we will all weigh less.
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I thought my equilibrium was off more so in the darker months!!!
I had attributed it to staying inside more, and smoking more hash!!
That's a big part of it to be sure.
I was blaming gravity storms and space quakes.
Turned out to be that banana in my ear.
Now let us ponder even more important matters like, since the resin in marijuana is what gets us high and it vaporizes at such a low temperature, is there really any sense trying to smoke a bowl until all it's contents have turned to ash? 
Got Trichomes?
Got Trichomes?
M
moose eater
Now let us ponder even more important matters like, since the resin in marijuana is what gets us high and it vaporizes at such a low temperature, is there really any sense trying to smoke a bowl until all it's contents have turned to ash?
Or, is the heat from the sun combined with the greenhouse effect, going to result in the cosmos essentially vaporizing the THC in my weed and hash, and not even leave me a 'thank you' card?
That'd suck!!
Or, is the heat from the sun combined with the greenhouse effect, going to result in the cosmos essentially vaporizing the THC in my weed and hash, and not even leave me a 'thank you' card?
That'd suck!!
Well the good news, if one could call it that, is that if it ever got that hot you (being that humans are mostly water) would vaporize first. So you wouldn't be around to care about much less read a thank you card
temperature at which water vaporizes - 212 degrees F / 100 degrees C
temperature at which marijuana resin vaporizes - 314.6 to 428 degrees F / 157 and 220 degrees C
Note: The range is due to the fact that not all cannabinoids vaporize at the same temperature.
M
moose eater
Well the good news, if one could call it that, is that if it ever got that hot you (being that humans are mostly water) would vaporize first. So you wouldn't be around to care about much less read a thank you card
temperature at which water vaporizes - 212 degrees F / 100 degrees C
temperature at which marijuana resin vaporizes - 314.6 to 428 degrees F / 157 and 220 degrees C
Note: The range is due to the fact that not all cannabinoids vaporize at the same temperature.
Well, from the perspective of a guy who sometimes hoards his stash, that's a relief... I think. ;^>)
In a more serious reply re. the extinctions, warming/climate change trends (which I've witnessed anecdotally in Alaska for decades now), etc. my take on it is this;
The folks who follow the climate change issues are saying it's too late to reverse now anyway.
As for the collection of Alfred E. Newman-types running the planet now, on behalf of their corporate masters/oligarchs, I figure the fact that we've made it this far without glowing in the dark is no small miracle, frankly. And when/if that day comes (I figure 'when,' not 'if,' though that may make me sound a lot like the nuts-oid Col. in Dr. Strangelove), that too is way beyond my control.
So in the interim, while I await our collective karma where environmental chaos is concerned, or wait for one of these crazy mofos to obliterate us with a wall of nuclear-bomb-generated flame and the follow-up of radioactive mutation, I'll live as realistically conscientiously as possible, flip the bastards the bird when ever offered the opportunity, and hope to be swilling a LARGE shot of GOOD tequila, eating a minor amount of really good chow, inhaling a really good puff of awesome hash, and standing at Ground Zero when all that shit occurs.. as I wouldn't want to stay around for the dregs of existence that are apt to remain..
Just my take on where we've brought our sorry species and surrounding reality to at this point.
Acknowledge it, mourn for it, and party like there's no tomorrow...... as there may not be.
I don't think there's apt to be any 'do-overs' this time around... :^I
M
moose eater
Another consideration that occurred to me a while back;
In the event that science -does- come up with a method for safe long-term space travel for humans and other species, and finds another suitable planet to escape to when this place is shot to hell, what do you suppose will be the criteria for who goes?
Same as the criteria for getting into the vaulted caves in the mountains where the politicos anticipate surviving the nuclear wars they'll be responsible for carrying out??
Great!!
So the folks with the cleanest of consciences, and greatest of insight, the soufulness required to -not- repeat our mistakes again, etc., -those- will likely be the ones left behind to die, while the same miserable fucks who own the lion's share of guilt for the outcome.. they will get to travel to the next place they'll likely toast like marshmallows on a stick at a camp fire..
We humans have a propensity for re-creating our history, just using more modern technology to do so, as we repeat our errors.. over and over....
There's a cheery Thanksgiving season thought, eh?
In the event that science -does- come up with a method for safe long-term space travel for humans and other species, and finds another suitable planet to escape to when this place is shot to hell, what do you suppose will be the criteria for who goes?
Same as the criteria for getting into the vaulted caves in the mountains where the politicos anticipate surviving the nuclear wars they'll be responsible for carrying out??
Great!!
So the folks with the cleanest of consciences, and greatest of insight, the soufulness required to -not- repeat our mistakes again, etc., -those- will likely be the ones left behind to die, while the same miserable fucks who own the lion's share of guilt for the outcome.. they will get to travel to the next place they'll likely toast like marshmallows on a stick at a camp fire..
We humans have a propensity for re-creating our history, just using more modern technology to do so, as we repeat our errors.. over and over....
There's a cheery Thanksgiving season thought, eh?
