Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

[h.h.]

I've got a B.S. in Systems Engineering. Over 4 years I took and passed 8 semesters of Engineering school calculus - Calculus, Differential Equations, and Dynamic Systems, a class I was forced to take Senior year that was half-full of students getting Masters degrees in Applied Mathmatics (which was absolute hell). I didn't go to Harvard but I was accepted to Cornell and RPI....ended up going somewhere cheaper.

Don't fall for the trap of thinking only highly credentialed experts can understand science - this is what kept Europe in the dark ages for over 1,000 years as the Vatican locked up science information in a vault. Things are different today - you can pull up any scientific journal and read it yourself in minutes. Just read the abstract, it's only a paragraph.

FWIW I think the mRNA shots are a good choice for people at very high risk of Covid, but the USA is the only country in the world foisting them on children under 18. And the CDC and government are massively lying by telling everyone there has not been a single case of damage from the vacccines (Walensky). You know you're being lied to - don't need a fancy college degree to see that.

The FDA's current position on cannabis is that it has no medical value whatsoever, despite 10,000+ published studies showing efficacy. Same with Congress, the DEA. The NIH has come around to recognize its medical value, props to them. These federal agencies are just little pet bitches for the Pharma corporations.

It shows highly educated engineers can be wrong about science and medicine.

 

[944s2]

Had both jabs,,
missus had covid patients around 4 months before lockdown and two weeks ago I tested positive x2 and the new variant put me on my arse for nearly two weeks,,,
lost taste and felt diabolical and I walk 3km a day in all weathers and still not 100% but it hits your energy hard,,, I was sleeping after taking the dog out in the afternoon and I rarely sleep during the day and I’m not talking a ten minute nap but a proper deep sleep,,,,

 

[mexcurandero420]

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869152200206X

 

[Pwyllpomone]

Not a single jab. Got covid in march 2020, never again even though i was working with lot and lot of different people everyday.
Jab is useless for a healthy young man.
Despite that, my fragile 65yo uncle had three jabs, got covid after and had only like little flu symptoms.

 

[mexcurandero420]

An embalmer takes out a large blood clot from a patient died after the COVID jab.

 

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[BudToaster]

and from Science mag: https://www.science.org/content/art...st-it-copies-itself-protects-against-covid-19

Arcturus Therapeutics of San Diego, which staged a placebo-controlled trial of its candidate in more than 17,000 participants in Vietnam, announced yesterday in a press release that the vaccine had 55% efficacy against symptomatic COVID-19 and provided 95% efficacy against severe illness and death. “It’s a huge accomplishment that for the first time a self-amplifying RNA vaccine has been shown to be safe and effective,” says Deborah Fuller, a vaccinologist at the University of Washington School of Medicine who is an adviser to HDT Bio, which has its own self-amplifying COVID-19 mRNA vaccine in human studies.

safe = the Vietnamese victims didn't die, yet.

how is this different from sars-cov-2 itself? yeah, i want an infinite spike generator in my cells - NOT!!!

 

[Microbeman]

Not a single jab. Got covid in march 2020, never again even though i was working with lot and lot of different people everyday.
Jab is useless for a healthy young man.
Despite that, my fragile 65yo uncle had three jabs, got covid after and had only like little flu symptoms.

Same here. Got it in 2020; bad experience but since then I've been around infected people and stayed clear.

 

[mexcurandero420]

Have People Been Given the Wrong Vaccine? ⋆ Brownstone Institute

Now we know more. If Pfizer and Moderna want to continue to sell these vaccines, we should demand that they conduct a proper randomized clinical trial that proves that the vaccines reduce mortality.

brownstone.org

 

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[Gry]

It was reprehensible the companies that hold the rights to the vaccines chose not to make the production
methods available to other companies so that there might be increased availability more rapidly.
A veritable tribute to Rockefeller medicine.

 

[flylowgethigh]

Then the poisons they put in would be known

 

[Volcanna]

It was reprehensible the companies that hold the rights to the vaccines chose not to make the production
methods available to other companies so that there might be increased availability more rapidly.
A veritable tribute to Rockefeller medicine.

That’s how you know it’s NOT about health.

 

[armedoldhippy]

Then the poisons they put in would be known

the contents of medicines on the market ARE known, to the FDA . do they share them with competitors? nope. that stuff gets tested every way you can imagine,. and a whole lot more that you obviously cannot. Gry referenced the "methods" they used, not the formulations...

 

[Gry]

That’s how you know it’s NOT about health.

It is how one knows it will always be about
profit first, with other concerns being
secondary.
The one thing which has always struck me
as overly generous with our resources is
how we finance the original R&D and hand
over the rights to it only to turn around and
pay absolutely ludicrous prices for it.

In it's infancy the industry required
that kind of a deal to be able to get going.
Those days have long past.
An industry that has grown enormously profitable
needs to cut a new deal with the partner that made
it's very existence possible.

 

[BudToaster]

the contents of medicines on the market ARE known, to the FDA . do they share them with competitors? nope. that stuff gets tested every way you can imagine,. and a whole lot more that you obviously cannot. Gry referenced the "methods" they used, not the formulations...

i want to believe, i want to believe, i want to believe ... but i KNOW it is not true. FDA does not test (got links?) they simply approve for advertising.

 

[Volcanna]

It is how one knows it will always be about
profit first, with other concerns being
secondary.
The one thing which has always struck me
as overly generous with our resources is
how we finance the original R&D and hand
over the rights to it only to turn around and
pay absolutely ludicrous prices for it.

In it's infancy the industry required
that kind of a deal to be able to get going.
Those days have long past.
An industry that has grown enormously profitable
needs to cut a new deal with the partner that made
it's very existence possible.

I agree the mark up was ruthless. But that $19 dose was the hookup. They normally would charge 175$ a dose.

 

[Volcanna]

Plus it’s easier just to tell armedoldhippie he is getting a 4th dose than try and get first doses to elderly around the world that need it.

 

[Volcanna]