I have no more, just what it smells like
they're lights in the sky that go where they want, and might be able do other things than just look
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David Grusch - Real Deal UFOs In Gov Possession?
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they're lights in the sky that go where they want, and might be able do other things than just look
H e d g e
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This is what intrigues me, the military must have all sorts of technology with potentially useful applications other than their intended destructive purpose.
Can it make coffee? Toast? What are the likely unforeseen negative impacts of its use? Causing outdoor to herm or delaying flowering onset? Wry neck in chickens?
UAP unidentified anomalous phenomenon
I'm old school, they're UFOs to me
H e d g e
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Drone implies unmanned to me, they’re big enough to carry a human but more likely ai driven.
If they’re identifiably drones the U should be removed but they could still be described as FO flying objects, AP arial phenomenon, or FOAP foreign office agent provocateurs, flummoxed old aged pensioners?
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Lehmi
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I think that is very likely!
But I don't think humanity as a whole is yet developed enough to be able to unlock this ability. The frequency we are on collectively is mainly fear and therefore vibrates far too low. (This will change, I am sure!)
It also needs our inner consent for telepathic communication.
Out of the blue, when people suddenly hear inner voices, they would be deeply disturbed. We know how to deal with these people....
Very few people can distinguish between mental illness and spiritual contact with entities that are not centered in our 3D system.
What their intentions are is another question, see the topic of channeling.
Another exciting field to explore in more detail, using vibrations as a healing therapy!
More and more, humanity is opening up to more successful ways of healing than the familiar: “Operation successful, patient dead.”
Star Trek I hear you!
Oooouuuhhh, that's veeeery dangerous!Eta. what would cat noises do to a plant? Pretty sure I read somewhere about deep base stimulating mycelial growth, it’d have to be tested in hydro as well as organic to be sure it was affecting the plant directly.
The purring cat changes the genome, that's how weed became cat grass! If they keep purring at plants, they'll give milk too!
This point also makes me wonder, the military is silent on this, the reports are contradictory.
It's hard to imagine that the best-equipped army in the world has no idea what's flying around, let alone how to remove it.
The possibility of a psy-op is not yet off the table, too many inconsistencies have been reported. And the impending new drone law is a striking coincidence of timing.
Nevertheless, I would be interested to know how these big things can stay in the air for so long and fly/hover so damn fast or slow.
What's more frightening for you, that it's non-human intelligence or that it's something from the deep state / power elites?
H e d g e
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I’m not in the least bit frightened, I have experienced enough horror for anything else I encounter to be considered comparably insignificant. I do not fear death.
They’re not aliens.
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Lehmi
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Why should we? It makes no sense to fear something that will happen anyway. It's just the closing of a chapter, not our lives.
(However, I am very wary of those who claim to be completely free of fear.
I like to stay away from these people because they can tend to get sucked into their maelstrom of doom without any consideration for others.
)But much worse are the effects on our society in stirring up indefinable, diffuse fears.
Politicians and other authorities are masters at maintaining the effectiveness of their manipulations.
Do you generally reject the possibility of non-human intelligence living beings or only in this actual case of the drones?
H e d g e
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Plenty of none human intelligence out there, slime mould for example.Why should we? It makes no sense to fear something that will happen anyway. It's just the closing of a chapter, not our lives.
(However, I am very wary of those who claim to be completely free of fear.
I like to stay away from these people because they can tend to get sucked into their maelstrom of doom without any consideration for others.
But much worse are the effects on our society in stirring up indefinable, diffuse fears.
Politicians and other authorities are masters at maintaining the effectiveness of their manipulations.
Do you generally reject the possibility of non-human intelligence living beings or only in this actual case of the drones?
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Interesting what you say about people without fear lacking empathy, it’s not been my experience, quite the opposite.
Maybe it depends how you end up that way? A child that doesn’t fear heights having never fallen vs a professional sky diver?
I’ve found some people who have no experience or understanding of suffering to lack empathy, maybe it’s them you prefer to avoid? It’s often the things we avoid that we need to see.
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Lehmi
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Plenty of none human intelligence out there, slime mould for example.
Using a 'virtual slime mold' to design a subway network less prone to disruption
It doesn't have a brain and survives on rotting vegetable matter—but it could offer valuable insights into city planning, according to a team of University of Toronto researchers.phys.org
Interesting what you say about people without fear lacking empathy, it’s not been my experience, quite the opposite.
Maybe it depends how you end up that way? A child that doesn’t fear heights having never fallen vs a professional sky diver?
