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David Grusch - Real Deal UFOs In Gov Possession?

big315smooth

mama tried
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good read if havnt already find this one interesting sky battle over germany 1561
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Lehmi

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As some here may know, in November 2023 there was a (non-public) conference at Stanford University organized by the Sol Federation, which aims to shed light on the topic of UAP in an interdisciplinary and serious way.

The invited people were from the fields of science, space medicine, government, military & intelligence, investors, trusted journalists and even a few Youtubers.




Almost all the presentations are now public, I find it very exciting to see that the topics of materials research and physics in particular have already provided some insights, reverse engineering already seems to be underway.







The social effects, including religious and philosophical questions of faith and even legal issues, were also discussed.
(However, my English is too rudimentary to be able to keep up fully. )




I really like how the competent speakers approach the topic seriously and with the necessary skepticism to maintain an objective openness to these phenomena. (It's about time! )

I believe that we will experience further scientific quantum leaps on this journey of discovery, perhaps even more earth-shattering than Planck's quantum theory and Einstein's theory of relativity.

I also hope for a leap forward in human and socio-political development, so that we finally realize how we can all take responsibility for our planet and all its inhabitants.
... even if I won't live to see this goal, this is the compass direction that actually makes sense.
 
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Ca++

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are we so unusual? it's a tough world(universe) out there
aliens or whatever they are could have their own wars/feuds
depressing thought, but until you get hard information nothing is ruled out

There are really two scenarios. In one, they come and enslave us. Destroy our society, and make us build pyramids or something. In the other, they keep away from us, like Easter Island with it's totems.

There is no doubt that we are the type that would enslave people. While any we have seen lately, are keeping out the way.

Somewhere between them hiding or attacking, is some sort of utopian deal. Where we just take knowledge, and they just want to take our nuclear waste. The problem is, we are so incapable of this, that utopian is synonymous with impossible in our language.

Most adults only have a couple of friends, and can't actually support more than 5 or 6. Rather than having concern for everybody.
200 years ago, the Europeans took Australia, even though people already lived there. The russians and israelies keep taking land from their neighbours today. America took lands from people already there. All in the last 5 minutes, on the intergalactic clock. Who would you want to be friends with.
 

Lehmi

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Who would you want to be friends with.
With those who are life-affirming and conscious, who have a broad horizon, who carry a quality of life and intention within them, who learn to understand themselves and others better and better and try to put what they have learned into practice with joy, humility and love. (And a big pinch of humor and confidence! ;) )

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The rigid adherence to the doctrine of threat and thus the creation of enemy images and undefined fears is one of the strongest brakes on the development of our consciousness.

Many of us are conditioned and trained to immediately classify the unknown & the different and different-thinking being as a threat.

It is precisely this attitude that creates more of these threats = self-fulfilling prophecy. We create our reality ourselves!
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What we know so far is that we have been noticing the phenomena for many decades, especially with the latest weapon systems (which monitor them very well), that the UAP can easily bypass or switch them off and that in the vast majority of cases no hostile intent can be recognized.

The message is clear: “We” are watching you and your dangerous activities.
And it is an impressive demonstration of far higher abilities to deal with reality and energy that we previously thought were impossible.

This seems more like the behavior of very wise, forward-looking parents/ friends who give the children/ humanity a lot of freedom to learn. And gently points us in the right direction.

It is likely that many other (obviously non-threatening) activities have occurred that are undetected by us.


The human collective consciousness is on the verge of, and is thus actively invited to,
to enter the next stage of development to realize what we are truly capable of and why many have found themselves in this reality.
 

Frosty Nuggets

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If they wanted to enslave or destroy us they would have done so already, the reason they are not making contact with us is that the psychopaths are in control here, they orbit the Earth to show their children why they kill psychopaths, so their culture doesn't end up like us or worse given their advanced technology.
 

Ca++

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If they wanted to enslave or destroy us they would have done so already, the reason they are not making contact with us is that the psychopaths are in control here, they orbit the Earth to show their children why they kill psychopaths, so their culture doesn't end up like us or worse given their advanced technology.
Isn't that psychopathic behaviour? Just killing people who are not like you. Where is the compassion. The master race gene pool was created mostly through sterilisation. Cutting peoples nuts off, is easier to justify, in an ethical debate. The burdens to society, who we will look after, but don't expect them to make any more.

It's a fair trade, that we in the UK should be offering. For a long time the trash were turning their free housing, into baby production lines. Pregnant at 16 gets you the house. Then you are child minding for about 4 years, before the threat of work needed another baby. And on it went. The worst in society, having the most kids. Bringing them up with the shining example of how to live on family credits. There are generations of them now. Our dole outs know no end. You can spend your whole life from school to retirement, claiming free money, because you can't find a job in 50 years.

We wonder why migrants want to come here? For many, it's to never have to work again. We don't need to build a wall, we just need to correct this insane free money system. It's too appealing.

I don't think the aliens can of cottoned on yet.
 

big315smooth

mama tried
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ya they said when the ship hit it was cloaked looked fuzzy something was lurking behind that fence. read something similar small town ohio multiple sighting of lights and a hunter in that same area sitting evening watch seen what he described as pixilated saran wrap going from tree to tree. strange i thought
 

big315smooth

mama tried
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best vid on crop circle in real time

earliest know anything on crop circles they called them mowing devils cause no man could make them. hoaxer circle vs the real thing is and easy eye this from late 1600s
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igrowone

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here's where I push in some paranormal perspectives on the Vegas incident
the teenage son has reported some subsequent activities that would be viewed as supernatural years back
he claims a cross was seen floating in the air in the house
also a bible was seen floating with its pages being turned
this will turn off many a UFO follower, they see aliens and technology
I don't have any insights other than it's being reported by observers whose credibility was seen as good by the law officers
dismiss it all because it's too bizarre?
I don't, they've had some unexplained events but I don't feel they're made up
 

big315smooth

mama tried
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here's where I push in some paranormal perspectives on the Vegas incident
the teenage son has reported some subsequent activities that would be viewed as supernatural years back
he claims a cross was seen floating in the air in the house
also a bible was seen floating with its pages being turned
this will turn off many a UFO follower, they see aliens and technology
I don't have any insights other than it's being reported by observers whose credibility was seen as good by the law officers
dismiss it all because it's too bizarre?
I don't, they've had some unexplained events but I don't feel they're made up
i believe him got body cam footage of light streaking across the sky then a ring doorbell big up the sound of a huge thud hitting the ground then the 911 call not to mention blacked out vehicles lurking the property days after. ya that bible cross thing was weird
 

big315smooth

mama tried
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that legaurdia vid was good one fast. heres pic from ohare airport 2006 with atc recordings and in the end its just shot up into space they said it was a weather event hahah no
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shitty pic camera on cells were trash then
 

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