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Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

  • yes, gimme

    Votes: 29 31.9%
  • not yet

    Votes: 15 16.5%
  • no way

    Votes: 47 51.6%

  • Total voters
    91
  • Poll closed .

Gry

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Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices will be meet again on Friday, it is expected the pause on the J&J product will be lifted with an advisory being issued not to use heparin should there be any issue with clotting. I had been mistaken with respect to the number of adverse reactions involved with the J&J pause. It involved 6 individuals, all female, between the ages of 18 and 48.
 

CaptainDankness

Well-known member
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices will be meet again on Friday, it is expected the pause on the J&J product will be lifted with an advisory being issued not to use heparin should there be any issue with clotting. I had been mistaken with respect to the number of adverse reactions involved with the J&J pause. It involved 6 individuals, all female, between the ages of 18 and 48.

So that's 2 women dead that were not even at risk of dieing from Covid-19.... Yeah, I think I'll pass, my wife's in that age group too and won't die from covid-19 if she gets it.

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armedoldhippy

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Veteran
Yeah, I have to say I don't trust Trump myself. The Vaccine was made under Trump, no matter how much Joe tries to play the savior. Sure a year or two down the road with no long term effects I'll consider the shot. Not like I need the vaccine passport to drive and I'd rather drive to Florida than buy 3 round trip tickets just to rent a car, but I'm 1/16th Jewish. :biggrin:

the first vaccine was made before The Chump even announced "warp speed". he steals enough credit from others, he does not need your help to pile more on him that he does not have coming. Chump jumped out in front of a parade & started twirling his baton like he was leading it...
 

gaiusmarius

me
Veteran
the first vaccine was made before The Chump even announced "warp speed". he steals enough credit from others, he does not need your help to pile more on him that he does not have coming. Chump jumped out in front of a parade & started twirling his baton like he was leading it...

was surprised by that video, if that was here, a good 70% would have put their hand up and fully 50% seem to be actually getting it not just saying yes out of embarrassment, thats expected to go up as the age group get younger
 

trichrider

Kiss My Ring
Veteran
What The CDC's VAERS Database Reveals About "Adverse" Post-Vaccine Reactions
Sunday, Apr 18, 2021 - 10:50 PM

Authored by Megan Redshaw via ChildrensHealthDefense.org,
Data released today by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on the number of injuries and deaths reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) following COVID vaccines revealed reports of blood clots and other related blood disorders associated with all three vaccines approved for Emergency Use Authorization in the U.S. — Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson (J&J). So far, only the J&J vaccine has been paused because of blood clot concerns.


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VAERS is the primary mechanism for reporting adverse vaccine reactions in the U.S. Reports submitted to VAERS require further investigation before a causal relationship can be confirmed.

Every Friday, VAERS makes public all vaccine injury reports received through a specified date, usually about a week prior to the release date. Today’s data show that between Dec. 14, 2020 and April 8, a total of 68,347 total adverse events were reported to VAERS, including 2,602 deaths — an increase of 260 over the previous week — and 8,285 serious injuries, up 314 since last week.


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Of the 2,602 deaths reported as of April 8, 27% occurred within 48 hours of vaccination, 19% occurred within 24 hours and 41% occurred in people who became ill within 48 hours of being vaccinated.

In the U.S., 174.9 million COVID vaccine doses had been administered as of April 8. This includes 79.6 million doses of Moderna’s vaccine, 90.3 million doses of Pfizer and 4.9 million doses of the J&J COVID vaccine.

This week’s VAERS data show:
Reports of blood clotting disorders in VAERS

Children’s Health Defense queried the VAERS data for a series of adverse events associated with the formation of clotting disorders and other related conditions. VAERS yielded a total of 795 reports for all three vaccines from Dec. 14, 2020, through April 8.
Of the 795 cases reported, there were 400 reports attributed to Pfizer, 337 reports with Moderna and 56 reports with J&J — far more than the eight J&J cases under investigation, including the two additional cases added Wednesday.
As The Defender reported today, although the J&J and AstraZeneca COVID vaccines have been under the microscope for their potential to cause blood clots, mounting evidence suggests the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines also cause clots and related blood disorders. U.S. regulatory officials were alerted to the problem as far back as December 2020.
CDC ignores The Defender, no response after 39 days


