Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

[BudToaster]

from a substack from a tweet reference:
from a substack about excess cancer deaths in MA, from a reference in a tweet:

substack about excess cancer deaths

It seems to me that scientists are programmed to follow a slow method to analyze the heck out of the cause of the fire while the house is burning around them. The engineer already got everyone out of the house in five different ways and preserved the maximum possible chattel from the house. Scientists I know will not be pleased that I put this in print. ;-) However, it is a generality that is true far more often than not.

i am grateful to be an engineer.

 

[Volcanna]

Sounds like this will be pretty costly for the taxpayers.

 

[audiohi]

Sounds like this will be pretty costly for the taxpayers. View attachment 18773875

Except for the fact that in New York, the Supreme Court isn't the top court.

We'll see what the court of appeals says.

Either way, 16 employees isn't very costly.


Just for reference

NYC Has Paid More Than $67 Million So Far This Year to Settle Police Misconduct Suits
This year's amount so far is over $5.5 million more than the city paid out for all of 2020 and, if settlement payments continue apace for the remainder of 2022, may surpass last year’s total of $87.5 million.

 

[St. Phatty]

There is no Public Science in the US or UK, only political correctness.

They empty a school and call out a Hazmat team for a few micrograms of Uranium that are NOT airborne or in any form that can harm anybody.

School Evacuated After Student Brings Antique Dinner Plate

"No injuries were reported."

reason.com

Then tell people "everything's OK" when 12 tons of Uranium - and hundreds of tons of radioactive Graphite - go airborne in smoke form.

Windscale fire - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The response to Covid19 was just as upside down as the management of anything Nuclear in the US & UK.

Maybe they were both managed by the same group of people ?

 

[Volcanna]

 

[flylowgethigh]

Hell no, the vax Proponents need to see the inside of courtrooms, jail cells, and bankruptcy.

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Hell no, the vax Proponents need to see the inside of courtrooms, jail cells, and bankruptcy.

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

If they were "in the dark" then they should be calling for justice under the law for those who kept them in the dark. But, it was The Atlantic who cast their shadows over We the People. Complicit. Knowingly.

Dark to Light.

 

[Volcanna]

Even the journalists….

 

[Capt.Ahab]

 

[mexcurandero420]

New Swiss Study: Covid Shots Increase Risk of Myocarditis by 800 TIMES in Young Adults

The risk of myocarditis is 800 times higher for vaccinated than unvaccinated young adults, according to a recent Swiss study that is now gaining traction in the press. The results were based on the presentation by Prof. Christian Mueller (Basel, Switzerland) at the European Society of Cardiology...

beckernews.com

 

[Chi13]

Published: August 22, 2022

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COVID-19 infection poses higher risk for myocarditis than vaccines​

By American Heart Association News

(Drazen Zigic/iStock via Getty Images)
The overall risk of myocarditis – inflammation of the heart muscle – is substantially higher immediately after being infected with COVID-19 than it is in the weeks following vaccination for the coronavirus, a large new study in England shows.
The detailed analysis of nearly 43 million people was published Monday in the American Heart Association journal Circulation.
"We found that across this large dataset, the entire COVID-19-vaccinated population of England during an important 12-month period of the pandemic when the COVID-19 vaccines first became available, the risk of myocarditis following COVID-19 vaccination was quite small compared to the risk of myocarditis after COVID-19 infection," the study's lead author, Martina Patone, said in a news release. She is a statistician at the University of Oxford Nuffield Department of Primary Health Care Sciences in England.
"This analysis provides important information that may help guide public health vaccine campaigns, particularly since COVID-19 vaccination has expanded in many parts of the world to include children as young as 6 months old," Patone said.
Myocarditis is the inflammation of the middle layer of the heart muscle wall, known as the myocardium. It is uncommon and typically triggered by a viral infection. Myocarditis can weaken the heart muscle as well as the electrical system that keeps the heart pumping normally. The condition may resolve on its own or with treatment, or it may lead to lasting heart damage.
Previous research from around the world, including reports from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, has shown a potential increased risk of myocarditis after receiving an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine.
In the new study, researchers analyzed records from England's National Immunization database for nearly 43 million people 13 or older who had received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine between Dec. 1, 2020 and Dec. 15, 2021. More than 21 million had received three doses of the vaccine – the initial two-shot regimen plus a booster. Nearly 6 million tested positive for COVID-19 either before or after receiving a vaccine. During the one-year study period, 2,861 people – or 0.007% – were hospitalized or died with myocarditis.
The analysis showed people infected with COVID-19 before receiving a vaccine were 11 times more at risk for developing myocarditis within 28 days of testing positive for the virus. But that risk was cut in half if a person was infected after receiving at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.
The risk for myocarditis increased after receiving the first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine, and after a first, second and booster dose of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine. But the risk of myocarditis associated with the vaccine was lower than the risk associated with COVID-19 infection before or after vaccination – with one exception. Men under 40 who received a second dose of the Moderna vaccine had a higher risk of myocarditis following vaccination. The Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines are available in the U.S.
"It is important for the public to understand that myocarditis is rare, and the risk of developing myocarditis after a COVID-19 vaccine is also rare," co-author Nicholas Mills said in the release. Mills is a professor and the Butler British Heart Foundation Chair of Cardiology at the University of Edinburgh in Scotland. "This risk should be balanced against the benefits of the COVID-19 vaccines in preventing severe COVID-19 infection. It is also crucial to understand who is at a higher risk for myocarditis and which vaccine type is associated with increased myocarditis risk."
For example, women 40 and older receiving a first or third dose of the Pfizer vaccine had a respective three and two extra cases of myocarditis per 1 million women vaccinated. But there were an estimated 51 extra cases of myocarditis associated with COVID-19 infection before vaccination.
Among men under 40, there were an estimated four extra cases of myocarditis associated with the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine and 14 extra cases with the first dose of the Moderna vaccine for every 1 million men vaccinated. That risk rose with the second dose for all three vaccines studied and was highest for Moderna's, which had an additional 97 myocarditis cases per 1 million. For unvaccinated men under 40 with COVID-19, there were 16 additional myocarditis cases per million.
"These findings are valuable to help inform recommendations on the type of COVID-19 vaccines available for younger people and may also help shape public health policy and strategy for COVID-19 vaccine boosters," study co-author Julia Hippisley-Cox said in the release. She is a professor of clinical epidemiology and general practice at the University of Oxford.
"The SARS-CoV-2 virus continues to shift, and more contagious variants arise," she said. "Our hope is that this data may enable a more well-informed discussion on the risk of vaccine-associated myocarditis when considered in contrast to the net benefits of COVID-19 vaccination."
If you have questions or comments about this American Heart Association News story, please email [email protected].

