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David Grusch - Real Deal UFOs In Gov Possession?

big315smooth

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so many different categories of visitors
if you go to the ones that have 'high' evidence I'm not sure any match up identically
every encounter situation is unique?
the only thing I can recall that's vaguely similar is astronomical observations with gravitational lensing
astronomers use gravitational lensing to get deep magnification, but have no control where it occurs
UFO'S similar? an alien pop in with little control where they pop in?
yea that gravitational lensing is interesting stuff heard it mentioned about in videos. remember seeing pics on it to the galaxies look like arcs
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they're back

they never left media just stopped reporting it. someone told the higher ups at the news station to pull the plug shit went radio silent. daily those compilation channels on youtube are still posting stuff from all over the world orbs drones strange lights etc
 

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they never left media just stopped reporting it. someone told the higher ups at the news station to pull the plug shit went radio silent. daily those compilation channels on youtube are still posting stuff from all over the world orbs drones strange lights etc
there seems to be an uptick that aligns with FAA taking down the no fly order
maybe they're aliens after all and with a sense of humor
 

big315smooth

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there seems to be an uptick that aligns with FAA taking down the no fly order
maybe they're aliens after all and with a sense of humor
same time them drones were up orbs sighting were on the up. seen much of videos drones following them orbs. the november before last one i seen orb out car window bright spec caught my eye it stayed with the vehicle for 6 miles till got home then got good view when it was over the fields was super clear sky november night so could see it through treeline. two night later around same area dad called me seen one when was filling the outdoor wood boiler said it shot across the sky in 3 stop and go bursts zero sound bright ball looking.

closeup of one them drones
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closup of orb. mute if need lady is having a religious experience


seen abunch of video them drones tailing orbs this one got dropped in other videos dropped when close but balanced out regained flight. weird stuff drones are military they must be seeing what the orbs are up to
 

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time for some more speculation, this is on an aspect of the UFO/military relationship
many here think the worst of the USA military, the military lies about all UFO related phenomena and it's all conspiracy
not going to dismiss that view, plainly the military has pursued a certain agenda
I'd take a more grey and nuanced view, not everything is a lie
there's a long history since WW2 of military aircraft being seen with UFOs in close proximity
witnesses are credible and military strongly denies many of these events with aircraft
who's lying? maybe nobody
there are many eyes in the chain of command of military aircraft, hard to keep such dramatic events secret
just suppose the aircraft seen are part of the UFO event
they didn't come from a military base, at least not one of our military bases
just another possible twist in a so far endless mystery
 

big315smooth

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the military>deny deny deny we already know what their up to. this video new good questions good answers and experimental stuff goes into some of the psionic/ufo phenomenon. greer use to get alot of shit with his ce5 studies i thought it was alittle out there at first but its gaining traction as of lately
 

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just saw what I think was an unusual drone tonight
flying low and fast, absolutely silent
bright white which could have been a navigation light, but did not flash and I'm sure of that
no other "navigation" lights visible, was in my field of view for maybe 5-10 seconds
bright as Venus, I say that with confidence because I've been watching Venus put on a show this week
this wasn't Venus, I'm in upstate NY for location
 

big315smooth

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yup that's what suck bout seeing the white balls of light you see em and that's it and then your left sitting there going wtf did I just see. besides the one I seen in car saw two others one about four years ago having a midnight toke looking up at the sky clouds north east and west saw small orb light up 5 seconds before flying into the clouds it illuminated the cloud wall for second or two as it entered then vanished in the thick. the 3rd time about 9 yrs was grilling burgers late night had beer munchies and outta the corner of my eye noticed two bright specs of light one more than the other. one of them was a star I'm guessing both just sitting there after few minutes the brighter one of them started moving slowley in the sky then watched it drift away for about 2 minutes until the treeline blocked my view. all three times I thought well that was weird and that was it
 

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time for analysis and a satisfying outcome
began doing some eliminations on my sighting
it couldn't be an air legal aircraft/drone
and it can be tough to judge altitude of an object without a reference, even more so at night
seemed mighty bright for a satellite, but a little research was warranted
and there is indeed one very bright satellite, the ISS
used a tracker and bingo, right over me house
on the whole pretty cool, never saw the ISS before
 

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yeah the ones I seen werent iss one to low other in cloud and third took off from a fixed position. still the coolest experience I had was in the back of truck out in the field that one night posted on way earlier in the thread. whatever it was had some of the 5 observable
 

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lubbock lights 1951. multiple sightings over several days two ladies one night while driving home seen a pear shaped object hovering by the road. Lt. edward j ruppelt from bluebook investigated it and said it was easily explainable at first then said naturally occuring phenomenon then later said caused by night flying moths. pic must be the mothership said the lights glowed blueish green
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