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Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

  • yes, gimme

    Votes: 29 31.9%
  • not yet

    Votes: 15 16.5%
  • no way

    Votes: 47 51.6%

  • Total voters
    91
  • Poll closed .

Chi13

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ICMag Donor
No because my common sense is intact and I see that what society has been force fed over the past few years has been utter nonsense for the most part, used for power grabbing and financial gain.

Does the list of things deemed as conspiracy theories turned to actual facts over the past couple of years at least not raise questions for you? Do you agree with the segregation that has happened as a result? Even the fact that unvaccinated people are still alive at this point should be enough to make people take a step back, no?
What conspiracy theories turned to fact? I can't think of one?

As for unvaccinated being alive, what are you on about? Hard to take you lot seriously.
 

Chi13

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ICMag Donor
Do y'all believe the British Heart Foundation, or are they also part of the conspiracy? lol

Is the coronavirus vaccine safe?​

Yes, it's very safe.

Vaccines are only approved for use after being thoroughly tested on tens of thousands of people. On top of that, over 50 million people in the UK have now had a Covid-19 vaccine, the overwhelming majority without serious reactions.

Experts at the MHRA looked carefully at all evidence about the vaccine to make sure that it met strict standards of safety, quality and effectiveness. All of the approved vaccines are shown to be safe.

There have been a very small number of reports of allergic reactions to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine. For the vast majority of people, there is no need to worry about these reports. The number of serious allergic reactions has been extremely small. Any serious reactions to the vaccine have been carefully recorded, and we can see from this data that the chance of an allergic reaction is much lower after a booster dose, compared to the first dose.

The only people with allergies who should not get the vaccine are those with a history of serious reaction to the vaccine ingredients. You can have the vaccine even if you have a history of anaphylactic shock to other things - just let the person who is giving you the vaccine know beforehand.

Is the vaccine safe for people with heart conditions?​

Yes, the vaccine is safe for people with heart and circulatory conditions. No vaccine is approved unless it is considered safe for people with long-term conditions, including heart and circulatory conditions, and including older people.

How effective is the Pfizer vaccine, and how long does it last?​



The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine has proven to be very effective at preventing serious illness, hospitalisation, and death from Covid-19. This is based both on clinical trials and real-world data after over 25 million people have received this vaccine in the UK.

According to UKHSA data, two doses of Pfizer offers 60 to 75% protection against mild illness from Omicron, but this drops down to 10% after 25 weeks. A booster dose of Pfizer or Moderna is very effective at topping-up protection against Omicron. Data shows that two to four weeks after a booster dose, protection against mild illness rises to 75%.

We know that boosters offer even greater protection against serious illness and hospitalisation from Covid-19, which is why it’s important to have a booster when you are offered it.


How effective is the Moderna vaccine, and how long does it last?​


The Moderna vaccine is very effective at preventing serious illness and death from Covid-19. This is based both on clinical trials and real-world data after over 1.5 million people who have received this vaccine in the UK, up until 9 March 2022.

According to UKHSA data, two doses of Moderna offers 65 to 75% protection against symptoms and illness from Omicron, but this drops down to 10% after 25 weeks.

A booster dose of Moderna or Pfizer is very effective at topping-up protection against Omicron. Data shows that two to four weeks after a booster dose, protection against mild illness rises to 75%.

We know that boosters offer even greater protection against serious illness and hospitalisation from Covid-19, which is why it’s important to have a booster when you are offered it.

 

Bmac1

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Veteran
What conspiracy theories turned to fact? I can't think of one?

As for unvaccinated being alive, what are you on about? Hard to take you lot seriously.
If you get vaccinated you won't get covid?

If you're vaccinated and catch covid, you won't pass it on to grandma.

If you're vaccinated and get covid you won't end up in hospital?

If you're vaccinated, get covid and end up in hospital, you won't die.
 

armedoldhippy

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Veteran
If you get vaccinated you won't get covid?

If you're vaccinated and catch covid, you won't pass it on to grandma.

If you're vaccinated and get covid you won't end up in hospital?

If you're vaccinated, get covid and end up in hospital, you won't die.
i'd like to sit in on a poker game with you. you don't have a clue how odds & probabilities work. i could use whatever $$$ you have...:smoke:
 

Chi13

Well-known member
ICMag Donor
If you get vaccinated you won't get covid?

If you're vaccinated and catch covid, you won't pass it on to grandma.

If you're vaccinated and get covid you won't end up in hospital?

If you're vaccinated, get covid and end up in hospital, you won't die.
Wrong on all counts. No one ever talked in absolutes, ever. Were you paying any attention to the health messages?

Vaccines reduce the chance of getting covid. They don't completely eliminate your chances of getting covid.

If you don't get covid you won't pass it on to grandma. Simple.

If you are vaccinated and get covid, your chances of ending up in hospital are reduced.

If you do end up in hospital your chances of dying are reduced.

All this still remains true.
 

Volcanna

Active member
Veteran
lol.
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Chi13

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ICMag Donor
Still was a complete lie.
What was a complete lie?

Governments advised people to get vaccinated. None of the advice ever said the vaccine was 100% effective; only that it reduced the likelihood of transmission, severity, and death. Omicron certainly reduced the effectiveness of the original vaccine, but it did not make vaccines useless. Far from it.

Just booked another booster. Last one I had was January. I still have not caught Covid, and only one family member has (the one who didn't get the booster).
 

Chi13

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ICMag Donor
It was referring to a phase 3 trial of 12-15 year olds, where in the trial it was 100% effective for those people in that age group. Nice try. Again, it would help if you would provide actual links.

The phase III trial included 2260 children in the US. A total of 18 cases of covid-19 were observed in the placebo group (n=1129), while none was reported in the vaccinated group (n=1131). The vaccine also elicited robust antibody responses and was well tolerated, with side effects consistent with those observed in participants aged 16 to 25.
 

Volcanna

Active member
Veteran
It was referring to a phase 3 trial of 12-15 year olds, where in the trial it was 100% effective for those people in that age group. Nice try. Again, it would help if you would provide actual links.

The phase III trial included 2260 children in the US. A total of 18 cases of covid-19 were observed in the placebo group (n=1129), while none was reported in the vaccinated group (n=1131). The vaccine also elicited robust antibody responses and was well tolerated, with side effects consistent with those observed in participants aged 16 to 25.
Still they are saying something 100% false. Lol.
 

Volcanna

Active member
Veteran
What was a complete lie?

Governments advised people to get vaccinated. None of the advice ever said the vaccine was 100% effective; only that it reduced the likelihood of transmission, severity, and death. Omicron certainly reduced the effectiveness of the original vaccine, but it did not make vaccines useless. Far from it.

Just booked another booster. Last one I had was January. I still have not caught Covid, and only one family member has (the one who didn't get the booster).
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Hempy McNoodle

Well-known member
It was referring to a phase 3 trial of 12-15 year olds, where in the trial it was 100% effective for those people in that age group. Nice try. Again, it would help if you would provide actual links.

The phase III trial included 2260 children in the US. A total of 18 cases of covid-19 were observed in the placebo group (n=1129), while none was reported in the vaccinated group (n=1131). The vaccine also elicited robust antibody responses and was well tolerated, with side effects consistent with those observed in participants aged 16 to 25.
Have you ever admitted that you were wrong?
 

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