I’ve found some people who have no experience or understanding of suffering to lack empathy, maybe it’s them you prefer to avoid?
There are concrete, physical fears that are normal, necessary for survival and part of the human experience. Of course, with hard training and real missions, you can come to terms with it and get used to dealing with it (also, for example, by always checking your equipment carefully and replacing it if necessary). Some people tend to confuse this routine with complete freedom from fear. This is a deception, as our modern sciences have soundly proven.
The psychological, diffuse fears/anxiety are far more complex once they are in our thought system. Recognizing these first requires some mindfulness and mental discipline.
They are far from gone just by leaning, they are merely suppressed. Many people have internalized this very well without giving it a second thought. After all, there are endless distractions these days.
There are not so many who are advanced enough today to have achieved true mental & physical mastery plus an overview of our true nature of reality. This cannot be achieved with endless drug use alone.
H e d g e
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I’m talking more about the effect of severe complex post traumatic stress than hard training or real missions, tell a concentration camp surviver there’s unidentified drones flying overhead they’d probably just smile. Weirdly high stress situations are much easier to deal with than uneventful ones, it changes the brain in strange ways.
I have been told by someone in the defense tech industry that they have the tech to completely takeover any drone without anyone knowing (not even the drone operator) it is being done or where from and there is nothing you can do about it.
the latest UFO scuttlebutt from over the world
and it is from over the world, large scale and international
communicable hysteria? just higher reporting rates of UFOs due to the excitement? anything is possible
one very interesting feature, it's drones that are following orbs
maybe the UFOs were orbs from the get go, the 'drones' have been tagging along as observers?
which is making for a more confused situation
the speculation is the drones are government(s) operations tracking the UFOs
and it is from over the world, large scale and international
communicable hysteria? just higher reporting rates of UFOs due to the excitement? anything is possible
one very interesting feature, it's drones that are following orbs
maybe the UFOs were orbs from the get go, the 'drones' have been tagging along as observers?
which is making for a more confused situation
the speculation is the drones are government(s) operations tracking the UFOs
Lehmi
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Zeta Reticuli
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In a year 2012 no body here where i live didnt have a drone,actually it didnt act like a drone,was multicolour
object very high in the sky and was move with high speed from left to right and up and down,haved also movie of the object and when i slowed picture it showed that object moves in hyper speed,dissapering
and again emerging,was very interesting to watch.
To this day i never found what it was,i guess its a real UFO,but people mostly dont belive till they sees one.
truer words were never spoken!
U Found One.
the NUFORC summation of recent events is of a quality that deserves a reposting here imho
For the past few months, mysterious drone like craft the size of SUV’s have been sighted nightly, primarily between sunset and midnight, with the nexus of recent reports coming out of New Jersey. The sightings have been so overwhelming that they have become a media sensation, with organizations like CNN, which normally avoid UAP coverage, featuring the story prominently. The government has stated that they are as mystified as anyone else as to who or what is behind this, and an increasing sense of frustration is being voiced by lawmakers and citizens in the affected areas. The flap is so intense that NUFORC’s report volume has doubled from what we usually receive.
One of the more dramatic encounters occurred in London, Ontario, Canada. Beginning at 6:58 PM on December 13, and lasting for a period of a period of 3.5 hours, a witness observed multiple large drone-like objects with white lights that flashed red and green. The event escalated when a giant, bright spotlight silently hovered above the trees in their yard for about 40 minutes. Multiple additional objects, smaller in comparison, seemed to fly around this central light. Full Report/Video
What are we to make of all of this and who is responsible? Theories abound from foreign adversaries to secret government agencies. These ideas have been debated thoroughly, but it’s worthwhile to step back and consider the incredibly anomalous characteristics of these objects:
There have been attempts to track and interdict them. The government has sophisticated anti-drone capability, including jamming and even the ability to take over control in some instances. A car-sized drone presents a significant radar cross-section (RCS), and radar systems designed to detect aircraft or large objects would likely pick it up. But a month into the current flap, not a single drone has been tracked to its source or captured. Why? Could it be that we are simply incapable of doing it? What kind of object could evade us that way?
