David Grusch - Real Deal UFOs In Gov Possession?

[igrowone]

oh ok! i thought it was just weird lights in the sky maybe launched from the iranian boats off the coast or ???
but please go on

i for one welcome our alien overlords

I have no more, just what it smells like
they're lights in the sky that go where they want, and might be able do other things than just look

 

[H e d g e]

I have no more, just what it smells like
they're lights in the sky that go where they want, and might be able do other things than just look

This is what intrigues me, the military must have all sorts of technology with potentially useful applications other than their intended destructive purpose.
Can it make coffee? Toast? What are the likely unforeseen negative impacts of its use? Causing outdoor to herm or delaying flowering onset? Wry neck in chickens?

 

[arsekick]

we're well past these being kid's toys
this is UFO situation of the like we've never seen before
we don't know what counter measures have been attempted
that statement smacks of fear

UAP unidentified anomalous phenomenon

 

[igrowone]

UAP unidentified anomalous phenomenon

I'm old school, they're UFOs to me

 

[H e d g e]

I'm old school, they're UFOs to me

Drone implies unmanned to me, they’re big enough to carry a human but more likely ai driven.
If they’re identifiably drones the U should be removed but they could still be described as FO flying objects, AP arial phenomenon, or FOAP foreign office agent provocateurs, flummoxed old aged pensioners?

 

[Lehmi]

i suppose if a ufo can travel through space and time the inhabitants could most likely communicate telepathically and on many different frequencies.

I think that is very likely!

But I don't think humanity as a whole is yet developed enough to be able to unlock this ability. The frequency we are on collectively is mainly fear and therefore vibrates far too low. (This will change, I am sure!)

It also needs our inner consent for telepathic communication.
Out of the blue, when people suddenly hear inner voices, they would be deeply disturbed. We know how to deal with these people....
Very few people can distinguish between mental illness and spiritual contact with entities that are not centered in our 3D system.
What their intentions are is another question, see the topic of channeling.

‘studies have examined the potential of low-intensity vibrations in healing mice wounds. Although the exact mechanism behind how the vibrations assist healing isn’t understood, scientists noted it promoted the growth of crucial granulation tissue – connective tissue and microscopic blood vessels – around injured areas.’

Another exciting field to explore in more detail, using vibrations as a healing therapy!

More and more, humanity is opening up to more successful ways of healing than the familiar: “Operation successful, patient dead.”

Star Trek I hear you!

Eta. what would cat noises do to a plant? Pretty sure I read somewhere about deep base stimulating mycelial growth, it’d have to be tested in hydro as well as organic to be sure it was affecting the plant directly.

Oooouuuhhh, that's veeeery dangerous!
The purring cat changes the genome, that's how weed became cat grass! If they keep purring at plants, they'll give milk too!

This is what intrigues me, the military must have all sorts of technology with potentially useful applications other than their intended destructive purpose.

This point also makes me wonder, the military is silent on this, the reports are contradictory.
It's hard to imagine that the best-equipped army in the world has no idea what's flying around, let alone how to remove it.

The possibility of a psy-op is not yet off the table, too many inconsistencies have been reported. And the impending new drone law is a striking coincidence of timing.

Nevertheless, I would be interested to know how these big things can stay in the air for so long and fly/hover so damn fast or slow.

What's more frightening for you, that it's non-human intelligence or that it's something from the deep state / power elites?

 

[mexcurandero420]

 

[H e d g e]

What's more frightening for you, that it's non-human intelligence or that it's something from the deep state / power elites?

I’m not in the least bit frightened, I have experienced enough horror for anything else I encounter to be considered comparably insignificant. I do not fear death.
They’re not aliens.

 

[Lehmi]

I do not fear death.