According to the CDC’s website, “the CDC follows up on any report of death to request additional information and learn more about what occurred and to determine whether the death was a result of the vaccine or unrelated.”
On March 8, The Defender contacted the CDC with a written list of questions about reported deaths and injuries related to COVID vaccines. We requested information about how the CDC conducts investigations into reported deaths, the status of ongoing investigations reported in the media, if autopsies are being done, the standard for determining whether an injury is causally connected to a vaccine, and education initiatives to encourage and facilitate proper and accurate reporting.
After many attempts to get a response from the CDC, 22 days after our initial outreach a representative from the CDC’s Vaccine Task Force responded, saying the agency had never received our questions — even though the employees we talked to several times said their press officers were working through the questions we sent.
We provided the questions again and set a new deadline of April 7. We’ve reached out multiple times since, but the representative has not answered our emails or returned our calls.
On April 15 we called the CDC’s general media line again and were told they had our list of questions and were unsure why the representative told us she never received them. We were told the COVID response team would be informed and that we should follow up in a few days.
It has been 39 days since we first reached out and have yet to receive answers to our questions.

Johnson & Johnson paused over reports of blood clot

On April 15, The Defender reported that a healthy 43-year old man in Mississippi suffered a stroke hours after being vaccinated with J&J’s COVID vaccine. Brad Malagarie, father of seven, had received the vaccine a little after Noon and was found unresponsive by co-workers at his desk.
Also on April 15, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported that the Ohio Department of Health is monitoring the investigation into what may have caused a 21-year-old University of Cincinnati student to die suddenly last Sunday, about a day after he received the J&J vaccine.
Alicia Shoults, a spokeswoman for the state health department, said the agency is waiting for the completion of a Hamilton County coroner’s report, and “if necessary,” further guidance from the CDC.
The two news stories came just days after federal health officials paused the J&J vaccine.

As The Defender reported April 13, the CDC and U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) called for a temporary but immediate halt to the use of J&J’s COVID vaccine while the agencies investigated the vaccine’s possible link to potentially dangerous blood clots.
In a joint statement, the agencies said the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) was reviewing clinical data gathered on six women, one who died, between the ages of 18 and 48 years who developed blood clots after receiving the single-dose J&J vaccine.
On April 14, the ACIP held an emergency meeting to vote on whether to lift the pause on J&J’s vaccine or change recommendations for its use. As The Defender reported, the ACIP postponed the vote, extending the pause pending further analysis of data relating to blood clots. The ACIP said it would reconvene for a vote in one week to 10 days.
That same day, J&J revealed two more cases of blood clots — one that occurred in a 25-year-old man who suffered a cerebral hemorrhage during a clinical trial and another case of deep-vein-thrombosis in a 59-year-old woman.
In its review of J&J’s submission for Emergency Use Authorization in February, the FDA initially urged further surveillance of a slight “numerical imbalance” in blood clotting events after receiving the shot. At the time, it was concluded there was “insufficient” data to determine “a causal relationship” with the vaccine and the drugmaker resumed the trial.
As The Defender reported April 12, the rollout of J&J’s COVID vaccine has not been smooth. At the beginning of the month the vaccine maker had to throw out 15 million doses of its vaccine after they were contaminated with AstraZeneca vaccine ingredients at an unapproved manufacturing plant in Baltimore.
The vaccine maker also has been plagued with shutdowns of its vaccine sites prior to the vaccine being paused, multiple reports of COVID breakthrough cases and criticism over its CEO’s $30 million pay package while the company pays out billions for its role in the opioid epidemic.

CDC, multiple states report ‘breakthrough’ COVID cases among fully vaccinated

Cases of fully vaccinated people getting COVID, referred to as “breakthrough” cases, continue to make news.
Calling it a “really good scenario,” the CDC yesterday reported 5,800 cases of COVID in fully vaccinated people. Of the 5,800 cases, 396 required hospitalization and 74 people died, the CDC said.
The CDC said it was “keeping a close eye” on the cases, but that breakthrough cases are to be expected. Tara Smith, a professor of epidemiology at the Kent State University College of Public Health in Ohio, told NBC News:
“This is a really good scenario, even with almost 6,000 breakthrough infections. Most of those have been mildly symptomatic or asymptomatic. That’s exactly what we were hoping for.”
On April 12, the Houston Health Department reported 142 breakthrough cases of COVID that occurred in fully vaccinated people since January, according to ABC 13 News. Vaccine recipients received either two doses of Moderna or Pfizer, or one dose of J&J. The report ruled out those who were said to have contracted the virus 45 days before their second scheduled shot date.

Houston Health Department said there were 2.46 positive cases out of every 10,000 fully-vaccinated people and it was unclear if those who tested positive contracted the original strand of COVID or a newer variant.