There is, of course, a long history of flying objects with flashing multicolored lights that buzz military bases and evade attempted interception. Could it be that these “drones” are actually true UFO’s, disguised to look like terrestrial drones for some unknown reason? A report received yesterday from Radcliffe, KY seems to point to this possibility. A witness spotted drones flying low over their house, followed a few minutes later by a Blackhawk helicopter that came onto the scene and chased three of them. Two minutes after that, something even more anomalous happened. A large triangular UFO appeared and followed the drones and helicopter. The description of the triangular UFO conforms to other triangles that have been observed for over 30 years, from the Belgium wave to the Hudson Valley sightings to the Phoenix Lights (see our gallery page for images). Assuming the triangle was not of human origin, what does that say about the “drones”? Full Report
It is also worthwhile to note that this recent wave is eerily reminiscent of similar events over northeastern Colorado and western Nebraska, that occurred from December 2019 to January 2020. During that period, residents also reported numerous sightings of unidentified drones flying in coordinated formations during evening hours. Witnesses described groups of up to 19 drones with estimated wingspans of about six feet, flying in grid patterns at altitudes between 200 and 500 feet. The sightings were never explained.
While we at NUFORC are keeping an open mind, the theory that these drones are NHI (non human intelligence) craft is something to consider, and at this current stage it can’t be ruled out.
The Great “Drone” Flap of 2024
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For the past few months, mysterious drone like craft the size of SUV’s have been sighted nightly, primarily between sunset and midnight, with the nexus of recent reports coming out of New Jersey. The sightings have been so overwhelming that they have become a media sensation, with organizations like CNN, which normally avoid UAP coverage, featuring the story prominently. The government has stated that they are as mystified as anyone else as to who or what is behind this, and an increasing sense of frustration is being voiced by lawmakers and citizens in the affected areas. The flap is so intense that NUFORC’s report volume has doubled from what we usually receive.
One of the more dramatic encounters occurred in London, Ontario, Canada. Beginning at 6:58 PM on December 13, and lasting for a period of a period of 3.5 hours, a witness observed multiple large drone-like objects with white lights that flashed red and green. The event escalated when a giant, bright spotlight silently hovered above the trees in their yard for about 40 minutes. Multiple additional objects, smaller in comparison, seemed to fly around this central light. Full Report/Video
What are we to make of all of this and who is responsible? Theories abound from foreign adversaries to secret government agencies. These ideas have been debated thoroughly, but it’s worthwhile to step back and consider the incredibly anomalous characteristics of these objects:
- Size: Many of the drones are the size of cars or SUV’s, and one witness described seeing one the size of a school bus..
- Speed: They can outrun police drones that attempt to follow them.
- Stealth: They turn off their lights when approached, exhibiting an ability to be aware of what’s going on around them and respond.
- No Remote ID: Drones above 250 grams are required to broadcast identification and location data. These apparently do not.
- Thermal Anomalies: The Ocean County Sheriff’s Office observed the drones emitted no heat, making them impossible to see with IR.
- Interference: They have been reported to interfere with car clocks and cell phones.
- Quantity: Up to 50 drones have been sighted in coordinated flight patterns, and the number of reports is now in the thousands.
- Duration: The drones are able to stay aloft for hours, suggesting a very robust power source on board.
There have been attempts to track and interdict them. The government has sophisticated anti-drone capability, including jamming and even the ability to take over control in some instances. A car-sized drone presents a significant radar cross-section (RCS), and radar systems designed to detect aircraft or large objects would likely pick it up. But a month into the current flap, not a single drone has been tracked to its source or captured. Why? Could it be that we are simply incapable of doing it? What kind of object could evade us that way?
There is, of course, a long history of flying objects with flashing multicolored lights that buzz military bases and evade attempted interception. Could it be that these “drones” are actually true UFO’s, disguised to look like terrestrial drones for some unknown reason? A report received yesterday from Radcliffe, KY seems to point to this possibility. A witness spotted drones flying low over their house, followed a few minutes later by a Blackhawk helicopter that came onto the scene and chased three of them. Two minutes after that, something even more anomalous happened. A large triangular UFO appeared and followed the drones and helicopter. The description of the triangular UFO conforms to other triangles that have been observed for over 30 years, from the Belgium wave to the Hudson Valley sightings to the Phoenix Lights (see our gallery page for images). Assuming the triangle was not of human origin, what does that say about the “drones”? Full Report
It is also worthwhile to note that this recent wave is eerily reminiscent of similar events over northeastern Colorado and western Nebraska, that occurred from December 2019 to January 2020. During that period, residents also reported numerous sightings of unidentified drones flying in coordinated formations during evening hours. Witnesses described groups of up to 19 drones with estimated wingspans of about six feet, flying in grid patterns at altitudes between 200 and 500 feet. The sightings were never explained.
While we at NUFORC are keeping an open mind, the theory that these drones are NHI (non human intelligence) craft is something to consider, and at this current stage it can’t be ruled out.