COVID-19 infection poses higher risk for myocarditis than vaccines

The overall risk of myocarditis was higher immediately after being infected with COVID-19 than in the weeks after vaccination for the coronavirus, new research shows.

www.heart.org

 

[Bmac1]

"The financial ties between large pharmaceutical companies and the AHA are numerous and very remunerative for the AHA, including huge donations from Abbott, Bayer, Boehringer Ingelheim, Bristol-Myers Squibb (BMS), Eli Lilly, Merck and Pfizer."

The American Heart Association -- Protecting Industry Not Patients

The American Heart Association (AHA) and the American College of Cardiology (ACC) recently released new cardiovascular disease prevention guidelines. They are an egregious example of much that is wrong with medicine today.

www.huffpost.com

Shocking to see such a favorable vaccine study from an organization that takes huge donations from the company making the vaccines.

 

[Chi13]

"The financial ties between large pharmaceutical companies and the AHA are numerous and very remunerative for the AHA, including huge donations from Abbott, Bayer, Boehringer Ingelheim, Bristol-Myers Squibb (BMS), Eli Lilly, Merck and Pfizer."

The American Heart Association -- Protecting Industry Not Patients

The American Heart Association (AHA) and the American College of Cardiology (ACC) recently released new cardiovascular disease prevention guidelines. They are an egregious example of much that is wrong with medicine today.

www.huffpost.com

Shocking to see such a favorable vaccine study from an organization that takes huge donations from the company making the vaccines.

Interesting you don't apply the same logic to some of the anti vax nonsense being posted by others; zerohenge, gateway pundit e.t.c.

 

[Bmac1]

No because my common sense is intact and I see that what society has been force fed over the past few years has been utter nonsense for the most part, used for power grabbing and financial gain.

Does the list of things deemed as conspiracy theories turned to actual facts over the past couple of years at least not raise questions for you? Do you agree with the segregation that has happened as a result? Even the fact that unvaccinated people are still alive at this point should be enough to make people take a step back, no?

 

[armedoldhippy]

Even the fact that unvaccinated people are still alive at this point should be enough to make people take a step back, no?

no, LOL! if all of the unvaccinated died, we would not be having this conversation. well, YOU wouldn't be, probably. simply because not every person that was not vaccinated did not die has no bearing on whether or not being vaccinated was a good idea. that's like saying "well, i've been in 3 car wrecks with no seat belt, and i survived. why do you wear yours ?" even if EVERYONE caught it, it would still be smart because being fully vaxxed reduces the greater risks of a bad case and of long covid. studies do get wildly varying % rates though, ranging from 15% up to 80%.

 

[h.h.]

This shits getting old. Still butthurt over a shot that they were too chicken to take. You all had your reasons while the rest of the world manned up. Still trying to excuse yourselves.

 

[mexcurandero420]

Age-stratified infection fatality rate of COVID-19 in the non-elderly informed from pre-vaccination national seroprevalence studies

The infection fatality rate (IFR) of COVID-19 among non-elderly people in the absence of vaccination or prior infection is important to estimate accurately, since 94% of the global population is younger than 70 years and 86% is younger than 60 years. In systematic searches in SeroTracker and...

www.medrxiv.org

The median IFR was 0.0003% at 0-19 years, 0.003% at 20-29 years, 0.011% at 30-39 years, 0.035% at 40-49 years, 0.129% at 50-59 years, and 0.501% at 60-69 years.

 

[buzzmobile]

The median IFR was 0.0003% at 0-19 years, 0.003% at 20-29 years, 0.011% at 30-39 years, 0.035% at 40-49 years, 0.129% at 50-59 years, and 0.501% at 60-69 years.

 

[flylowgethigh]

I didn’t let them jab me, and I expect to see 70 in 25+ months. No time for park benches, but a chair by the pond while fishing, good buzz going, is just fine with me.

 

[Volcanna]

39 and 36 people?? Lolol That counts?