Last month, The Defender reported on breakthrough cases in Washington, Florida, South Carolina, Texas, New York, California and Minnesota. On April 6, The Defender reported on 246 breakthrough cases in Michigan, which included three people who died.
Children’s Health Defense asks anyone who has experienced an adverse reaction, to any vaccine, to file a report following these three steps.
 

buzzmobile

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Veteran
“I have had flu symptoms for the last 10 days. I thought I was dying. Just a clusterfuck. I was tested positive today. I got the Chinese shit. I’ve got a stuffed up head, body aches. My God, what a pain in the ass. I literally could hardly crawl out of bed the last few days.”

Get well, Ted. It's for real.
 

imiubu

Well-known member
Dang buzzmobile I hope you get to feeling yourself (see what I did there :D ) again very soon.

I have been feeling a lil punkish but I have seasonal allergies that flare when doing outdoors work...
and tis that season, sigh.

:huggg: Heal quickly brother.
 

buzzmobile

Well-known member
Veteran
I did not realize Ted is your brother. Tell him I hope it is just cat scratch fever.
:D
Consider using a neti pot during allergy season.
 

Gry

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Veteran
So that's 2 women dead that were not even at risk of dieing from Covid-19.... Yeah, I think I'll pass, my wife's in that age group too and won't die from covid-19 if she gets it.

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The easiest guy in the world to lie to, is the man in the mirror.
I would urge you to find someone that you trust to speak with about your decision.
 

CaptainDankness

Well-known member
The easiest guy in the world to lie to, is the man in the mirror.
I would urge you to find someone that you trust to speak with about your decision.

I've talked to lots of people about it, I only know a few people that are actually going to get the vaccine, majority will not.

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Gry

Well-known member
Veteran
I've talked to lots of people about it, I only know a few people that are actually going to get the vaccine, majority will not.

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This would be one of the times in life when it pays to go with fewer numbers of better informed people.
 

armedoldhippy

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Veteran
supervisor at work finally has fever break. anti-viral & pneumonia meds finally got her under 100 deg F (after 13 days over). she was looking at intubation & pumped oxygen if it had not worked.
 

buzzmobile

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weedobix

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ICMag Donor
Veteran
If my doctor tells me to take it, i will ask him if he took it and if he says yes i will go ahead and take it.

the problem with that is your average gp doesnt have a clue about these vaccines plus they get paid per shot given where i am.
 

mowood3479

Active member
Veteran
People can trust their doctors if they want to....

In the 2000s they would’ve prescribed you 3 OxyContin 80s per day for back pain....
in the 50s they were giving housewives Dexedrine (speed) for depression
from the 90s on they’ve been giving every energetic kid Ritalin (methamphetamine)
and since sometime in the 90s if you have anxiety take some Benzodiazepines
y’all ever tried to kick a long term Xanax habit?

guess what? all these drugs they push as safe, and not harmful are anything but safe and not harmful

fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
 

imiubu

Well-known member
I did not realize Ted is your brother. Tell him I hope it is just cat scratch fever.
:D
Consider using a neti pot during allergy season.

Doh! Man, I talk about "reading comprehension" and then totally missed those quote marks.
Bad imi, baaaaaaaaaaaaad! :spank:

Round these parts, we once referred to him as "Uncle Ted" but that was before he became an overly vociferous,
self righteous dick head.

Regardless of one member stating that I some how "take comfort" in other's suffering (which is untrue), I am glad that
the once cool rock n roller from my home state (I mean really... Journey's and Migrations was brilliant), has recovered from the flu.
 

Gry

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Veteran
People can trust their doctors if they want to....

In the 2000s they would’ve prescribed you 3 OxyContin 80s per day for back pain....
in the 50s they were giving housewives Dexedrine (speed) for depression
from the 90s on they’ve been giving every energetic kid Ritalin (methamphetamine)
and since sometime in the 90s if you have anxiety take some Benzodiazepines
y’all ever tried to kick a long term Xanax habit?

guess what? all these drugs they push as safe, and not harmful are anything but safe and not harmful

fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
Heard md's express similar, they had an interesting means of dealing with it when they needed treatment.
How do you deal with the issue when you need medical care ?
 

buzzmobile

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I am glad that
the once cool rock n roller from my home state (I mean really... Journey's and Migrations was brilliant), has recovered from the flu.

Ummmm...about that 'reading comprehension' thing

I have had flu symptoms for the last 10 days. I thought I was dying. Just a clusterfuck. I was tested positive today. I got the Chinese shit. I’ve got a stuffed up head, body aches. My God, what a pain in the ass. I literally could hardly crawl out of bed the last few days.”

Uncle Ted has/d COVID, and he became a believer. Irony at work here. I am glad he did not die.
 

imiubu

Well-known member
None of that escaped me (the second time around :D ).
So... to elaborate further (I didn't think I needed to, sigh)...
I am glad Tedly recovered from the *wu flu (he did say he had the "chinese shit").
 

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