Why should we? It makes no sense to fear something that will happen anyway. It's just the closing of a chapter, not our lives.
(However, I am very wary of those who claim to be completely free of fear.
I like to stay away from these people because they can tend to get sucked into their maelstrom of doom without any consideration for others. )

But much worse are the effects on our society in stirring up indefinable, diffuse fears.
Politicians and other authorities are masters at maintaining the effectiveness of their manipulations.

I’m not in the least bit frightened, I have experienced enough horror for anything else I encounter to be considered comparably insignificant. I do not fear death.
They’re not aliens.

Do you generally reject the possibility of non-human intelligence living beings or only in this actual case of the drones?

 

[H e d g e]

Why should we? It makes no sense to fear something that will happen anyway. It's just the closing of a chapter, not our lives.
(However, I am very wary of those who claim to be completely free of fear.
I like to stay away from these people because they can tend to get sucked into their maelstrom of doom without any consideration for others. )

But much worse are the effects on our society in stirring up indefinable, diffuse fears.
Politicians and other authorities are masters at maintaining the effectiveness of their manipulations.



Do you generally reject the possibility of non-human intelligence living beings or only in this actual case of the drones?

Plenty of none human intelligence out there, slime mould for example.

Using a 'virtual slime mold' to design a subway network less prone to disruption

It doesn't have a brain and survives on rotting vegetable matter—but it could offer valuable insights into city planning, according to a team of University of Toronto researchers.

phys.org

Interesting what you say about people without fear lacking empathy, it’s not been my experience, quite the opposite.
Maybe it depends how you end up that way? A child that doesn’t fear heights having never fallen vs a professional sky diver?
I’ve found some people who have no experience or understanding of suffering to lack empathy, maybe it’s them you prefer to avoid? It’s often the things we avoid that we need to see.

 

[Lehmi]

Plenty of none human intelligence out there, slime mould for example.

Using a 'virtual slime mold' to design a subway network less prone to disruption

It doesn't have a brain and survives on rotting vegetable matter—but it could offer valuable insights into city planning, according to a team of University of Toronto researchers.

phys.org

Interesting what you say about people without fear lacking empathy, it’s not been my experience, quite the opposite.
Maybe it depends how you end up that way? A child that doesn’t fear heights having never fallen vs a professional sky diver?
I’ve found some people who have no experience or understanding of suffering to lack empathy, maybe it’s them you prefer to avoid?

There are concrete, physical fears that are normal, necessary for survival and part of the human experience. Of course, with hard training and real missions, you can come to terms with it and get used to dealing with it (also, for example, by always checking your equipment carefully and replacing it if necessary). Some people tend to confuse this routine with complete freedom from fear. This is a deception, as our modern sciences have soundly proven.


The psychological, diffuse fears/anxiety are far more complex once they are in our thought system. Recognizing these first requires some mindfulness and mental discipline.

They are far from gone just by leaning, they are merely suppressed. Many people have internalized this very well without giving it a second thought. After all, there are endless distractions these days.

There are not so many who are advanced enough today to have achieved true mental & physical mastery plus an overview of our true nature of reality. This cannot be achieved with endless drug use alone.

 

[H e d g e]

I’m talking more about the effect of severe complex post traumatic stress than hard training or real missions, tell a concentration camp surviver there’s unidentified drones flying overhead they’d probably just smile. Weirdly high stress situations are much easier to deal with than uneventful ones, it changes the brain in strange ways.

 

[Frosty Nuggets]

i agree man!
but this also seems like the media just trying to whip up a good story
first how do they define deadly force (sorry i did not read the article)
you arent going to shoot down a drone over an inhabited area willy nilly unless you are ready to eat some potential lawsuits
jamming technology is there and i wonder if it has advanced to the point where they can just force land whatever the drone is, but again where?
we are fighting this with both hands tied behind our back
the use has air defense systems that can take down missiles but we are going to be stymied by some kids toy?

I have been told by someone in the defense tech industry that they have the tech to completely takeover any drone without anyone knowing (not even the drone operator) it is being done or where from and there is nothing you can do about it.